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Major General  Group: Forum Member Posts: 1567 Joined: March 8th 2006 Member No.: 1631  |
Haha, I know what u mean.
Did you see this one.....? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130291 Core clock is the main thing on video (i know it all plays a part but the core clock IS the GPU) Core clock on this one runs 706 mhz.... ......has rebates..... didnt know if you were talking about this or not. just a thought Still looking.. Here it is at the mfgr website... http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=512-P2-N775-AR This post has been edited by )--S@B0T-->: 02/15/08 5:44pm |
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| Bargod |
02/15/08 5:57pm
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 The Bargod  Group: {MOB} Posts: 5008 Joined: March 4th 2004 From: Dallas Member No.: 641 Xfire: bargod |
OK, I upped the power supply to 500w which according to the newegg power calculator should be more than enough. I downgraded to 2gig of ram, and I found a better deal on an EVGA nvidia geforce 8600gts. Now after my $90 in rebates I'm standing at $750.
For that I'll probably go ahead and get a new, bigger hard drive right away and I'll need a network card. Anything else I'm forgetting? I'll list everything later. I'm pressed for time atm. QUOTE()--S@B0T--> @ 02/15/08 4:48pm)  Haha, I know what u mean. Did you see this one.....? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130291 Core clock is the main thing on video (i know it all plays a part but the core clock IS the GPU) Core clock on this one runs 706 mhz.... ......has rebates..... didnt know if you were talking about this or not. just a thought Still looking.. Here it is at the mfgr website... http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=512-P2-N775-AR This one is EVGA and cheaper and core clock of 720 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130086 Ahh, the difference is the onboard mem. I guess that's worth the extra couple bucks. --------------------   |
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02/15/08 6:00pm
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Major General Group: Forum Member Posts: 1567 Joined: March 8th 2006 Member No.: 1631 |
QUOTE(Bargod @ 02/15/08 4:54pm) OK, I upped the power supply to 500w which according to the newegg power calculator should be more than enough. I downgraded to 2gig of ram, and I found a better deal on an EVGA nvidia geforce 8600gts. Now after my $90 in rebates I'm standing at $750. For that I'll probably go ahead and get a new, bigger hard drive right away and I'll need a network card. Anything else I'm forgetting? I'll list everything later. I'm pressed for time atm. Sounds good! Why do you need a network card? Are you wireless at home? Reason I ask is your new mobo is Dual Onboard Lan equipped thereby negating the need for a separate network card. Only other thing I can think of is maybe.......an operating system. Do you have a copy of Windows? Ok, ok, enough for today. LOL! |
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02/16/08 12:42am
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The Bargod Group: {MOB} Posts: 5008 Joined: March 4th 2004 From: Dallas Member No.: 641 Xfire: bargod |
OK, so here it is at this point:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard EVGA 512-P2-N775-AR GeForce 8600GTS Superclocked 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS ATX12V / EPS12V 500W Power Supply 100 - 240 V Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE SB0570LPVP 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Low-Profile Sound Card COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case OK. This seems to be a pretty good deal. Once the $110 in mail in rebates are done it will total $790. In the following weeks of building it I will get a new hard drive and monitor as I find good sales locally, which are common. Grand total when complete with new hard drive and monitor I'm expecting to be around $1000. I'm pretty pleased with it. My wife seems to be assured I'm not recklessly throwing money away, but she is now getting a little hesitant as Duncan was accepted into a private school for next year today, so there is another big chunk of cash that we will need to have by August. Since we can finance through newegg intrest free for 6 months I think I can convince her that it's better to do it sooner than later. Wish me luck! -------------------- |
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| Old Man Mike |
02/16/08 2:42am
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 Admin Group: {MOB} Posts: 1711 Joined: October 4th 2005 From: Huntertown, IN Member No.: 1372 Xfire: mwcook |
Bar,
I've been watching as you consider and select your components. I think that process is one of the most enjoyable parts of building your own computer. You won't believe how satisfying it is to see it boot up for the first time. Anyway, take your time and enjoy it. Look at how your selections have evolved during the last week. When you just can't see a better value trade for any component, pull that trigger. Old Man Mike |
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| The-Blind-Norwegian |
02/16/08 3:44am
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 Major General Group: {MOB} Posts: 1715 Joined: February 13th 2006 From: Oslo, Norway Member No.: 1588 |
QUOTE(Bargod @ 02/16/08 12:42am) Wish me luck! Good luck BG!  --------------------   Team Barbarossa |
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| MyWifesMule |
02/16/08 8:53am
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BG, take a look at this video card 8800GTS its the same price after rebate and the 8800gts beats the 8600gts hands down, check out tom's hardware vga charts and see how both stack up in the frames per sec. department. http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_200...8&chart=318
That looks like a great case, thats the one I had settled on before I saw the one I have now. Sabots right, you won't need a network card as the IP35pro already has 2 on board LAN ports and they work great. As stated earlier I'd increase the power supply, stay away from CORSAIR as there are some compatibility issues with the IP35PRO mobo. The Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield tends to run hot especially if its the B3 stepping as opposed to the GO stepping. ( stepping = revision). The INTEL stock fan/heatsinks are notorious for being a pain in the ass to install and if you overclock, it will be inadequate, so I'd go with an after market cpu fan/heatsink. The one I have works great and its low profile and in expensive. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835103041 That corsair looks like an excellent choice in RAM check,but check out the timings of the G.Skill in the spec. sheet, their what I have and are fast as hell and great overclockers. G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 for $15. more. Just a thought. Good luck. Fun ain't it. This post has been edited by MyWifesMule: 02/16/08 9:13am --------------------   |
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02/16/08 1:07pm
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The Bargod Group: {MOB} Posts: 5008 Joined: March 4th 2004 From: Dallas Member No.: 641 Xfire: bargod |
You are nickel and diming me Mule!!! Next thing you know I'll have a $1200 PC and my wife will be kicking me out of the house. LOL.
