PART 2: HISTORY OF GOVERNMENT-SPONSORED TERRORISM Options

[Too Exclusive]

PART 2: HISTORY OF GOVERNMENT-SPONSORED TERRORISM
(PART 1 was "What REALLY happened on 9/11")

This explores the history of government-sponsored terrorism in chronological order, starting from the burning of Rome by Emperor Nero in 64 AD, all the way up to the Madrid, Spain bombing on March 11th, 2004. This shows what the disaster was and who gained from it. Very interesting read.

The burning of Rome, 64 AD
On July 19th, 64AD, Rome was burned by Nero. The fire raged for six days, was put out, then reignited and burned for three more days. Nero used this to rebuild the ruins of Rome to his liking.

The USS Maine disaster, 1898
In the 1890's, America was growing to be an imperial super power. The USS Maine, a battleship, was sent to Havannah Harbor on January 25th, 1898. On February 15th, a "mysterious" explosion occured, sinking the main and taking 266 passengers with it. The disaster was blamed on the Cubans, and the Spanish-American war ensued. It is now positive that the Spanish were not responsible for the sinking of the main, and some sources indicate that William McKinley's navy was responsible.

The assassination of Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand, 1914
In 1914, Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand was soon to take crown of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Under oppression, the Serbs didn't want Franz Ferdinand to be emperor. Using weapons provided by the Serbian government, a group called the "Black Hand", led by master assassin Gavrilo Princip was sent to assassinate the Arch Duke during his visit to Sarajevo, in Bosnia. By chance after the first failed attempt, the Arch Duke's driver made a wrong turn, and Princip shot both the Arch Duke and his wife, Sophie. Unfortunately, the Serbs did not get what they wanted from the attack. Instead, they got the start of The Great War (World War I), which would end up slaughtering about 20 million Europeans.

The Burning of the Reichstag, 1933
After the Nazis were democratically elected to office, chancellor of Germany Adolf Hitler wanted to get total control of Germany. On February 27th, 1933 he set the Reichstag building a blaze and blamed the communists. The communists were among the first people to go to the camps, Hitler was able to obtain full dictatorial power, and the people willingly gave up their rights to be protected from the internal enemies (the communists), or so they thought.

Pearl Harbor, 1941
Although not necessarily an inside job by the government, the Japanese "surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor was no surprise to Roosevelt and the top naval commanders. The Americans had broken the Japanese code and intercepted Japanese messages stating that they were going to attack the naval base at Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941, months before the attack happened. Roosevelt needed a way to get us into the war, and Pearl Harbor was that way.

Operation Northwoods, 1962
Never was this plan carried out, but it was still thought of. In 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis, top military generals wanted a pretext to go to war with Cuba. This pretext was detailed in Operation Northwoods, a plan that detailed many different ways of attacking Americans, civilian and military, and blaming it on Cuba. Some of the things mentioned in Northwoods are hijacking/blowing up aircraft, a "Remember the Maine" incident, having US Special Ops dress up as Cubans and attack marines at Guantanomo bay, and much more.

Kenedy Assassination, 1963
On November 22nd, 1963, President John F. Kennedy was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald while driving through Dallas. I'm not quite clear on the motives of the Kennedy assassination, but one thing is clear: it was not one man alone. Lee Harvey Oswald was on the payroll of the CIA, that is a fact. Some of the possible motives that i've encountered were that he didn't want to go along with Operation Northwoods, he served the people more than the Elite (the New World Order), and that he tried to keep us out of Vietnam. The year after, we entered Vietnam due to a lie about the Gulf of Tonkin.

Gulf of Tonkin incident, 1964
The Gulf of Tonkin incident was claimed to be an unprovoked attack by the North Vietnemese, just like the Maine disaster was. It is positive that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was NOT unprovoked, some sources even claim the whole incident was fabricated to start the Vietnam war.

Operation Anfal, 1988
During the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980's, the United States backed Iraq. The Reagen administration provided Saddam Hussein with chemical weapons (the same weapons we'd use as a pretext for going to war with in 2003), and between February and September of 1988, General Ali Hassan al-Majeed, cousin of Saddam Hussein, headed the Anfal campaign against the Kurds of northern Iraq (who were opposers of the Hussein regime) and by the end, killed 250,000 Kurds, men, women, and children. The US knew about this genocide and did nothing.

