getting kicked for silly reasons... Options

[51ja1son]

and again, his name isnt jason.

Since when did we start talking in the 3rd person? And does it reall matter, you understood who was being spoken to, correct?????

im not referring to myself in the 3rd person. im saying his name, eso, isnt jason.
mine is. and i really dont care how you spell it.
i only understood cuz eso kept talking hah.

We have 3 CoD2 servers sponsored by serverxtreme.com

Each and every area51 member autoassigns when they join a public server....end of story.

On a similar note, despite what you might think, i for one ALWAYS change teams to make them more even.

I realize this is "your server, and you can do with it what you please" but continuing to kick high caliber players will ensure that the level of competition remains mediocre at best, and quite frankly is childish and petty.

1. if you have 3 servers, then why dont you play on them? hmmm....

2. You all auto assign? thats bullshit because EVERY MAP you all are on the same teams, ALWAYS.

3. I have never seen you switch sides, even when an admin has asked.

4. It is our server, so either comply with a request made by an admin or be kicked. it is quite straight-forward.

1. because one is an SD scrim server, two are now for CTF scrims. we have two for CTF cuz one will mess up so we use the other.
2. read my long post. i explained that. some of us have better computers than others in 51 so we join at different speeds. most people purposely choose allies for the "better guns". so when we auto, we get put on axis usually.
3. you also arent always in the server. when we are asked to swith sides, which we hardly ever are when im on, the teams are usually even so we cant.
4. when we have been kicked, or atleast when i have been kicked, no reason was given prior to the kicking.

This post has been edited by 51ja1son: 01/06/06 3:41pm

[Maj. H8Red]

If the one CTF server keeps "messing up" why
1.) do you still have it
2.) not change the gametype


Why not make one TDM? Just trying to understand

This post has been edited by Maj. H8Red: 01/06/06 3:47pm

[blk96gt]

Why does it matter if they want to play on {MOB}'s server? I mean if a clan is playing on yours instead of theirs, you should be happy. They are helping to keep it populated, as long as they follow the rules.

I understand that there are always two sides to a story, but it seems to me as of late there have been a number of people who are getting kicked without any sort of explanation. I don't have any say in what goes on here anymore, but I know when we used to ban people from Goodfellas, they would at least get a reason. If the admin was asked why he would or wouldn't do something, they would give a reason, or at least I would. I've been in {MOB} servers where people have been kicked/banned without being given any sort of warning, and to me that's the wrong way to go about it.

[.51.Eso]

The issue here is not changing teams when they become "stacked". As i've stated REPEATEDLY, i have no problem at all changing teams when they become unfair, especially when asked to do so by an admin. 95% of the time when we are in your server, most/all of MOB jump into spec immediately. I'm sure at some point while we're on we are asked to change teams or something to that effect. What you STILL fail to realize is that the rest of the server can NOT hear you while in spec, so your pleas for a fair game fall on deaf ears.

Once again, reading comprehension is key here: I agree that all of 51 on 1 team would be ludicrous, because quite frankly noone else that plays on your server can deal with it. However kicking without a warning is just as ignorant. You do realize that admins are able to change a player's team right?

Similarly, i'm not saying that "just because we hit auto-assign, it makes team stacking all the time alright". Please don't put words in my mouth. The rare occasion that a high percentage of our players end up on 1 team should not result in immediate kicking/banning etc... As guests in your server we have a right to play alongside our own team from time to time as well. What i meant by my comment about auto-assign is simply that SOMETIMES we will end up on the same team, and that's really not as big a problem as everyone is making it out to be.

I'm not sure why i continue to waste my time with this thread....i guess i'm just a sucker for e-drama

This post has been edited by .51.Eso: 01/06/06 4:31pm

[Undertow]

Why does it matter if they want to play on {MOB}'s server? I mean if a clan is playing on yours instead of theirs, you should be happy. They are helping to keep it populated, as long as they follow the rules.