On the plus side, a guy I bartend with used to build PC's for fun (before he got his mac) and told me he has lots of spare parts, especially power supplies. So, I may not need to buy one. If that is the case I'm definately stepping up to the 8800. However, staying in my price limit, which I've already rationalized to the wife, this may be the limit to what I can get at the moment. Thanks for the extra foot work though. It's definately increasing my knowledge. And, as Schoolhouse Rocky used to say, "knowledge is power"! -------------------- |
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| MyWifesMule |
02/16/08 3:06pm
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Colonel Group: {MOB} Regs Posts: 1140 Joined: December 31st 2005 From: " Live free or die" New Hampshire, USA Member No.: 1502 |
my wife will be kicking me out of the house.
Yeah, but at least you'll have a sweet gaming rig to amuse yourself with.  Keep us up to date, there are a few things you'll need to know when it comes to setting it all up and posting for the first time. ( Power On Self Test). Then making the necessary changes in the BIOS. < (google it). Don't sweat it, it's pretty easy. You'll be an old pro in no time, good luck. This post has been edited by MyWifesMule: 02/16/08 3:21pm -------------------- |
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| MyWifesMule |
02/17/08 8:04am
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Colonel Group: {MOB} Regs Posts: 1140 Joined: December 31st 2005 From: " Live free or die" New Hampshire, USA Member No.: 1502 |
BG, I found some information on the ABIT site The Beginners Guide to Building a Computer you may find useful, I would read this before putting your computer together. Also you should download the ABIT IP35Pro user manual to familiarize yourself with the board layout and different connection headers. IP35PRO Manual Happy reading. As you said, "knowledge is power". -------------------- |
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02/17/08 8:19am
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All I know Bar is u need to get it going cause u will love CoD4 BUDDY!!!!!!!!!!!
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02/17/08 8:43am
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Major General Group: Forum Member Posts: 1567 Joined: March 8th 2006 Member No.: 1631 |
QUOTE(Old Man Mike @ 02/16/08 1:42am) Bar, I've been watching as you consider and select your components. I think that process is one of the most enjoyable parts of building your own computer. You won't believe how satisfying it is to see it boot up for the first time. Anyway, take your time and enjoy it. Look at how your selections have evolved during the last week. When you just can't see a better value trade for any component, pull that trigger. Old Man Mike Hi BG! Mike's advice here is right on. You have come from considerations of purchasing manufactured rigs that you would have been very disappointed with, to researching each piece and part of a custom built machine. Great Job! I'm glad to hear you have a friend that has some knowledge, as well as, parts and pieces to help you. That's good to know. Mule brings up a good point that once you receive all your parts and start assembling, if you have ANY questions or don't feel something is going as you believe it should don't hesitate to bring it up. For the most part building a machine is a pretty straight forward process, however, there are times when the instructions are very vague and a little advice can help a lot. Some things to remember before you start: Make sure you have discharged ALL static electricity from your body before touching any components! I usually unpack the case first and always touch it before handling any parts. You can get a grounding strap at radio shack for a coupla bucks that hooks to your wrist and clips to the case, etc. Most likely you will be fine just be sure you touch the case before starting. Winter time is especially bad for static electricity build up, as we all know, and you can FRY a video card or a motherboard component just by touching it, so be careful. Have a work area that affords good lighting and room to work. (kitchen table, garage work bench, etc.) Have a flashlight handy, small phillips screwdriver, small pair of pliers, etc. When building don't get distracted. Trying to cook dinner, or watch a young one and build at the same time is asking for trouble. Try to build it when you can focus all your attentions on the task at hand. OH, and from experience here....wait to start drinking until AFTER you have windows loaded. LOL. If you happen to be out and about you might pick up some thermal grease or "heatsink compound". Your fan/heatsink comes with heatsink compound installed, but sometimes you might find yourself having to remove the fan/heatsink assembly for one reason or another. In that case, you will have to clean the old compound off completely and add some new. You can find this compound at Radio Shack or I even saw some at Office Depot. It's very inexpensive ( I think it was about $4.00 for a tube) and a little bit goes a long way. Just make sure to cover the entire top of the processor with a thin layer before re-installing the heatsink. As Mule mentioned, the Intel fan/heatsink is a bit of a pain to get installed the first time so having some of this stuff around won't hurt. Now, if you haven't already, get those parts on the way!! I am soo excited for you! Congratulations on making it this far! I look forward to hearing about your build as you go and if I can help you at anytime don't hesitate to holler! Best of luck to you, Chris. |
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02/17/08 4:44pm
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The Bargod Group: {MOB} Posts: 5008 Joined: March 4th 2004 From: Dallas Member No.: 641 Xfire: bargod |
I haven't ordered the parts yet, but I plan on putting it together at night while the kids are asleep, probably over several days. I'll load vent onto my wifes laptop and be bugging you guys for help often, I'm sure.
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02/17/08 8:41pm
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The Bargod Group: {MOB} Posts: 5008 Joined: March 4th 2004 From: Dallas Member No.: 641 Xfire: bargod |
Here's an interesting article on actual power used in a pc. It seems that most calculators say you need more power than your pc actually needs.
http://www.overclockers.com/articles1452/ -------------------- |
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| Big P |
02/17/08 9:00pm
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 Major General Group: {MOB} Posts: 2385 Joined: May 23rd 2004 From: Mississippi Member No.: 750 Xfire: PeePee209 |
Atleast a 750 Watts Bar.
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