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[UNDEAD 1]

THIS IS ALARMING!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060915/sc_nm/...ent_arctic_dc_1

[HarryCaray]

Did you know, when Ice melts in your cup the water level doesn't rise?

Infact, it gets lower. When water freezes it expands (taking up more space), so when it melts it'll contract.

This post has been edited by HarryCaray: 09/17/06 6:27pm

[SKTemplarRD]

Did you know, when Ice melts in your cup the water level doesn't rise?

Infact, it gets lower. When water freezes it expands (taking up more space), so when it melts it'll contract.

If I remember correctly the maximum volume for water is at 4 degrees to your point.

[Hellfighter]

It's scary....'our' governments have known about this for a few years but as usual don't give a crap - seemingly mindlessly wishing that lethargy will mystically change around the situation. Friend of mind who grew up on the east coast -canada, mentioned to me how cod fish in that area have drastically shrunken in size too probably part of the crazy phenomena going on around there.... I believe complete meltdown deadline of the entire Acrtic is 50-100 years from now.

This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 09/19/06 11:55am

[HammaTime]

The most alarming news just came out this summer which showed WINTER arctic ice shrinking - something that hasn't ever been seen before. ABC and a lot of other publications carried that story.

[-priority(+)target-]

Anyone see that Gore Documentary? Thinking about checking it out... suppose to be good.

[Pancakes]

Anyone see that Gore Documentary? Thinking about checking it out... suppose to be good.

Depends, I'm 15 and this movie lost my interest since global warming is the last of my concerns. The movie is informative so i would say go see it, you may learn something. It recieves 6.5 bottles of syrup out of 10 because it lacked what i go to movies for, explosions, action, and all that jazz. Like i said, its a movie based on educating, not really thrilling. I'll leave it up to you...

[Genocide Junkie]

I think I'll get facts from someone other than Al "I Invinted The Internet" Gore....... thanks anyway.....

Junkie

[HammaTime]

I think I'll get facts from someone other than Al "I Invinted The Internet" Gore....... thanks anyway.....

Junkie

That basic lie is as old, and false, as all the claims that there is no truth to the science behind climate change.

[Druid]

Not a lot different from what he actually said
"I took the initiative in creating the Internet."
Either way it was a stupid way to put it, when he's real claim to fame was he co-sponsered a bill.
It was just as stupid as the telephone tax we pay right not that was suppose to provide interent access to all schools. The "Gore Tax" as it's called by most opinions is unconstitutional as it bypasses congress who has the sole authority to tax. So Gore found a way to back door it in some FCC legislation forcing the tele-com companies to collect what amounts to forced contributions.
I've always liked that.
It's not a tax, it a "forced contribution"

[Bargod]

To branch into thermal dynamics, which I know absolutely nothing about, the fresh water coming from the melting glaciers will slow the Gulf Stream, cooling the Atlantic and causing the glaciers to grow again. It's a natural cycle. Sure, we may be speeding it up, but man cannot control nature. Nature will maintain an equalibrium.

[HammaTime]

Not a lot different from what he actually said
"I took the initiative in creating the Internet."
Either way it was a stupid way to put it, when he's real claim to fame was he co-sponsered a bill.
It was just as stupid as the telephone tax we pay right not that was suppose to provide interent access to all schools. The "Gore Tax" as it's called by most opinions is unconstitutional as it bypasses congress who has the sole authority to tax. So Gore found a way to back door it in some FCC legislation forcing the tele-com companies to collect what amounts to forced contributions.
I've always liked that.
It's not a tax, it a "forced contribution"

My point, and I admit it was a minor one, wasn't to address his claim, it was to address how his statement has been grossly manipulated over the years to the point now where people see the false quotation as truth.

The same can be certainly be said about claims of global climate change. The oil companies managed to counter the scientific evidence with false claims for so long, that now we still question reality.

The scientific evidence is clear and indisputable - climate change is ocurring at a dramatic rate. This is not a "natural" cycle unless you think of man's influence on climate as "natural." To state otherwise is to basically refute every reputable, peer-reviewed study that has dealt with the subject.

This post has been edited by HammaTime: 09/20/06 6:25am

[flatliner]

After a nice long day,

I am convinced that my swampy ass is melting something as well...

it gets so crazy.

[Druid]

I don't agree at all.
There has been just as much scientific evidence against the idea of global warming as their has been for.
One major difference is the media has grossly overplayed the whole global warming issue.
Climate change is a cyclic as the seasons.
The 1980 eruption of Mt. St. Helens put more green house gases into the atmosphere than man has since the industry revolution. It's nothing but hubris to think man can change something as huge and unmoving as the climate.
I also don't put much emphasis on peer review. Just because someone can find other like minded people, doesn't make him right, which is exactly all peer review really is. I could do a little research and find 100's of failed scientific hypostases that passed peer review but were later proved to be completely wrong.
The whole basis for global warming comes from dozens of conflicting computer models used to predict the future impact of an incredible variety of factors. I'm sorry but if the best computer model can't predict with any certainty if it will rain next week, I'm not going to buy into the fact it can predict global mean temperature a 100 years from now.

There have been several studies on the Mars Ice Caps melting.
I wonder if the environmentalist are going to claim it's because to many martians are driving SUV's

[Genocide Junkie]

If you look back say 10 yrs maybe a few more these same scientists were screaming that we are headed into the next ice age. It was all over Time magazine. Specials on 60 mins the whole nine yards. Given enough time and a few dollars thrown my way I can probably find some scientist to agree that the moon is in fact made of cheese. Which would be awesome as I LOVE CHEESE!!!! Either way I can't do squat about it. You can't do squat about it. So why should we care or argue about it?

Junkie