Let me ask you guys a question Options

[Too Exclusive]

here's an interesting way of looking at things


here's what we know about 9/11 (because we saw it with our own eyes):
- an aircraft crashed into each tower.
- the towers came down.
- something happened at the pentagon that left a smoldering hole. that section later collapsed.
- something happened to flight 93.
- building 7 came down.

now, filling in any other information is a CONSPIRACY THEORY, agreed? so now there are TWO main conspiracy theories... the one the government/media tells us that 19 hijackers (many which later were found alive and well in the middle east) took over four planes and crashed them into the towers and pentagon and the heat from the burning jet fuel made the towers collapse, and that a minor fire made building 7 collapse.

and the other conspiracy theory is the one i told you.

now the point im trying to make is that they're BOTH conspiracy theories... cause everyone just looks at it like what the govt says is the truth and im the conspiracy theorist... well no, because the government's story is a theory too. the thing i dont like is the government never provides evidence for their theories, and everyone just believes them. another theory is Condoleezza Rice saying in 2001 after 9/11 that she had evidence clearly linking Osama Bin Laden to the attacks of 9/11 and that she would release that in due time... she never did.

if the govt is innocent... y dont they prove it, which if they are innocent can be easily done by releasing the video footage of w/e hitting the pentagon that we know they have. or by releasing that evidence Condy Rice says she has and she SAID she would release... y hasn't she? just some questions. if they're innocent why dont they prove it? i mean think about it... they go to such great lengths like using Michael Chertoff's cousin to write that popular mechanics article, to get Penn & Teller to make their conspiracy episode of "BULLSHIT!", they got mad other people to try to debunk conspiracy theories, so y not do the easiest things to clear themselves of guilt? y not?

[Maddcapp]

You really just can't believe the truth can you? It scares me to think that there are more people that believe the way you do here in the U.S. I am glad that you are part of a tiny percentage of people though.

[Too Exclusive]

see your problem madcapp, is that i stated something that was TRUE. all i was saying was the only things we know that happened HAPPENED BECAUSE WE SAW THEM HAPPEN. AGREED? the other stuff we were TOLD happened. so because we were TOLD that's what happened, does that necessarily mean that's what happened?

and how about next time instead of saying the SAME THING YOU ALWAYS SAY, try to answer one of the many questions i raised in my comments, like why Rice hasnt released the evidence linking Osama Bin Laden and 9/11 that she SAID she would release?

[Maddcapp]

The question I put to you is why do you feel it is necessary for our government to spend the time to ease the minds of a few of you crackpots going through a prozac withdrawal? Try trusting our government just a little, unless of course you have a problem with democracy. Then maybe you should leave, hell I will even come help you pack...

[Too Exclusive]

well i think this country should be a republic... but that's besides the fact. they're almost the same thing, with a few minor differences. either one is good tho. and yes i think the government should release it instead of LYING saying they will release it and then never releasing it. WHY SHOULD WE TRUST THE SONSOFBITCHES IF THEY LIE LIKE THAT? I'm sorry the government has to EARN my trust, and they should have to earn EVERYBODY's trust. I don't think people should naturally trust the government. Tell me why we should just naturally trust them?

[Silver]

well i think this country should be a republic...

[Undertow]

well i think this country should be a republic... but that's besides the fact. they're almost the same thing, with a few minor differences. either one is good tho. and yes i think the government should release it instead of LYING saying they will release it and then never releasing it. WHY SHOULD WE TRUST THE SONSOFBITCHES IF THEY LIE LIKE THAT? I'm sorry the government has to EARN my trust, and they should have to earn EVERYBODY's trust. I don't think people should naturally trust the government. Tell me why we should just naturally trust them?

Dude, if you dont like it here. You can always leave!

[Too Exclusive]

The question I put to you is why do you feel it is necessary for our government to spend the time to ease the minds of a few of you crackpots going through a prozac withdrawal?

See madcapp, the problem with that argument, is they've wasted TONS of time. but i guess u missed that in my statement. first of all, the cousin of the Secretary of Department of Homeland Security (Michael Chertoff), Benjamin Chertoff, wrote a HUGE article trying to debunk 9/11 conspiracy theories in a magazine called "Popular Mechanics." Penn & Teller dedicated one of their episodes of "Bullshit!" to conspiracy theories and trying to debunk them. So tell me how your argument of "government wasting their time" holds any water, considering they HAVE wasted a lot more time making all those conspiracy theory debunkings when all they have to do is release the evidence (Condy's evidence) and release those tapes? What do you think requires less time, writing numerous articles and making numerous TV shows trying to debunk conspiracy theories, or releasing the tapes and the evidence (that Condy said she would release)?

[Silver]

i wish you were banned you are a forum troll, you come here with the intentions to stir shit.

[Too Exclusive]

Why silver? He said the government shouldn't waste their time releasing that stuff to silence people like me. Now that would be a valid argument, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT THEY'VE MADE NUMEROUS DEBUNKING ARTICLES AND TV SHOWS FOR THE 9/11 CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

So all I'm saying is that they HAVE wasted their time. And they'd waste a lot less time if they would release those tapes? AM I WRONG? DOES IT TAKE MORE TIME/EFFORT TO RELEASE A VIDEO TAPE THAN IT DOES TO WRITE A MAGAZING ARTICLE OR MAKE A TV SHOW? I sure hope not.

[Silver]

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[Frosty]

Um, despite the connections you make, that is not the GOVERNMENT spending time doing things.... That is your assumption.

Our country is a republic. Although by misuse, "democracy" has now been extended to include republics, the difference originally was that in a democracy, there were no representatives elected.

And besides, the government does not have to prove itself clean. Something in those tapes may be an issue of national security, preventing their release. You have a preconceived notion that the Sheraton tape will reveal a missile and that Rice has no evidence, so you can see no other explanation for why they may not have been released.

[Too Exclusive]

well then why did she TELL US she would release the evidence... if she wasnt going to?

[Blakjak]

Who cares? I hate to be in tune with some of other fools that post here, but honestly, if you don't like how it is then leave. No one seems to care about your theories, whether conspiracy or not. Presenting them over and over and over again will not change the substance or content of your claims nor the validity of them. Give it a rest...

[Frosty]

well then why did she TELL US she would release the evidence... if she wasnt going to?

Perhaps she thought she would, and then was informed that she could not for national security reasons.