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[Robert]

There's a reason those new Honda and Toyota plants are in the South. It's no accident that they ended up in non union areas. It's a shame we'd rather lose jobs than to work for a wage that we can live on... says a lot about where we are now.

Since you mentioned union people would rather lose jobs than work for a living wage. Then I bet you would be surprised to find the Non-union auto works actually make more money than UAW workers at the big 3.
Average UAW laborer makes $29.78
While Toyota just topped $30.00
It's only when you include benefits into the mix does the union wage skyrocket.
Union is about $70
Non-Union is about $48
The reason for the big difference is legacy retirement cost
Source
BTW all the Toyota and Honda plants in Japan are 100% unionized.

It's worth mentioning UAW has complained several times that Toyota and Honda were breaking unionizing efforts at their plants by "paying to much money and giving big bonuses"
How freaking stupid is that?
The union workers aren't the problem, it's a failed mentality with union leadership and dirty business practices which put the unions in place.

[Blitz]

Most of the south has been booming, one of the reasons is they are right to work states

http://www.edpa.org/docs/right-to-work-map.pdf

Right to work definition,
http://www.nrtw.org/d/rtwempl.htm

[UNDEAD]

i don't want to hear about one bonus or pay raise.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090211/ap_on_...o/bailout_banks

[Robert]

I live in Kansas, a right to work state. I also work in a heavily unionized industry.
Where I work there are 5 different Unions covering different employee groups. I'm glad that I work in a "right to work state" because even though I strongly believe in the base fundamentals behind organized labor, I no longer support my union due to some dirty dealings over something that happened two years ago.
Each time I'm approached by a union member trying to get me to sign back up I reply with
"Why should I join and pay to have the union lie to me when the company is willing to do it for free"
The issue concerned an upper level union rep lying to me and about 500 other people about how a situation was going to be handled. When the problem came to it's final conclusion and didn't turn out the way we were told. I went back an asked the union rep about it. He looked me straight in the eyes and lied through his teeth, saying he never said or implied what I though he said, I must have misunderstood him. Of course if I misunderstood him so did about 500 other people as they were just as pissed.
I would have accepted it if he would have told me he was wrong an apologized for misleading me, I wouldn't have like it but I would have accepted it.
Just my personal experience and take on things.

[Robert]

Someone that gets it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEZB4taSEoA

As pro Obama as most of CNBC is, I'll be curious to see if Santelli 's face time is reduced.

[UNDEAD]

The one thing that this shows me is the lack of confidence between Wall st and the current administration,this may be why were tumbling down daily.

[Blitz]

I smell a RAT in the stimulus bill.

http://www.dcexaminer.com/politics/The-RAT...l-39805642.html

How this is supposed to stimulate the economy I will never know. It will be handy however to eliminate political opponents, get cabinet appointee's to pass muster, and to keep members in your own party from being investigated.

It's all about power, never people.

[Robert]

When it's all said and done, so much of this so called Stimulus bill is actually done to balloon the size of the Federal government. Which they will then use to increase or even create whatever social programs they want to over the next few years. Look at how much of B.S. was said during the election concerning
"it's time the rich pay their share". If anyone looked at the numbers they would understand that's complete crap. But this will give the left all the justification they need to push even more of the tax burden onto the wealthiest 5%.
Not because the Libs care about the little people. It's done to increase the control of the left and prevent the Right from ever being able to run again on the platform of cutting taxes or for smaller government because an ever increasing majority will be receiving some type of government support.

We are witnessing a permanent power grab by the left. They don't care if it moves us closer to being a socialist country, which history has proven will fail. They don't care because they are politicians 1st and Americans 2nd. I'm not saying Republican politicians are any better, all they care about is to keep their party in power too. The difference is the direction the country is going to go.

[Bargod]

We are witnessing a permanent power grab by the left. They don't care if it moves us closer to being a socialist country, which history has proven will fail. They don't care because they are politicians 1st and Americans 2nd. I'm not saying Republican politicians are any better, all they care about is to keep their party in power too. The difference is the direction the country is going to go.

That's what the left said after Bush was elected about the Republicans. I know you are saying that Republicans are no better, and I agree, politicians are in it to get re-elected, not to help the country, but to say the difference is the direction the country is going to go makes no sense to your argument. For it to be different than the Republican held government the direction the country is going to go is up.

I'm not saying the stimulus package is the best idea. I just don't think the Republicans were doing any better. Like you said earlier, it better work or we are all screwed. However I have yet to hear a single Republican with a plan that is any better at all. The truth of the matter is that Republicans have grown the government out of control and spent while preaching budget discipline. They preach tax cuts, but their own tax cuts, not tax cuts for the middle class. It's all crap, just like the Dems. It's politics all around and I just don't like it when I see the accusation made against one side or the other.

Until I find a party that actually represents my welfare and my views I'll go with the guy I think will fuck up the least. In this instance it was Obama. I hope he doesn't make me regret it.

[Blitz]

Here is a republican plan that was presented, it was tabled and never brought up for vote.
It is HR 7909

http://gohmert.house.gov/Article.aspx?NewsID=1357

What is amazing is it is a 2 month tax holiday on the 350 billion left in tarp funds.
If you used the 800 billion in stimulus money as well it could have been almost a full year tax holiday.

If you are going to "borrow" the 800 billion to fund the stimulus, and use taxpayer dollars to fund the running of the government, why not borrow the 800 billion instead to run the government and leave the 800 billion in the pocket of every taxpayer for a year?

It would seem to me that if every taxpayer wereto keep their entire paycheck, they could pay down debts and save money, thus bailing out banks as well as have capitol to do home improvements, save towards buying a house, car, tv, etc...

Sounds like that is more of an instant stimulus, rather than pet projects and pork along with "shovel ready" BS that will not get moving this year and next, hell the CBO even said only 7% will be spent this year.
We could have spent 100% this year and returned the monies to the taxpayer!

Oh that's right the gov't cares about the people that get up work every day and pay taxes....BS

[Bargod]

I like John Stewarts idea of giving the money to the people to pay off their debt, thus flooding money back into the banking system where they can begin giving out loans again. Instead of bailing out the banks you are bailing out the people.
Of course people who used poor judgment to get so far into debt don't deserve to be helped, just the banks that used poor judgment giving risky loans...

[UNDEAD]

I like John Stewarts idea of giving the money to the people to pay off their debt, thus flooding money back into the banking system where they can begin giving out loans again. Instead of bailing out the banks you are bailing out the people.
Of course people who used poor judgment to get so far into debt don't deserve to be helped, just the banks that used poor judgment giving risky loans...

this is true.one of my listings that is doing a short sale,the guy refied 4 times and cashed out all that equity, 250k and im pretty shore hes sitting pretty with a 100k tucked somewhere and were bailing him out. i think if you refied you shouldn't be able to short sale,you should have to foreclose.