World Trade Center Bombing, 1993
On February 26th, 1993, the WTC was bombed. The bomb was cooked by the FBI and the driver trained by the FBI. The attack was meant to topple the building, but the driver did not park as close to the support column as he was supposed to, instead killed 6 people, injuring 7 others (i think). This attack was an attempt to set up martial law.

Waco Massacre, 1993
April 19th, 1993 marked the end of a 51 day seige on the Branch Dividian church at Mt. Carmel, in Waco, Texas. That day, the ATF(Alcohol/Tobbaco/Firearms) finished the raid by burning the church to the ground, killing 74 men, women, and children. It was blamed on a Branch Dividian nut, who they say burnt the church to the ground from the inside. The Branch Dividians had many firearms inside the church, all which were confiscated by the ATF after it was burnt to the ground.

Oklahoma City bombing, 1995
Within the year prior to the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building in Oklahoma City, Bill Clinton failed in getting a gun control law passed. On April 19th, 1995, we were told that Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nicholls drove a truck of amonium nitrate and blew up the whole front facade of the Alfred P. Murrah building. Throughout the day, there were reports of explosive devices inside the building that never went off. It was a sloppy FBI scam that killed 128 people, although most never found out about it. The following year, Bill Clinton easily passed his gun control act.

TWA Flight 800, 1996
This is the incident that has made me scared to fly in a plane ever since I was very little. Unsure if it was intentional or an accident (since I have found no motives), one thing I do know is that there was a massive cover-up following the crash of TWA Flight 800 on July 17th, 1996 that killed 230 people. The plane was shot down by a missile.

Terrorist attacks of 9/11, 2001
As you all know, we were attacked on September 11th, 2001. But we were told that Arab hijackers crashed planes into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, when in actuality it was all engineered by our government. The government was then able to get more funding for the FBI and CIA, they had an excuse for their already planned wars with Afghanistan and Iraq, it was a great Reichstag incident where the American people were forced to give up their liberties for security, the big corporations gained money off of war, and the police state held a tighter grip on America.

Anthrax attacks, 2001
Shortly after 9/11, Anthrax was sent to many people, including Sen. Tom Daschle. It turns out this type of anthrax was manufactured in a lab in America. I'm not sure the motives of the attack.

Madrid subway bombing, 2004
On March 11th, 2004, exactly 911 days after 9/11, a subway in Madrid was bombed. The elite love numerology (11, 911 days after 9/11). I'm not sure the motives of this attack.

There are many attacks I've left out, but you get the idea. Government-sponsored terrorism is all around us.

Eric Idelson

[futureman]

so, young man, youre using hypothetical evidence over huge amounts of time to say that certain historical moments werent recorded correctly by many different historians from many different historical view points? that in fact they are all wrong because these certain situations were cover ups by the very governments that used them to gain and are now just coming to light?

youre saying that OUR gaovernment blew up the WTC's? that the FBI was behind the more recent US terrorism?

if i was to guess, i would say that your "movement" is closely related to the type of people who are behind acts such as these and would be very benefited by persuading young people, such as yourself, to jump on their bandwagon and think like them. to become them.

there are always people who dont believe what actually is. and there are numerous paths you can travel to hypothetically twist a moment in time to appear any way you want it to seem. from the kennedy assassination to paul mccartney's death to the Bible. if you want to believe it bad enough, you'll eagerly see what "the movement" wants you to see.

the true strength is to be able to read a situation and determine whether or not that it is an agenda of a group, a true cover-up, a lie, or just obvious history.

i'd say that 99% of what people claim to be governmental cover-ups are really just wishful thinking from demented minds. i say this because of the amount of people who have an enormously greater library of information to draw from who would like nothing better than to find out that the US blew its own towers. and in all seriousness, GWB and co. wouldnt have to blow up our greatest financial institution to enter into a war with iraq/afg.

there are entire organizations of other countries who do not like what the US is that would go to great lengths to belittle the US government. your "movement" may be one, but those groups, some legitimate governments, would probably quickly turn information like what you are claiming into world news almost instantly.

and, in doing so, our own government would be forced to take action.
so far, what you are claiming is just here-say and hypothetical situations developed by folks such as yourself who want so baddly to find a truth.

dont be taken by those who wish to topple what you have.

