MOB Forever Options

[maester]

[quote name='Bargod' date='04/15/08 2:47pm' post='172455'] [quote name='Shadow' post='172451' date='04/15/08 11:54am']

I couldn't really help. I'm "super-moderator" for the forums. Somebody put the word admin under my name when I brought up that I was not an admin because I removed Steels access after she quit. So, it's says I'm an admin, but I'm not.

I moved Steel to regs status two days after she quit, so it would make sense for Hamma to be removed two days later, as well. [/quote]



May I ask 1 simple question then? Not being rude or steering anything up. If shes no longer {MOB} why is she still running the {MOB} servers? I was just banned from the Rifles CTF server and wasnt even doing anything but playing and keeping my mouth shut? Dont get me wrong I dont care if im banned but I was playing with people who I still respect and got banned for nothing? So what doesnt make since is Hamma got removed from clan access yet steel is still running the servers (and still able to access the forums) and she is still claiming full ownership of all the {MOB} servers and a few other servers on gametracker?

[gen.gomer-pyle]

.....
why did you bring up my name?

LOL, relax...
It's not your name I brought up- it's the character from the tv show which I loved to watch in its reruns - I hardly know you for one thing.
To clarify; I was making a similarity to the way in which Pyle was always yelled at.
I have altered it, but IF it does bother you that much I'll remove it since by your alluding to there being some kind of possible connection, actually now has probably put it in some's minds that there may be one.

The style is always a clue. I see that they like to leave a space after the commas.

lol - hmmmm- well that narrowed the list of suspects down.... -it's normal to leave spaces after the comma! But yes- I think there are clues to see in style.

cool, thanks for clearing that up for me

[Bargod]

She didn't really quit. She said she quit, but didn't.

And I don't know anything about your ban. Perhaps you should bring it up in the forums.

[maester]

I would rather stay away from there. Thanx for the quick answer though.

[HammaTime]

I'm certainly not trying to stir anything up. Others managed to do that for me without my even trying.

All I know is that I quit because of the phenomenal disrespect that was displayed to me on these forums ... OUR forums ... by "fellow" MOB members. When I heard that people had apologized, I attempted to view the alleged apologies and found that my access to MOB forums had been pulled. I don't know what the time frame was because at the moment all that shit was coming down I was struggling with the death of my step-dad. It certainly wasn't TWO weeks. That is pure bullshit.

What I do know is that the real MOB wouldn't have allowed me to be treated the way I was treated.

This new and improved shit isn't worth my time.

[maester]

I've still yet to understand "why" Druid wouldnt have kept the {MOB} clan going himself since "he" actually owns the clan. So in all technicallity couldnt he run the {MOB} you guys/gals used to know? I dont know if he wants to or if he has the time to or means to.But isnt that option out there or is this forum eventually going to disappear and become a memory?

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

I'm certainly not trying to stir anything up. Others managed to do that for me without my even trying.

All I know is that I quit because of the phenomenal disrespect that was displayed to me on these forums ... OUR forums ... by "fellow" MOB members. When I heard that people had apologized, I attempted to view the alleged apologies and found that my access to MOB forums had been pulled. I don't know what the time frame was because at the moment all that shit was coming down I was struggling with the death of my step-dad. It certainly wasn't TWO weeks. That is pure bullshit.

What I do know is that the real MOB wouldn't have allowed me to be treated the way I was treated.

This new and improved shit isn't worth my time.

It is a bit confusing. I think that as soon as you made your post someone pulled your access pretty quickly because I think I saw that your status was changed but I can't be positive. What I do know is that I am 100% positive a couple/few days later you showed as a MOB member. It was after 2 weeks from your post that your status was then changed to a non-member.

We wanted to allow more time for you because you are very well liked by everyone and we hoped you'd reconsider now that some of us are getting Front Lines up and running and exploring some other things that may interest you. I think this boils down to status switchings and poor timing.