Cuz they are so good they are running some people off & some {MOB} members that pay for the server will not play at all when they join. Basically the fun is gone for everyone except them when they arrive. And from what it sounds like they arent following the rules. It appears they have been asked not to team stack often & ignore it. Even Jason said in the one post "and i must not have been there when the public was complaining about team stacking cuz i never saw any complaints. unless they did it when they were dead or team chat.
" Which to me makes it sound like the teams were stacked. If they werent, then when someone complained about it in team chat why wouldnt one of their member's have known & then would have told his mates on TS or Vent (W/E they use). Not that anyone did say anything, I wasnt there. But that statment Jason made leads me to believe they were all on the same team & would not have known if anyone did communicate in team chat cuz no 51 was on the opposite team.

[51ja1son]

Why does it matter if they want to play on {MOB}'s server? I mean if a clan is playing on yours instead of theirs, you should be happy. They are helping to keep it populated, as long as they follow the rules.

Cuz they are so good they are running some people off & some {MOB} members that pay for the server will not play at all when they join. Basically the fun is gone for everyone except them when they arrive. And from what it sounds like they arent following the rules. It appears they have been asked not to team stack often & ignore it. Even Jason said in the one post "and i must not have been there when the public was complaining about team stacking cuz i never saw any complaints. unless they did it when they were dead or team chat.
" Which to me makes it sound like the teams were stacked. If they werent, then when someone complained about it in team chat why wouldnt one of their member's have known & then would have told his mates on TS or Vent (W/E they use). Not that anyone did say anything, I wasnt there. But that statment Jason made leads me to believe they were all on the same team & would not have known if anyone did communicate in team chat cuz no 51 was on the opposite team.

youre reading too far into this. IF we were all on the same team, which i admit does happen with the auto assigning, IF they talked to us in team chat we couldnt have seen it. but i have no idea what this example is about cuz i wasnt there for it IF it did happen. dont try to twist my words to your fitting.

and about the talking while specing/dead thing, when the thing with my last kick was going on, there was a time that i did see the member that kicked me talk while he was dead, in response to a person that wasnt dead at the time.

If the one CTF server keeps "messing up" why
1.) do you still have it
2.) not change the gametype


Why not make one TDM? Just trying to understand

because the person in charge of that has a busy life outside of CoD and the clan. other things are higher on his priority list. he pays for it all for us so we try not to complain much. beggars cant be choosers. this guy is one of the founders of the clan BTW, not some random person hah

[Bargod]

Ahhh, see, this may be why you are having such a hard time understanding why people get upset. You see, we all chip in for our servers. We have our own box that we run 3 CODUO and 1 COD2 server on. That's a hefty chunk we have to pay for each month. Therefore, everyone that contributes has the right to say what they want, and some of them are pissed.

[XYZ Factor]

READ ME and play close attention to the part about "disrupting our servers".

[Undertow]

dont try to twist my words to your fitting.

I wasnt twisting your words around. I quoted exactley what you said. Bottom line, if your all on axis you wont see allies team chat! ......right?

IF they talked to us in team chat we couldnt have seen it.

If you werent team stacking at least one of your members WOULD have seen it. heh & meh back at ya!

This post has been edited by Undertow: 01/06/06 9:13pm

[51ja1son]

Ahhh, see, this may be why you are having such a hard time understanding why people get upset. You see, we all chip in for our servers. We have our own box that we run 3 CODUO and 1 COD2 server on. That's a hefty chunk we have to pay for each month. Therefore, everyone that contributes has the right to say what they want, and some of them are pissed.

thats cool that everyone chips in. but i have no problem understanding why people get upset, because people dont like being killed a lot. thats the only reason i see really.
i DONT understand though why some people are pissed. id prefer not to argue with you though, youve been cool with me.

READ ME and play close attention to the part about "disrupting our servers".

really, how do we disrupt the server?
aside from team stacking which i think eso and myself have explained pretty well.


my main reason for this thread was to ask why we get kicked for trivial reasons such as a bind that says good game, and why arent we given a reason. i always have to come back and ask why. yes you can say you dont have to give a reason really since it is your server. but that would be kind of assholeish in my opinion. and i think thats not necessary since none of us, save for one that i know of, really havent been disrespecftul to you (all of MOB) individually, aside from playing on your (all of MOB) server and some of you not liking us for that reason.

