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post 09/01/05 3:29pm
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i only know what i have seen on cnn and fox and they didnt give it much positive attention... i might be wrong... sure aint the first time
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post 09/01/05 6:46pm
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Some off the most conservative people I know are in complete dissagreement with the PA and Bush's stance on Foreign policy. It's not just educated liberals.


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post 09/01/05 7:36pm
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QUOTE(Johnzillah @ 09/01/05 3:03pm)
I have said it before.

Bush is a GDP (Good Damn President)

I hate to be the one who points this out but most of you who come in here talking about this and bitching about it are the very ones now who are in college with Liberal Professors with a GD agenda. It was like that when went and hasnt changed since.
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i'm not liberal... i bash clinton too. i know shit that u conservatives could use against clinton that would give u a raging hard-on... and i do spread that. but clinton isn't the issue now, he was 5 years ago, but now bush is the issue. so please, refrain from calling me liberal smile.gif
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post 09/01/05 11:08pm
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history will judge long after we are gone

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post 09/01/05 11:57pm
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I just think that the police alone have to much power and no one to keep them in check.
the federal gov. need to back off and close our border till better restrictions and checks can be put in. and recheck and tripple check people on visa and arrest anyone that is illegal alien status
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post 09/02/05 12:49am
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QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 09/01/05 1:25pm)
new york times retard, not washington times.

Excuse me Mr. RETARD but here is the link you posted
http://www.infowars.com/print/patriot_act/alexs_analysis.htm
And here is the opening line
Congressman Ron Paul (R-Tex) told the Washington Times that no member of Congress was allowed to read the first Patriot Act that was passed by the House on October 27, 2001.

Did you not bother to read the page you linked to or were you simply unable to??
Please explain to me why you are calling me a retard saying it was the New York Times when it clearly says the Washington Times.




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post 09/02/05 11:08am
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QUOTE(Druid @ 09/01/05 1:51pm)
Jose Padilla who was arrested after his return flight from Pakistan where he meet with members of al-Qaeda who gave him money and bomb making plans. Information about Padilla came from the interrogation of a captured al-Qaeda leader who previously talked to Padilla about him possibly being used to build and set off a dirty bomb.
Of the 3 cases I find Padilla's the most interesting for several reasons.
The groups ( ACLU, some media outlets ) who has taken up his cause refuse to use his real name which is Abdullah al Muhajir. He legally changed it when he converted to Islam.
Why do these groups refuse to use his legal and chosen name?
Or how about the media reports where one newspaper describes him as a "juvenile delinquent" or another one talking about his "prison spell in Florida".
How about calling a convicted murderer, a convicted murderer versus talking about how he converted to Islam during his stay in a Florida prison without bothering to say what he was in prison for. Sorry but I find that very strange


Very intresting... never heard any of that. guess I dnt like all the cameras and stuff they are putting up. I know they are not taping them, but just makes me feel a little less privite and more under the microscope. not the way we should feel

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post 09/02/05 12:26pm
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QUOTE(Druid @ 09/02/05 12:49am)
QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 09/01/05  1:25pm)
new york times retard, not washington times.

Excuse me Mr. RETARD but here is the link you posted
http://www.infowars.com/print/patriot_act/alexs_analysis.htm
And here is the opening line
Congressman Ron Paul (R-Tex) told the Washington Times that no member of Congress was allowed to read the first Patriot Act that was passed by the House on October 27, 2001.

Did you not bother to read the page you linked to or were you simply unable to??
Please explain to me why you are calling me a retard saying it was the New York Times when it clearly says the Washington Times.
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wow... i coulda freakin sworn it said new york times... holy shit i musta been outta it. im sorry. and news sites DO take things down from their archives believe it or not, i've seen it happen, numerous times.
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um...before u report, u should get ur fact s straight. Will cause less embarassment for urself, & not give others a reason to rip ur ass apart....

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I normally don't get involved in topics such as this. I agree with Silver about our border situation...CLOSE IT indefinately... Why, because our fed. g'vment will let anyone in, even if illegally, deportation doesn't work 100%. They always seem to find their way back..FUCK "political correctness" where has that gotten us? Got us on the receiving end of major bombings, killing thousands & thousands. There really needs to be more restrictions on entering the US! But, then again, that wouldn't be P.C. IMO our "leaders" are as soft & nutless as a wet dishrag.


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post 09/02/05 2:07pm
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Yeah, If this was the 1940's there wouldnt be a bunch of towel heads roaming our streets. They would be in Internment camps. This country is so PC, When i went to pick my wife up at the airport, There was a group of about 8 with towels on there heads & long beards sitting in a circle outside one of the hanger's.......They work there!! That shocked me. I couldnt fathom hiring these people at an airport after what had happened on 9/11. I know thats not very PC of me, But WTF? Does it have to happen again to get the PC people to pull there heads outta there ass?


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post 09/02/05 5:59pm
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that mentallity is awful... so ur saying we should throw a million people in internment camps because the actions of 50? not EVERY muslim is a terrorist. most arent. it's just that the media portrays muslims as being ALL terrorists... which couldnt be further from the truth.
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post 09/02/05 6:06pm
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QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 09/02/05 6:59pm)
that mentallity is awful... so ur saying we should throw a million people in internment camps because the actions of 50? not EVERY muslim is a terrorist. most arent. it's just that the media portrays muslims as being ALL terrorists... which couldnt be further from the truth.
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Dude, i said im not PC,....Sorry. And your right not every muslim is a terrorist, but do you think the ones that are will tell you they are?

I'm allowed to be skeptical. Arent I?


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post 09/02/05 6:29pm
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i agree at this point.. how many muslims are helping us find and turning them in? works do well in the UK dont it
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post 09/09/05 12:24pm
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QUOTE(Silver @ 09/02/05 11:29pm)
i agree at this point.. how many muslims are helping us find and turning them in? works do well in the UK dont it
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I read that there are as many as 10,000 Muslims in the US Military. Ill bet most of them are doing more to find and turn them in than you are. whistling.gif

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