You were certainly jumped on unfairly by a very small number of MOB members (2?) who have quickly, and sincerely apologized.


I can dig into your removal issue further but I am pretty sure you don't really give a shit. I wish you would have tried to get in again later and at least seen the well wishes, etc. You certainly deserved that .

Oh well, this way it will give all the others here much more Puppy Chow for the Drama Dog.
Seroiusly, after another 6 months when we crash and burn and disban, What the hell will you people talk about?


To Undead: I was really getting into our comic discussions. Hope all is well.

To Hellfighter (the brother I never had but always fought with): A wedgie.



Sorry for the interuption, Let the bashing begin! Now that I posted here I'm sure I'll be



This post has been edited by Cpt. Snot Rocket: 04/15/08 9:49pm

[UNDEAD 1]

im not really trying to get involved with this whole battle,ive just always felt like this is home and enjoyed the conversations here-hell i have enough on my plate.i do however ,feel bad for david,this is not how anyone who practicaly orchestrated the first COD {MOB} team to #1 should be treated and the same goes for druid as well.i do miss the conversations snot ,just havent seen any over there i wanted to comment on,start the topic.

I would rather stay away from there. Thanx for the quick answer though.

and why were you banned? there has to be a reason maester?

[maester]

[quote name='maester' post='172464' date='04/15/08 6:15pm'] I would rather stay away from there. Thanx for the quick answer though. [/quote] and why were you banned? there has to be a reason maester? [/quote]





Your guess is good as mine I was playing fine then my wireless connection went out so I pinged out then when I went back to join it says you have been banned from this server.So your asking the wrong person why he was banned because he has no idea.I played in the rifles ctf server for more then a week with no problems until I posted here. Then boom I got banned from the server.

[Ktulu]

Druid, you are correct some members of the new forums did post that they wished people would not post over here. It was their opinions and their own personal views that spawned it. I dont think that any of the admins will delete a post in the near future so up it stays. I really hope that no one is giving people shit for posting over here as I dont really see the point. It seems to me that that would be a very quick way to lose a member.

Hamma, that saying has been in their since timbo here left. That being said, you built an amazing team on UO. I would like to thank you for all your effort and I was really dissapointed in the way you were treated.

Maester, I will look into why you were banned. It would be very disturbing to find out that you were banned for no reason.

As for the MOB whore who posted on the other site, I would like to think that they would come forward and Identify themselves. But in the meantime, my bet is on Diesel.

[Shadow]

Wow this will be my last post about this subject

Hammatime i do feel sorry for your loss. Wtf disrespect are you talking about? because we reply back to your gay insulting post at your fellow mob members?
Stop being such a pussy. What do you expect when you come with stupid comments about ellite and cod4 teams insulting your fellow members? Flowers..
First few times nobody reply to you because of a nice gesture and thinking is no harm at all or simply we just ignore you but when it comes to 4th time and Slimshady and Me told you off.What do you do?Instead to be a man and move on for insulting {MOB}team more then 1 occasion you leave the clan turning your back to your uo friends.
Does that sounds right to you? i mean for just a incident instead to see why that happened you just leave pff and trust me if you wold not start with your stupid post nothing of this would it hapent.How many times did we talk in the past few years? None.How many times did we disagree to any post over the past 3 years? None we always respected and congratulate UO team even if we did not play in the team but we where happy for your team because the end of the day is only one name at the top {mob},but you always post gay stupid comments about our cod4 team or specific people haw is that fair?? So who's fault is that this happened?and stop acting like your the victim and move on.

