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post 07/09/05 3:21pm
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QUOTE(holden_caulfield @ 07/09/05 3:24pm)
Silver, I've pretty much ignored all your posts because, believe it or not, they are more outlandish than RealDeal's. But to completely ignore you wouldn't be nice so I'll just respond here. Nuclear bombs do not "level mountains." They don't even completely level dense cities residing in between mountain valleys (nagasaki). Are you aware of how much mass a mountain has? The rest of your claims will have to stand as they are (remember that arab clerk who disappeared on sept. 10?), for which I apologize to the rest of the community. I am drained. (Sorry, I don't know how to convey that thought with any more "depth").
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wow no shit...there is little that would level a mountian. but it would render it useless, and drive them out. which is the obj. at the current time and which has been discussed publicly... but im nuts right? funny how most people here agree and you dont.

oh and that clerk also had pics of his kids and family holding (i assume ak's). he was a little odd but i went to his store the day before and he left everything and never came back. according to the arab store on the other corner he went home. nice timing. personaly i think you like to hear your self speak. you are a shallow person.
btw i have a vested intrest in arab-americans....
i personally support various others that have called for you to be trolled, personally you just come here to stir shit and no matter what is said you like to go against the grain. i dont recall 1 good post from you. this being from a person that spends A LOT OF TIME here. you can go back to snorting coke now...

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post 07/09/05 3:39pm
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QUOTE(Silver @ 07/09/05 4:21pm)
wow no shit...there is little that would level a mountian. but it would render it useless, and drive them out. which is the obj.
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Let me play military commander for a minute... Here's how I would take them out in the mountains... first you take a few of THESE to clear any of the bastards who may be outside of their cave.... then take some of THESE to penetrate a bit deeper and then you finish it off with some of THESE, with nuclear warheads of course, to penetrate even deeper.

Hey, it's a start.

Of course, I'm not a real military commander, but I play one on TV wink.gif


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post 07/10/05 5:34am
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QUOTE(Silver @ 07/09/05 8:21pm)
QUOTE(holden_caulfield @ 07/09/05  3:24pm)
Silver, I've pretty much ignored all your posts because, believe it or not, they are more outlandish than RealDeal's. But to completely ignore you wouldn't be nice so I'll just respond here. Nuclear bombs do not "level mountains." They don't even completely level dense cities residing in between mountain valleys (nagasaki). Are you aware of how much mass a mountain has? The rest of your claims will have to stand as they are (remember that arab clerk who disappeared on sept. 10?), for which I apologize to the rest of the community. I am drained. (Sorry, I don't know how to convey that thought with any more "depth").
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wow no shit...there is little that would level a mountian. but it would render it useless, and drive them out. which is the obj. at the current time and which has been discussed publicly... but im nuts right? funny how most people here agree and you dont.

oh and that clerk also had pics of his kids and family holding (i assume ak's). he was a little odd but i went to his store the day before and he left everything and never came back. according to the arab store on the other corner he went home. nice timing. personaly i think you like to hear your self speak. you are a shallow person.
btw i have a vested intrest in arab-americans....
i personally support various others that have called for you to be trolled, personally you just come here to stir shit and no matter what is said you like to go against the grain. i dont recall 1 good post from you. this being from a person that spends A LOT OF TIME here. you can go back to snorting coke now...
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If you don't recall one good post from him, you are the idiot that I have always suspected you to be. People going against the grain is what made this great country. This point of this thread (i think) is for people to post their opinions.

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You seriously play one on tv?
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"Real, when we get hit again, I hope it's in my neck of the woods too. That way I can use it to leverage my arguments and justify my racism! "


This just goes to show the lack of intelligence there! Kinda hard to prove a point DEAD!!!!

Its not racism, when they are trained for this their whole lives...It's insane...While our children are being taught manners, education, and are being trained for a working world, They are over their being trained to hate, racism, and blowing us up...This goes way beyond rasicm...Of course you're to blind to see that...
They are an army that has been trained to HATE! Race doesn't come in to play...Its just so happens they are muslim...

I am half Syrian and I agree nuke the B... Yes, there would be innocent lives taken, but what about all the innocent lives they have already taken and are still threatening to take more of them, including our schools, how much more innocent can you get...Sorry I don't want to be the one to get that phone call...So what do we sitting around and wait see how many more they kill...

Real, i'm with u all the way!!!

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Hello Dolphin. You must be new here. Allow me to clear something up which I mentioned a few posts back, but which must have gotten lost in our spaghetti debate. I took the liberty of extracting some aforementioned ideas and presenting them here for you.

