A GRIPE ABOUT COD2 Options

[51ja1son]

Hohoho, just wait till you see my config jai

lawl

i thought yours just consisted of a bag of oranges

[Revelations]

computers have a lot to do with this game too. my comp sucks and i often lag and just move slow 85% of the time. i cant use the m1 cuz i cant move quick enough. and watchin that aim bot is like watchin 51 guys haha, except they are for real

[ScarFace]

if you think someone can live after a headshot in either COD or COD2 you are nuts.

COD2 you won't kill anyone with a SINGLE shot to the head with these weapons; thompson, ppsh, pps42, and sten.


Don't believe me? Here are the ACTUAL damage tables from COD2.

DamageMax/Min MaxDamageRange/MinDamageRange fireTime
bar_mp 40/40 1500/2500 0.11
bren_mp 40/40 1500/2500 0.12
mp44_mp 40/40 1500/2500 0.12

greasegun_mp 45/10 1000/2000 0.12
thompson_mp 35/10 800/1500 0.0857
mp40_mp 45/10 1000/2000 0.12
pps42_mp 35/10 1000/2000 0.0857
ppsh_mp 35/20 1000/2000 0.067
sten_mp 35/10 1000/2000 0.1

shotgun_mp 50/5 (8 per blast) 384/800

m1carbine_mp 45/45 1500/2500
m1garand_mp 45/45 2000/3000
g43_mp 45/45 2000/3000
svt40_mp 45/45 2000/3000

enfield_mp 90/90 2000/3000
enfield_scope_mp 90/90 2000/3000
kar98k_mp 90/90 2000/3000
kar98k_sniper_mp 90/90 2000/3000
mosin_nagant_mp 90/90 2000/3000
mosin_nagant_sniper 90/90 2000/3000
springfield_mp 90/90 2000/3000

colt_mp 45/10 384/800
luger_mp 45/10 384/800
tt30_mp 45/10 384/800
webley_mp 45/10 384/800


And these are the DAMAGE multipliers


m1carbine, g43 and svt40
locNone\1\locHelmet\3\locHead\3\locNeck\2\locTorsoUpper\2\locTorsoLower\1\locRightArmUpper\

m1garand
locNone\1\locHelmet\3\locHead\3\locNeck\2\locTorsoUpper\2\locTorsoLower\2\locRightArmUpper\

bolts rifles
locNone\1\locHelmet\3\locHead\3\locNeck\1.5\locTorsoUpper\1.5\locTorsoLower\1.5\locRightArmUpper\

snipers
locNone\1\locHelmet\3\locHead\3\locNeck\1.5\locTorsoUpper\1.5\locTorsoLower\1.5\locRightArmUpper\


all smg's
locNone\1\locHelmet\3\locHead\3\locNeck\1.5\locTorsoUpper\1\locTorsoLower\1\locRightArmUpper\
**basically, one headshot kills from any gun except the thompson, ppsh, pps42, and sten. (35 x 3 = 105 which is less than 120)**

shotgun
locNone\1\locHelmet\1\locHead\1\locNeck\1\locTorsoUpper\1\locTorsoLower\1\locRightArmUpper\1\

all mg
locNone\1\locHelmet\3\locHead\3\locNeck\1.5\locTorsoUpper\1\locTorsoLower\1\locRightArmUpper\1\
pistols
locNone\1\locHelmet\2.5\locHead\2.5\locNeck\1.5\locTorsoUpper\1\locTorsoLower\1\locRightArmUpper\1\

This post has been edited by ScarFace: 01/27/06 7:05pm

[51ja1son]

actually, one head shot from those guns can kill a person. they all do more damage than a pistol, if not the same, and a pistol shot will kill people in one shot now.
they didnt in vcod

[Bargod]

No headshot will kill anyone when you have a 13 FPS. Cuz you didn't hit them. That's my problem, tho. God bless my Geforce2GTS. At least I have fun dieing. Or not.
OK. At least that's why I enjoy killing people far better than me at a 1:8 ratio. Yeah, that's about right.

[51ja1son]

No headshot will kill anyone when you have a 13 FPS. Cuz you didn't hit them. That's my problem, tho. God bless my Geforce2GTS. At least I have fun dieing. Or not.
OK. At least that's why I enjoy killing people far better than me at a 1:8 ratio. Yeah, that's about right.

haha poor guy

[ScarFace]

actually, one head shot from those guns can kill a person. they all do more damage than a pistol, if not the same, and a pistol shot will kill people in one shot now.
they didnt in vcod

Alright go back and read what I wrote. The weapons that I listed do 35 damage per shot MAXIMUM. Each player has 120 health. The mutiplier for head shots is 3. Now lets do some math(for those smgs
), 3 X 35 = 105 120-105=15= you are still alive.