"You were certainly jumped on unfairly by a very small number of MOB members (2?) who have quickly, and sincerely apologized"

Now i don't want to create drama here or more shiet then it is but they where only 2 people who posted Slim and Me because some of the players felt irritating for your stupid posts and it looks that every week is another one so they ask themselves is this shiet ever going to end? But trust me they are loads more then 2 people on this.
And i Have to say i NEVER apologize to Hamatime and never will just for the fact that we have done nothing wrong then speaking for a group of people. I am far from perfect but when i know i am right and you irritate my friends really don't give a fuck i will tell you in face.
I think if fact he should be the one apologizing for what he has done.
And just to make it clear i have nothing against you and i never did and you do have some true friends in {MOB}who care for you but but who's fault is that you never check the forums because like Cpt. Snot said you have full mob membership for 2 weeks i know i cannot prove that (Druid)but they are people who checked his membership and saw that he was still in mob after 10 days.End of story.

[maester]

Maester, I will look into why you were banned. It would be very disturbing to find out that you were banned for no reason.

Thank you very much.If I get unbanned that would be great if not thats fine also I have other servers I can play on.Im not bringing any drama into this topic that I havent already.I may have said some things earlier in the topic but thats done and over with.{MOB} has some great people.Like I said though I posted my feelings over on this forum went and played for about an hour then my wireless connection game me the boot so I lagged out then when I tried rejoining it says you have been banned from this server.I havent said but maybe 3 words in the ctf server and I played with tagenrog most of the time so he can vouch that I didnt cause any problems.Im pretty sure my ban consists of this post and the fact that I havent been to silenced about me being booted out of {MOB} in which I felt I was done wrong but hey the past is the past and im over it.I just wanna play and go on with life.

[Robert]

I've still yet to understand "why" Druid wouldnt have kept the {MOB} clan going himself since "he" actually owns the clan. So in all technicallity couldnt he run the {MOB} you guys/gals used to know? I dont know if he wants to or if he has the time to or means to.But isnt that option out there or is this forum eventually going to disappear and become a memory?

That's the exactly opposite of the point I've been trying to make all along.
No one runs MOB and certainly no one OWNS MOB.
The fact someone has "admin" by their name doesn't mean they are any more important than any other member.
It sure as hell doesn't mean they suddenly don't have to answer to the rest of the members.
If a member ask why a decision was made and doesn't get an answer, to me that points to a huge problem.
Then again, that's just me and apparently isn't a view held by most current members of MOB now.
So MOB has changed from what it use to be, into something very different.
If everyone is happy with that, so be it, play and have fun.
People should just be honest and upfront enough to admit whats going on.

[HammaTime]

The issue that Shadow so eloquently accuses me of handling as if I enjoyed plowing the brown highway was very, very basic.

We had admins who felt because they had the word "admin" by their name, they could suddenly admin, not just the technical aspects of the servers, but they could now make decisions for the clan without consulting the council.

This vestiged itself in a variety of forms, from deleting posts that should never be deleted, to moving threads out of public view. And I don't want people to think I'm jumping on Steele here, OOM carried a whole new attitude into the managing of the forums. If he didn't like the way a discussion was going, he pulled it. That attitude stunned me , and others, and it made us feel the clan was heading in a wrong direction.

My references to the "elite" were never meant to disparage the great players on the COD4 and COD2 team, and I'm sorry that those words were interpreted by a few in that way. I challenge everyone to review the record by simply searching for all the times I've used "elite" in a thread. Go up to "Search" and type in "HammaTime" and search on the term "elite."

Reading those posts makes me think the only pussy in the room is the space where Shadow's balls should be hanging.

The vast majority of my posts were to further a discussion about the direction of MOB. The great tension that has always existed between the "elite" TWL competitors in the clan and the Regs who are here for fun and enjoyment has caused friction since long before BSS split away.

The post that got Shadow's panties in a wad was my attempt at humor. Perhaps if people had read the majority of posts between Hellfighter, Cross and I, they would know that I make feeble attempts at humor whenever I can. In the decisive thread, someone had found their way to these old forums when they couldn't find the servers (they had disappeared, without explanation, for days on end). I kept expecting someone with knowledge of the situation would answer these hapless inquiries. We basically were getting tired of answering the phone only to find it was the wrong number, and we were starting to get a bit punchy. Real Deal made a joke about a new form of security, something the newbie would have no idea what he was talking about. It was just the kind of humor I love, and the type of humor that makes this damn place feel like home. These guys are the masters after all.