Perhaps racism is a term that is too charged. In fact, I think RD, in real life, is probably a swell guy no matter what race you are. In person that is.

But my complaint is against his racial bias against Arabs--american or otherwise. When you say.

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While our children are being taught manners, education, and are being trained for a working world,


The children you are referring to--our children--include a population of arabs who are American citizens, the same kind of citizens RD would like to intern. You mentioned that you yourself are part Syrian. I assume you are a citizen. When I pointed out that Arab-Americans like yourself are no different from "white" americans like RD, this was his response:

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You say that Muslim-Americans are no different than me... Really? After the planes hit the tower, I don't remember myself running out into the streets of New Jersey celebrating and cheering about what had just happen.


So right off the bat he has judged you and everyone of your background, regardless of your individual merits. And this is what he uses to justify the internment of American citizens who happen to be of the same ethinicity and religion as the terrorists. But they are not terrorists any more than you and I are criminals. Criminals of all races have committed crimes, but these crimes do not indict the entire race.

His comments about nuking the Middle East are not the "racist" comments in question. There we just disagree on what is effective and morally justified policy.
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QUOTE(All over but the Crying @ 07/10/05 6:34am)

If you don't recall one good post from him, you are the idiot that I have always suspected you to be.
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Was that really necessary?


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Unfortunately if we use nuclear warfare in the Middle East then the entire world will collapse in a catastrophic economic downfall. We are so dependent on foreign oil, namely that from of all places...the Middle East, that without it the country could not function. What intelligent people we have on this discussion board... rolleyes.gif. By the way, Catcher in the Rye blows.


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QUOTE(holden_caulfield @ 07/10/05 10:30am)
When I pointed out that Arab-Americans like yourself are no different from "white" americans like RD, this was his response:

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You say that Muslim-Americans are no different than me... Really? After the planes hit the tower, I don't remember myself running out into the streets of New Jersey celebrating and cheering about what had just happen.


So right off the bat he has judged you and everyone of your background, regardless of your individual merits. And this is what he uses to justify the internment of American citizens who happen to be of the same ethinicity and religion as the terrorists.
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No, my justifcation for internment goes further than a bunch of muslims dancing and whooping it up that 3,000+ innocent people were killed.

The terrorists who struck on 9/11 were Muslim. They lived in this country for a while before 9/11. There are terrorists and cells living in this country right now. There are Muslims that live in this country that fund terrorism. So why not intern and sort them out? It's for everyone's protection.


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Ok Rd, let me offer a hypothetical. What if--just what if--we catch a few American citizens who are neither Muslim nor Arab aiding and abetting terrorists? Does their race get the same broad treatment? What if they're white and have separate agendas but similar goals?
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QUOTE(Blakjak @ 07/10/05 12:54pm)
Unfortunately if we use nuclear warfare in the Middle East then the entire world will collapse in a catastrophic economic downfall.  We are so dependent on foreign oil, namely that from of all places...the Middle East, that without it the country could not function.  What intelligent people we have on this discussion board... rolleyes.gif.  By the way, Catcher in the Rye blows.
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Actually, if you want to get technical, we can use Neutron bombs and still be able to safely go in and produce oil.


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QUOTE(Blakjak @ 07/10/05 11:54am)
By the way, Catcher in the Rye blows.
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OIL! Hoorah for OIL!


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Actually, if you want to get technical, we can use Neutron bombs and still be able to safely go in and produce oil.
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Ok I don't know about the source, but this is what I found on neutron bombs.

"Also called ENHANCED RADIATION WARHEAD, specialized type of small thermonuclear weapon that produces minimal blast and heat but which releases large amounts of lethal radiation." --http://www.manuelsweb.com/neutronbomb.htm

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"The neutron bomb is a small hydrogen bomb. The neutron bomb differs from standard nuclear weapons insofar as its primary lethal effects come from the radiation damage caused by the neutrons it emits. It is also known as an enhanced-radiation weapon (ERW).

The augmented radiation effects mean that blast and heat effects are reduced so that physical structures including houses and industrial installations, are less affected. Because neutron radiation effects drop off very rapidly with distance, there is a sharper distinction between areas of high lethality and areas with minimal radiation doses."--http://www.atomicarchive.com/Fusion/Fusion5.shtml

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QUOTE(All over but the Crying @ 07/10/05 6:34am)
If you don't recall one good post from him, you ae the idiot that I have always suspected you to be. People going against the grain is what made this great country. This point of this thread (i think) is for people to post their opinions.
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i might be an idiot, but i am one of millions of idiots that feel that way. everyone has their right to say what they feel but i feel he has al alterior motive, to be a forum troll....
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