This post has been edited by ScarFace: 01/28/06 6:58pm

[51ja1son]

actually, one head shot from those guns can kill a person. they all do more damage than a pistol, if not the same, and a pistol shot will kill people in one shot now.
they didnt in vcod

Alright go back and read what I wrote. The weapons that I listed do 35 damage per shot MAXIMUM. Each player has 120 health. The mutiplier for head shots is 3. Now lets do some math(for those smgs
), 3 X 35 = 105 120-105=15= you are still alive.

its still possible for ANY weapon to kill someone with a single headshot.

[Druid]

Scarface is correct, any weapon with less than 40 damage can't kill in a single shot.
Be aware, many servers are using the powerserver mod or another one much like it.
Either one of these allow the admin to change the default weapon damage without the player knowing the weapon damamge settings have been changed.


For the cheating argument.
My opinion, take it or leave it is, the people who cry cheat are just as big of a problem as the actual cheaters, if not more.
I'll give you several examples of why I think this.
1) I'm originally from MOHAA. When mohaa 1st came out their were accusations flying all the time about aimbots. Fact is, there wasn't a working aimbot for mohaa until 3 maybe 4 months after the game's release.
That fact didn't stop anyone from crying about aimbots those 1st 3 or 4 months.
2) On the IW nation forum there is a topic talking about how many cheats have been downloaded for COD2.
The number was around 10,000. Everyone who wants to cry cheat because they got owned in a server use that number to claim there are 10,000 cheaters playing COD2. Guess what... Thats bullshit.
Look at it from a little bigger perspective.
A cheater isn't going to download 1 cheat and call it good, they are going to download them all to test them out. If you have 10,000 downloads, then split that between a dozen different cheat files. Your number is now under 850 cheaters downloading cheats. Guess what... thats still bullshit
You also have to include in that 10,000+ downloads, the number of times the cheat has been updated and downloaded again.
You also have to include the fact a certain percentage of people will download a cheat to see how it works & never use it during MP.
You also have to include how many people have downloaded every cheat to send to Activision/evenbalance so it will be included in PB when released. Also in that same number is the ones Evenbalance downloaded themselves when testing PB for it's COD2 release.
Cheating isn't near as rampant in COD2 as people try to make it out to be.
3) Then there is always the people who talk about the phantom\private cheats. During the time everyone was bitching about no PB in the game there was also the group of people talking about how PB doesn't do anything because it only blocks public cheats. This is true but most private cheats work the same way, it would have to be something completely new and yet unreleased otherwise PB would still likely block it.
PB goes beyond the simple md5 check of files.
For those why still want to ramble on about private cheats, I have this question.
Can YOU write a cheat to get by PB?
If the answer is no, then why the hell do you think everyone is doing just that.
I'm sure there is a limited number of people who write their own cheats that PB can't detect.
Just keep it in perspective, it's going to be such a minuscule number you will likely never run into them.

[51ja1son]

druid, you smart motherfucker

im still pretty sure ive killed someone with a single pistol shot to the head.

druid: hit me up on xfire too, theres an anti-cheat out. whenever i go to message you, youre afk

This post has been edited by 51ja1son: 01/29/06 1:25am

[Revelations]

its eiher im complety drumk or i have the bigges head in the game. im tellikn yopui i only die from a head shot, whether it be a smg or a fuckin pistol everuyeath is a head shot. haha. i odnt know, i have almost as man rounds as everyone and i still aint good, but i still balacne my tim ewiht school and bball pracice, why aitn i good yet??? haha i dontk now, i blame mhy comp.

[Druid]

you may of very well killed somone with a single pistol shot to the head.
what you don't know is what happen to the guy before you shot him, it's likely he wasn't at full health.

Also...
Before anyone gets to excited about the anti-cheat jaison mentioned, it's not built in the game.
It requires every client to downlaod and install the ac. It's probably a decent AC program but without built-in support in the game, it won't work well in a public server. It's aimed more at match play.

[Revelations]

well druid, so be it, what can youdo about public play right?

[51ja1son]

you may of very well killed somone with a single pistol shot to the head.
what you don't know is what happen to the guy before you shot him, it's likely he wasn't at full health.

Also...
Before anyone gets to excited about the anti-cheat jaison mentioned, it's not built in the game.
It requires every client to downlaod and install the ac. It's probably a decent AC program but without built-in support in the game, it won't work well in a public server. It's aimed more at match play.

he was at full health... it was a team mate

im gunna test this out today.

[Nothing]

Hey Scar,

If you look at my post I mentioned that I had him in my scope. I use the scoped Karosk. The problem was that He was there in the window looking out and I had him dead on. I seen the bullet hit him and take damage but he did not die. This is what makes me believe he was using some type of armor that decreases the damage to him from me or some type of extra health cheat. There is many possibliities, but I am sure he was cheating.