If you werent team stacking at least one of your members WOULD have seen it. heh & meh back at ya!

you do have a point
but we cant change it when we dont see it

i really have nothing against you guys. i just want to not be kicked anymore

[XYZ Factor]

really, how do we disrupt the server?
aside from team stacking which i think eso and myself have explained pretty well.

Well the fact (which has been said on a FEW occassions) that some MOB and Regs wont play on the server when 51 is on, sounds to me like a disruption.

I have said very little, if any, after my original post. MOB spoke its mind and said that you guys are staying. I did not agree with them choosing to have you guys play on the server instead of their own, but that is not my place to say. It is their server and they do whatever they please. I understand and have to abide by their decisions.

I just thought I would chime in to remind a few about a statement I made a few weeks back after a few cold ones. I don't intend to add any fuel to these petty arguements but I guess I did. SORRY.

[51ja1son]

really, how do we disrupt the server?
aside from team stacking which i think eso and myself have explained pretty well.

Well the fact (which has been said on a FEW occassions) that some MOB and Regs wont play on the server when 51 is on, sounds to me like a disruption.

I have said very little, if any, after my original post. MOB spoke its mind and said that you guys are staying. I did not agree with them choosing to have you guys play on the server instead of their own, but that is not my place to say. It is their server and they do whatever they please. I understand and have to abide by their decisions.

I just thought I would chime in to remind a few about a statement I made a few weeks back after a few cold ones. I don't intend to add any fuel to these petty arguements but I guess I did. SORRY.

how come they wont paly with us? im really curious. not trying to start anything.


on another note, cross was just kicked with no warning. he wasnt talking or anything.

[.51.GoneMAD]

just to let you know if you type something in spectator OR when you are dead.. live players CANNOT READ WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.. you guys love to talk in spec to us and we dont see it at all.. only one time have i seen anyone ask us to not clan stack (that was mentioned in the 2nd post i think with the guy not using his tags).. and almost every round there will be like 5 51 members on 1 team nad 2 on the other.. thats not clan stacking.. its auto assigning... i for one usually sit and wait a minute before hitting auto assign.. i just leave hte menu up.. then i click it.. so maybe thats why we think we stare at the score board waiting for the teams to be uneven.. that is very untrue... and like jaison says the majority of people in the server will pick american or russian.. leaving the people who autoassign to go to german.. and im not going to sit and constantly check the teams to see if i can switch over.. i autoassign and stay with that team unless it gets really unbalanced.. ( like 9 v 5 or something)

and once again i will state how we cannot read anything said in spec or when you are dead.. use /rcon say or be alive when trying to tell us to split up the teams.. cuz we will if you tell us... its just we never see any of the messages you guys type unless we happen to catch a line when we are dead

either that or enable the dead chat feature.. i forget the dvar for it tho

[BULLET]

Look, this whole thing is BS. You guys know theres a problem .Some members dont want you here.That is most likely why you have been being kicked . You guys are damn good and there is a couple of you that just totally dominate. It gets a little frustrating sometimes with out 51 in the game.When some of you come in it out right becomes humiliating.That is not fun. And if some of us in the clan feel that way,Im sure there are others in the game feeling the same way. This may not be healthy for our server.......Please dont respond!!!!!!! .Put an end to this thread !!!!!!!!!

[51ja1son]

Look, this whole thing is BS. You guys know theres a problem .Some members dont want you here.That is most likely why you have been being kicked . You guys are damn good and there is a couple of you that just totally dominate. It gets a little frustrating sometimes with out 51 in the game.When some of you come in it out right becomes humiliating.That is not fun. And if some of us in the clan feel that way,Im sure there are others in the game feeling the same way. This may not be healthy for our server.......Please dont respond!!!!!!! .Put an end to this thread !!!!!!!!!

some of you have said you want good, skilled players on your server. so youre saying we may have been kicked for being too good?

you cant say we kill your server either, which i realize you just didnt, but it has been brought up. we've brough other skilled players to your server and its almost always full.