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post 10/07/05 4:23pm
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QUOTE(Bargod @ 10/07/05 4:35am) *

I hadn't thought about it before, TE, but UV is right. There are MANY people out there that have "evidence" and "proof" that the holocaust never happened. They say the rest of us just believe what we are told and that it is part of a larger conspiracy. And quite frankly, these two conspiracy intersect in Israel. So for you to get outrageously offended at one idea, but still think we are ignorant for not believing in your "conspiracy" is really just narrow mindedness on your part. We aren't the problem. People who pick and choose facts to fit their point of view are the problem, and, unfortunately for you, that's where you fit in.

i challenge ANYONE to show me a shred of evidence that the holocaust never existed. saying 9/11 was an inside job is saying there's a differnet murdered to a crime... saying the holocaust never happened is saying that those people NEVER went into those camps, and saying that the survivors got numbers tattooed on their arms after the war... there's a BIG difference in accusing somebody else of a crime than saying a crime never happened. we have a name for ppl who believe the holocaust doesn't exist, and it's NOT conspiracy theorists, it's neo-nazi anti-semetic fucks. and saying that i believe the holocaust doesn't exist is calling me a neo-nazi anti-semetic fuck, and i am in NO way shape or form racist.
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post 10/07/05 4:45pm
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QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 10/07/05 4:23pm) *

QUOTE(Bargod @ 10/07/05 4:35am) *

I hadn't thought about it before, TE, but UV is right. There are MANY people out there that have "evidence" and "proof" that the holocaust never happened. They say the rest of us just believe what we are told and that it is part of a larger conspiracy. And quite frankly, these two conspiracy intersect in Israel. So for you to get outrageously offended at one idea, but still think we are ignorant for not believing in your "conspiracy" is really just narrow mindedness on your part. We aren't the problem. People who pick and choose facts to fit their point of view are the problem, and, unfortunately for you, that's where you fit in.

i challenge ANYONE to show me a shred of evidence that the holocaust never existed. saying 9/11 was an inside job is saying there's a differnet murdered to a crime... saying the holocaust never happened is saying that those people NEVER went into those camps, and saying that the survivors got numbers tattooed on their arms after the war... there's a BIG difference in accusing somebody else of a crime than saying a crime never happened. we have a name for ppl who believe the holocaust doesn't exist, and it's NOT conspiracy theorists, it's neo-nazi anti-semetic fucks. and saying that i believe the holocaust doesn't exist is calling me a neo-nazi anti-semetic fuck, and i am in NO way shape or form racist.

Not that I agree with them, they are just rabble rousers, but they are saying a HOLOCAUST didn't happen. They aren't saying people weren't rounded up and put in camps and many even killed. They dispute the numbers since it can't be proved since most corpses were burned leaving only ash. So it's impossible to prove that as many Jews died as is claimed. That's the neo nazi arguement. Now, what you are doing is taking bits of circumstantial coincidences and saying they are fact and evidence of a coverup and conspiracy. The simplest explanation is always the correct explanation. The terrorists learned how to fly planes, but not land them. They were extremist muslims. They hijacked planes and flew them into buildings. Seems pretty straight forward.
Now, here's a conspiracy for you. TWA flight 800 shot down over Long Island Sound because they may have thought it had been hijacked and was going to be flown into a building. Many witnesses say they saw a missle strike it, but the NTSB said "no, just a malfunction." At least that conspiracy makes sense in the post 9/11 world.


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post 10/10/05 5:07am
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Now, what you are doing is taking bits of circumstantial coincidences and saying they are fact and evidence of a coverup and conspiracy.

now that's pretty much what the official story does... COMPLETELY based off HUGE coincidences... so if u believe the official story u believe a HUGE coincidence.
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post 10/10/05 10:09am
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I remember hearing about TWA 800. Civilians say they saw a rocket, officials say a 'bird" got sucked into the jetengine. (that's the way I heard it)


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post 10/18/05 10:27pm
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so what did you guys hear that makes u believe TWA flight 800 was shot down?
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post 10/20/05 4:06pm
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800???

its a navy test area near there and multiple vet's saw a missile come from the water and hit the plane, it went up then plumeted into the ocean... defying the laws of aerodynamic flight? there is a photo on the net (google impared) of a cruise missile flying under the wing of a airline over the desert (in the usa)... you could see the warning labels on it.... photo from inside the plane and all the passengers at the windows.... did the gov. shoot down 800? dont know... could it have been a missile from a terrorist???? maybe... they said (a witness) that it came from a smaller boat. that is what I remember about it.... regardless there is a cover up, the gov might not want people knowing that we were that secure, or give credit to them. the other plane after 9-11 that went down in NYC, I think was a little strange as well.... but the NTSB "know's more then GOD..." the people that put 800 back together saw many holes (like buckshot) in the area of the explosion. (this is what I remember, go ahead TE... school us.... huh.gif
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post 10/20/05 4:43pm
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Ask yourself this, why would the goverment spend thousands of dollars to shoot down one commercial airliner that is of no strategic importance what so ever. I know that conspiracy theorist out there have some fantastic answer for this question. So lets hear it.


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post 10/20/05 8:19pm
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heh... to tell you the truth guys, i don't know much about flight 800 at all =X that's y i asked :/
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post 10/21/05 6:05am
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QUOTE(Tyrant @ 10/20/05 5:43pm) *

Ask yourself this, why would the goverment spend thousands of dollars to shoot down one commercial airliner that is of no strategic importance what so ever. I know that conspiracy theorist out there have some fantastic answer for this question. So lets hear it.


if the us shot it down it was by accident, what I think is a terrorist group shot it down but the ntsb does not want people afraid to fly so they said it was something else, like a fuel line explosion.... a plane with out a nose to break through the air making it aero dynamic would drop like a brick... not fly higher...
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post 10/21/05 11:17am
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its not that i think the dudes a nut job for questioning the governemt...i think hes a nut job for how outrageous his claim is...this guys' a fucktard



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just remember people, when your house burns down...its not because you left a candle burning all night, or you dropped your cig on the carpet....george bush did it!!! blame him



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post 10/21/05 7:51pm
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I dont doubt that the navy MAY have accidently shot down an airliner or like 100's of witnesses saw a "flare" reach out from a boat and hit (that point they think it was a missile) TWA FLT 800. it was around 13000 feet above the water 3000 outside of handheld range.... but.... thats really not that far outside the range.... i could see the NTSB not wanting to tell people that a rocket hit the plane. they do it in the east, Iraq, afganistan, isreal etc... the plane had to be flying lower because another plane was going above it. I dont really consider consipracy theories BUT Flight 800 really does make sense. There is a pic on the net (which i cant find now) of a tomahawk cruise missile flying REALLY CLOSE to a airliner in the same direction. if that happens well.... why not consider it? most avation experts (so far as i know) consider the NTSB's version of the impact and the related upword turn then dive to be unreliable and areodynamically not possible. a plane w/o a nose cone let alone without a cabin etc... to be able to fly up gaining speed then dive down and crash into the water... nahhh... make a paper airplane and fly it, crush the end of the plane up then toss it again. it didnt go up.... more like tossing a brick. shit ask behemoth, he flys the lil planes around...
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post 10/30/05 10:08am
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It really doesn't matter who shot it down, if it was shot down at all. It happend years ago and Im sure the families of those who died would like to stop talking about simply because they would like to move on in their lives, instead of constantly talk about the greatest tragedy of their lives.


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