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post 04/22/08 4:13pm
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=CbnZCqZHPdU

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post 04/22/08 4:33pm
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funny but also pathetic .


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post 04/22/08 5:08pm
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If, "we are the ones we've been waiting for" ... why didn't we tell ourselves so we didn't have to wait???

I'm very confused.

Good linkage, however. I'm still waiting for the special Pennsylvania edition of the Hellfighter Newsletter.

I'm picking Hillary, but with only a 7-point spread so the real winner will be Obama.

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post 04/23/08 3:07am
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QUOTE(HammaTime @ 04/22/08 6:08pm) *
If, "we are the ones we've been waiting for" ... why didn't we tell ourselves so we didn't have to wait???

I'm very confused.

Good linkage, however. I'm still waiting for the special Pennsylvania edition of the Hellfighter Newsletter.

I'm picking Hillary, but with only a 7-point spread so the real winner will be Obama.


Very good call Hamma !!! [as it seems at this point]

However -this is Clinton..... as much as I'd like to see Obama take it, Clinton is in this until the bitter end - some natural instinct to rise from the ashes and prevail is in play on her part and she'll use any means to stay in the race even though she looks doomed. Of course McCain is grinning ear-to-ear as the Dems implode and he knows he could get a big chunk of voters from any 'bitter' losers who had supported either of the Dems.
At the time, I thought Romney was a wuss for dropping out in ceding to McCain instead of prolonging a close match - but it appears he may have earned the Repubs a very real shot at the Presidency.


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post 04/23/08 5:38am
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Did anyone else pickup on the interesting choice in the 2nd video.
They put Hillary's head on the black fighter and Obama's on the white one.
Does that make sense?
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post 04/23/08 5:50am
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QUOTE(Robert @ 04/23/08 6:38am) *
Did anyone else pickup on the interesting choice in the 2nd video.
They put Hillary's head on the black fighter and Obama's on the white one.
Does that make sense?


I shudder to think that you've not seen Rocky!!! It's not a strange portrayal of either of the candidates at all.
The clip is purely about an entertaining look at the attitudes of the opponents concerned; for a refreshing change as something to do with the messy candidate race thus far, racial undertones are ignored.
Apollo Creed [black fighter in the movie] is a near 100% caricature/character duplication of Hillary regarding her stance on the election race - admittedly she's not as boisterous as Apollo but you know she's thinking along the same lines of -
'who does this punk think he is believing in the fairy tale that he can beat me!'
yoooo Adrianneeeeee! ohmy.gif


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post 04/23/08 7:07am
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Someone should do one putting Hillary's head on the Terminator and Obama's head on Sarah Connor ... no, that just wouldn't be right.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I am beyond tired of seeing and hearing Hillary. I guess we can blame Sam and his older family members for this.
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post 04/23/08 11:45am
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IMO all these political antics are giving the election to mccain,he just seems to be sitting back and waiting for the next slander,lie or pastor to pop up.


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I certainly don't think it is helping whoever will be the eventual Democratic nominee, but I don't buy the argument that this is giving McCain the win.

Look at the numbers from Pennsylvania: 2,300,851 dems voted. That is amazing, and record breaking. Even more amazing is that this was just a primary. There were 8,328,123 voters registered in Penn (the last presidential election had a statewide turn-out of only 5 million). Since January, 218,923 new voters had registered. Of those, the vast majority - 80% were dems.

How is McCain going to get the votes of those 2.3 million?

I like the argument that Obama can't put away Hillary because of her incredible strength with women voters. These women want to see her break through the "glass" ceiling. It is impossible to peal them away from supporting her, but those women will flock to Obama once the race is down to him and McCain.
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post 04/23/08 1:41pm
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The last few elections have been very interesting, I think this one will be too for it's own reasons.
I honestly believe Hillary's campaigning over the last few weeks will hurt Obama if he wins the nomination.
At this point if Hillary does pull off the impossible and gets the nomination.
The only way that is going to happen is if the super delegates decide the outcome via a lot of back room dealing, which would split the Dem party.
It would essentially tell the black vote, most of the youth vote and the majority of western Democrats, the Democratic party doesn't care about them.
That's not my personal belief, just the way I see it playing out.

Something I'm keeping my eye on is who the VP will be as I see that decision as being more important in this election than any other in my lifetime.
For the democrats, the VP choice will be an attempt to heal the damage done by not having a candidate going into May.
Regardless of who wins right now, either choice between Obama or Hilliary is going to result in a lot of bitter dems.
The VP will be whoever can heal the split in the Democratic party.
I think it will even be more interesting on the Republican ticket.
The most obvious reason is McCain's age.
No one talks about it, but the feeling is he will probably be a single term president.
The power players in the RNC are hinting at Sarah Palin as a possible running mate to McCain.
I think a McCain/Palin ticket would be the best the Repub's could do.
A women VP could possibly steal a lot of the women's vote from either Obama or Hillary.
Sure she's only a VP, but that would put her as incumbent in 4 years
A women on the Republican ticket could also steal votes from Obama/Hillary from people who were not voting party line but based on voting for a change ( black man or women ).
Something that hasn't got much press is the fact, while Hillary got a large bump from the women's vote, she doesn't really poll that well with them.
If people like that compared Palin to Hillary, I'm pretty sure Palin would come out the winner.
Palin could also help swing some of the youth votes, she is only 42 not to mention attractive.
You have to admit there would be a lot of benefit in having a real person on the ticket, in place of a lifetime politician or someone in the pocket of special/corp interest.
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post 04/23/08 4:47pm
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I think the perfect VP candidate for an Obama candidacy is Retired General Wes Clark.

You guys are going to think I'm nuts, but I have incredibly strong memories of staying up late during the start of the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions just to listen to him discuss the situation with CNN's Aaron Brown. It was perhaps the most illuminating television I've ever witnessed. Others weren't so impressed as CNN canned Brown, a move that completely astonished me. He was kicked to make room for Anderson Cooper, someone I'd detest to this day if it wasn't for the way he comported himself in the Katrina aftermath.

Clark would bring a lot to the Obama ticket, he has been an ardent supporter of Clinton and would be the natural conduit between those two warring parties, he brings incredible experience and amazing skill from the Bosnia conflict. His military skills and foreign policy skills are precisely what Obama needs to fill out the ticket.

Oh, and did I mention he isn't 1,000 years old either? LOL!
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There are several issue's I disagree with Wes Clark on but I respect him overall.
If he would have won the ticket in 2004 in place of Kerry. I would have voted for him.
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post 04/23/08 9:12pm
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He was my early choice in 2004 as well, and I agree with you about certain issues. It doesn't seem possible to find a candidate that covers all the bases. He didn't prove to be much of a campaigner in 2004 and I wonder if he has honed those skills in the intervening years.
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