[Too Exclusive]

these things are not "hypothetical". you know what my reaction was when first told that our govt was behind 9/11? "yea right!" but someone told me to research, and being the open-minded concerned person that i am i did research it and uncovered more and more evidence pointing to govt coverup and after a while it just became undeniable.

go to http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html

another thing is that on the national archives, it includes operation northwoods with the files relating to the assassination of kenedy. northwoods was a classified document until the at least the 90's... so if northwoods was related to the assassination of kennedy, that means someone at the top must've been in some way involved with the assassination. it was NOT one man alone.

This post has been edited by Too Exclusive: 02/16/05 3:23pm

[futureman]

ah, to be 15.

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ah, to be 15.

[blk96gt]

I knew everything when I was 15.

[futureman]

i know where Too is.
except when i was there, my thing was reducing religion, or more specifically christianity, to rubble. (because the whole government thing wasnt quite right for my generation like it is Too's) i had the whole bible pinned down. i would go to church with my mom and the sunday school teacher hated me because i had a "what about if you looked at it THIS way" scheme going that in hindsight was pretty darn good. crap, sometimes i had them cornered where they had no answer. i wasnt falling for their bull shit for one minute.

but the thing is, it was i who didnt get it. there was only one "right" and that was the right I had decided to be right. i couldnt see that things had many different faces. that not all is what i want it to be...even if i had all my ducks in a row. i knew that the whole christian religion was a farce and i was going to expose it for the scam it was. i was to free the minds of the flock to show them the shepard was leading them to the trough. religion was a simple mind trick to keep the masses in line. ha. now that i have children i think i can see things a little clearer
but my mom still laughs at that old way i was.

[Too Exclusive]

religion is just a farce. religion is just a way of controlling ppl making them think a certain way or believe a certain thing by threatening them with a made up place called hell. religion is the oldest conspiracy. think of how many millions of ppl were slaughtered/tortured/murdered in god's name. 11 million during the holocaust, countless thousands during the spanish inquisition, thousands of enemies of the church throughout the years, all the christian martyrs that died in the colosseum, all the ppl that are dying in the middle east because of jew/muslim wars... suicide bombers and shit. all in god's name. and it's harder being a kid my age knowing girls that are christian and wont do shit cause it their bible says otherwise. what's most fucked up is my x g/f used to have this magazine bible, and in it it had questions and answers... some of the shit it said in those Q&A's made me wanna burn it "o you shouldn't date atheists they're BAD[no, they're good, they just show sheepish religious fucks how to wake up]", "you shouldn't kiss a member of the opposing sex until ur married cause that's a SIN", "it's good to be celebate your whole life cause ull be better in the after life"... UGGHHH just thinking about it makes me wanna puke. fuck religion, celebacy is bullshit. sex is natural, if it was a sin then god wouldnt have made 1/2 of us with cocks and the other halves with pussies! and he woulda made a different way of reproducing! anyone who would go celebate their whole lives should be fucking shot for being so stupid... celebacy rapes ppl of the right to love, and LOVE is the true meaning of life. without the ability to love, there would be no life. without AFFECTION, there would be no life, life would be pointless without LOVE. fuck celebacy.

[Silver]

you really are fucked up.
im done.

[Too Exclusive]

how am i fucked up? cause i dont like religion? there are lots of ppl that share that emotion... and those come str8 from that godamn magazine bible... i think religion is the thing that brainwashes most ppl...

[futureman]

ah, to be 15.

one day you'll look back and think, "heh heh, what the hell was i thinking?"

i know i sound like an old fart....maybe because i am. 34. but brother, your thoughts are natural thoughts of a 15-18 yr old. keep up the good work. this is good reading.

[Too Exclusive]

thanx man... that's the first compliment i got! lol.

[Hotshot]

You guys sorry to say this he is right except religion has a major part in it . Alot of you don't know it but I spent 10yrs in a combat engineer unit of the army . I belive in the constituion and the bill of rights. I have and will fight for this country again if needed but there is no way in hell I would ever fight for the goverment again. It will be for all the american's and my family .But what I have seen of friend's from the first war and now this war the goverment is ignoring them again . I have had many friend's die from the gulf war syndrom that our goverment says doesn't exist. Now if you guys want to know what is really going on go to infowars.com. Or try to find some information an a guy named ALEX JONE"S. He has many video's out and he also has the proof. Our goverment is so fucked up you can't belive it .So if you all want to keep saying people are fucked up start by looking at the elected officals we have in office.And the younger guys in here I feel for all of you because there is no way in hell I would want to be a teenager now . so if you have anything to say it ask question's befor you say were fuck up .

[Hotshot]

All except the religion part TOO you better get straight

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