Do You Find This Sig Offensive?, Please let me know. Options

[Shred and Burn]

Here's my take.

I am not offended by the sig. And my opinion of Axel won't change no matter what he has as a sig.
I could give a rats ass. Even if it did offend me, I wouldn't give Axel crap for it.

Personally, I do not like the flag.
If my neighbor were to hang it outside in the evening, it would be gone in the morning.

But hey I'm a Yankee !!

However, I know that it is a symbol of pride for Southerners. And as you know, I have a lot of cool buds in this clan that are southerners.

Bottom line, this is MOB clan. This clan has an edge. Just look at what M.O.B. means !

And I like that we have an edge. Get whatever sig you want.


This post has been edited by Shred and Burn: 06/04/07 9:39pm

[Genocide Junkie]

Here's a good arguement. Think Black Panthers. Would it be okay for a bunch of black people to have flags, stickers, shirts w/Black Panthers on them and possibly a gun rack or two in their car? Would you be concerned for your safety? What about an Iraqi Fahadeen flag? Don't say it doesn't count cause it's not this country because the people that fly the Stars and Bars still seem to think the South Will Rise Again and consider themselves seperate from the Union.

PS - The war is over, y'all lost.

You watch too much T.V. Either that or you've never actually met someone from the south. There may be a couple hundred numbnuts who actually think the south is going to rise again. They are probably all related. Closely. Does that fit the picture? Call their Uncle "Pa". That's actually funny you think that. It's amazing how a few idiots make an entire geographical region look like backwards cave men.

This post has been edited by Genocide Junkie: 06/04/07 9:46pm

[pezking]

Here's a good arguement. Think Black Panthers. Would it be okay for a bunch of black people to have flags, stickers, shirts w/Black Panthers on them and possibly a gun rack or two in their car? Would you be concerned for your safety? What about an Iraqi Fahadeen flag? Don't say it doesn't count cause it's not this country because the people that fly the Stars and Bars still seem to think the South Will Rise Again and consider themselves seperate from the Union.

PS - The war is over, y'all lost.

You watch too much T.V. Either that or you've never actually met someone from the south. There may be a couple hundred numbnuts who actually think the south is going to rise again. They are probably all related. Closely. Does that fit the picture? Call their Uncle "Pa". That's actually funny you think that. It's amazing how a few idiots make an entire geographical region look like backwards cave men.

Whoah, I'm not trying to fight or argue anyone on this. I thought it was an interesting topic and gave my opinions on the question asked in the thread title. I live on the line, Northern Virginia where I pass about 10 Civil War monuments or battlefields on my 15 min commute to work everyday. I went to college in Richmond (capital of the Confederacy) for 8 years at two different schools for two different degrees. I'm very familiar with the south and some of the idiots that live there. Believe me, I've been through this debate several times and have argued both sides. My posts have all been a "food for thought" thing and I have stated that I don't really have any issues w/the sig. I will stick with my beliefs that most of the people that flaunt that flag are doing it for shock value, trying to stir stuff up with people... but oh well, to each their own. I also agree with your statement earlier "I think if you had to ask the question you already have your answer" as it speaks volumes.

[flatliner]

SInce I have been mentioned indirectly here, lets stay on topic, and look at this from another perspective....

A few months ago, it was mentioned that certain avatars be removed due to their violent and/or sexual nature. The debate then, was that we are playing a game based on violence, and thet it was hypocritical to encourage violence in the games, yet on the forums, that support said gaming, we are offended by CLOTHED breasts. The debate then turned to, the ability for one to turn off their avatars/sigs. Doing something noble, which is rare for me, since it OFFENDED a small portion of the clan, I removed my avatar. I did not fight it, and I certainly would not have done it this way...

If you don't like my 420x180 pixel square, then you need to man up and quit complaining. It isn't a big deal, and it is staying up until a member of {MOB}, [Regs], or someone with some authority asks me to remove it, or until I decide that it is time for me to make a new one.

[color=#FFFFFF]
Following that, I was asked by several members of the clan to put up not only my original avatar, but it was asked that I rotate different avatars to keep it fresh. There was no 3 page debate on this, and it was open for all to see. Not one person who originally had an issue with it sent me a PM, spoke to me on vent, or posted any follow ups to the choice. I have not had anyone mention that they were offended or bothered by it and by all means, there has been plenty of time for anyone to do so.

So, AXEL, since you TWICE used the same quote to back up your point (the same point you have changed your mind on a few times in the same thread) I feel your responses were directed in my general direvtion. I was going to leave it alone until you posted your lovely submission above.

Here is the bottom line from MY perspective. I dont care about your flag, or your sig. I can see past that. It haa been stated by a few members of mob and regs that they A. find it offensive yet support your right to use it, and B. believe you knew it would be offensive to some or you would not have had to ask. I have an issue with the way you stated your point in the post above. Please, pretty please, do not come in here and try and piss all over the place. We have several resident "pissers" and are in no need of anymore.

[Shred and Burn]

Haaaaaaa

Flat, I'll be pissed if you ever change that avatar !!

[Barkmann]

I think its ok

[Axel]

Sorry Flat. Didn't mean to single you or anyone else out like this. Seeing that I have played with {MOB} and the [Regs] for a long time starting in MoH:AA (granted I have had long absences) and am currently an *MR* trying to join [Regs], I am not here to make enemies or step on toes. I decided to put the sig up because many people encouraged me or were indifferent about it. I respect everyone's opinions, but seeing that no one to my knowledge told me directly "do not put that sig up, it offends me" I decided to go ahead and do it. I'm sorry for any drama, toe stepping on, or any other bullshit that I may have caused. I would really like it if everyone just dropped the subject and this thread was deleted before it becomes an issue that could come to hurt someone's feelings (I'm truly sorry if I did hurt someone's feelings, it was unintentional) or cause bruised egos. I'm sorry that this thread turned out the way it did, it was certainly not supposed to turn into a bashing of anyone.

Thanks for your understanding. And again, I'm truly sorry for pissing anyone off or starting any B.S. or drama.



Sincere apologies,

AXEL

[Genocide Junkie]

Hey Axel, I wouldnt worry about it too much. With a clan this size almost anything you do or say is going to offend or irritate someone. You didnt do anything out of line. There have been somethings going on that that have nothing to do with you that have everyone on edge. Put up the sig take down the sig no matter. Had you not said anything it would have gone unnoticed had I to guess. Lets just move on and go back to playing the game where everyone can agree to have fun.

Junkie

[flatliner]

Geno is right AXEL, this is a dead issue, and thanks for the sincere PM. I am solid brother. No worries. Seriously its all good.

His Flatness.

[T/A6Pak]

Flatliner made him do it!!!! Just blame Flatty.....haha

[Capt. Andtennille]

... (Not that I don't like the women! Keep 'em coming.)

That's how I keep mine happy.

Did I just cross the line??