So, I foolishly decide to add something further and I write,

I think they decided to make them invisible so only the elite could find them ... with their elite night vision goggles of course!

Did I think sensitive little boys like Shadow and Slim would read this and think I was taking a stab at them? Absolutely not. After all, if you read all my posts you will see just the opposite, I was SUPPORTIVE of maintaining the ELITE within MOB for competitive purposes. Where things had gotten messed up in MOB is that those with admin powers were now behaving as if they were the ELITE RULERS of the clan. Huge difference here.

But, Slim and Shadow felt that their delicate feelings were hurt, so they decide to jump me in a public forum. Real class.

What put me over the edge and made me realize that the OtherMob was not a place I would ever go again was Shadow's subsequent post. He slams Hellfighter after he came to my defense when he asked who the "we" were who no longer wanted me in the clan. Shadow responded,

'We' is we for example is me and him that's a 'WE' ,but is not just 'WE' they are many of us who he was speaking for but you wont know that and never will so don't really know why talk if you don't know ?

And there you have it, two members who think they can speak for the entirety of the clan all because the system has now broken down.

Shadow's last line is one worth hanging on to:

And just take a chill pill and relax calm down a bit and in the future get some facts then talk ,that sometimes stops embarrassed people


This is classic. Too bad he is so willing to hand out advice to others, and yet it is advice that he can't take himself!

Unlike some others here, I had registered at the new forums, something I felt I was obligated to do because Crazy Canuck had asked me to help out in the final matches of UO as he gallantly tried to get the team back to the #1 slot. I didn't feel I could wear the MOB tags in public if I wasn't a registered member at the new forums. Allegiance can be so confusing at times!

But, Slim and Shadow failed to discover this and instead, they jumped me in the OtherMob council. I can only guess that is why my access was pulled so quickly. They needed a private room where they could rant and rave.

Unfortunately, if my access had been restored, no one ever bothered to tell me. Once I saw I had been reduced to forum member status, I never tried to gain access to MOB council threads again. I did go back and look, but what I saw was they had reduced Cross to forum member status as well. That was the icing on the cake for me.

This post has been edited by HammaTime: 04/16/08 9:36am

[Robert]

And just to make it clear i have nothing against you and i never did and you do have some true friends in {MOB}who care for you but but who's fault is that you never check the forums because like Cpt. Snot said you have full mob membership for 2 weeks i know i cannot prove that (Druid)but they are people who checked his membership and saw that he was still in mob after 10 days.End of story.

Actually when I said 48hrs. I was trying to give whoever as much leeway as possible.
When I checked the member list after it was mentioned how quick Hamma's account had been switched.
It could have been as early as the next morning, the latest it could have been was 2 days later.
So I said 48hr's to give whoever the benefit of the doubt.
You or anyone else can claim I'm wrong about this but to me it's pretty obvious what happen.
Hamma's acct was quickly switched from MOB to forum member.
Sometime during the next day or two he mentioned to someone about how quickly his access had been removed.
That person or someone else brought up to one of the admins about how abnormally fast his access had been remove and it was switched back to MOB.
Then around 2 weeks later, it was switched back from MOB to forum member.


All I know is I checked it soon after he quit and his account had already been changed.
You or whoever else can claim I'm mistaken or a lying piece of shit if it makes you fell better.
It honestly doesn't make a lot of difference to me.
Because I know and whoever did it, knows that I'm right.
So that's enough for me.
I even get to have the satisfaction in knowing even if this whole thing was an honest mistake, no one had the balls to come forward an say so.
Someone could have easily said, I switched it but then switched it back after so-n-so asked me to.
Nope, that would be to easy.
So again, not a single word is said about something.
Why?
Don't ask me because I don't have the answer.
Whoever does know doesn't think they have to explain themselves, which sadly enough seems to be correct.