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Druid
post 03/07/09 8:01pm
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Well, about a year has gone by since MOB moved to their new more secure website. I though it would be fun to look back on all the little lies, manipulations an acts of stupidity which prompted the website move. Then take a closer look at some of the lies, manipulations an acts of stupidity which took place after the move an still continue to this very day. I ask you, is there any better way to celebrate this important anniversary?
The single biggest problem is I don't know where to start. There has been so many examples, ranging from little white lies all the way to killer sized tsunami waves of stupidity and pettiness.
I guess the best place to start would be a review of what has already been covered, that way anyone who is needs to, can catch up if they're interested.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=16643
Then of course there is my personal favorite, the "NEW AND IMPROVED" sever rules to go along with their new website.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=16689
I don't think the next one is quite as funny but I find it very telling that even now, a whole year later, not a single person has been able to point out anything I said which wasn't the truth.
So I give you "Druid the master manipulator"
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=16716

Now that I've covered all the old humorous dirty dealings that went on behind the scenes. I find myself unsure of where to start. While the majority of this will be to poke fun at the new MOB leadership, it brings up a serious point concerning the original MOB leadership.
Right after the new Admins moved the website, RealDeal contacted them about removing the main page. Which BTW he had every right to do, as he paid for an did the original customization to the theme and template the site was based on. Mike tried his best to get in a pissing match with RealDeal, claiming RD had no right to request the main page on the new sight to be removed. Mike flat out refused to do it because as he put it "RealDeal had never legally registered any copyright". Big talk coming from Mike but long story short, Mike was a good little boy an did exactly as he was told. In less than 48hrs, the copied website material was removed. Unlike most everything else which I bring up in fun, I bring this up for a serious reason. I know right after this happened there was a discussion about RealDeal. Lot's of stupid remarks made about him. I also know few people stuck up for him as they discussed with me how disappointed they were with what was being said concerning RealDeal.
For those who knew RealDeal and had the balls to stick up for him, good for you. This doesn't concern a lot of people in MOB because many are newer members and don't know RealDeal, so I wouldn't expect you to side one way or the other. After all, the current admins did a fantastic job of keeping most of you in the dark about what was going on and why. This is for those few people who have been around long enough to know RD deserved better, but lacked the balls to stand up an say so. Who needs enemies with friends like you. For those few people who still don't get it, I'll let you in on a little secret. Although RealDeal had quit the clan a long time ago, he frequently lurked the forums ( private and public ) so he knew what was going on. Although we didn't discuss it beforehand, I doubt he made his request about removing the website material copied from this site to the new one because he particularly cared about. I think he did it as a show of loyalty to me, because he knew the false accusations an stupid excuses used by the current admins were bullshit. What you so conveniently failed chose to overlook is he's the kind of guy who would have done the exact same thing for you if you had found yourself in my position. So remember and think about this for those who didn't have the balls to speak up for RealDeal, without a doubt, he would have done better by you than you did by him.
For the newer players who this doesn't directly concern, remember this. There would be no MOB today if it wasn't for RealDeal who keep the clan running through several difficult times. Plus the fact he paid to keep the servers open even when he knew he was about to leave. Some of you have been around for a long time and never or rarely donated to keep MOB going.
While RealDeal paid out $600 over his last two month to keep the servers open because he wanted to give MOB a chance to survive. How did people repay him? Took it upon themselves to make up reason why he didn't deserve something as minor as a forum account on the new site.
( I know there are some people who can't financially afford to regularly donate, full time students living on a razor thin budget, that's understandable, I'm talking to the other people. )
Some of you and I'm sure you know who I'm talking about, are nothing but fucking ingrates. So be sure to wear that badge with pride because you've earned it.
I would really love for someone with enough backbone to explain something to me. How is it Silver who created so many problems his last few months with MOB. Then continued to create even more problems after leaving had his account validated without a second thought. Yet, Realdeal the only founding member still around who only asked Mike to removed the website template ( which RD had every right to do ), was quickly deemed unworthy to have a measly forum account validated.
And just think, you guys still call yourselves MOB.



Now that we've got that bit of nastiness out of the way, we can focus on the more humorous aspects of the NEW & IMPROVED MOB "Year end Review"

Most individuals or groups set themselves apart from everyone else through their originality. The difference with the new and improved MOB is they set themselves apart by their almost total lack of originality. No, I'm not talking about the prime example of how they still call themselves MOB even after they turned their back on most of the things which made MOB the great clan it used to be. That's okay, as it's a source of great entertainment for me. I'm actually talking about all little things such as:
* Mike and Steel crying about how they didn't copy the website when they moved it. Here we are a year later and the code of conduct is still almost word for word what RD wrote over 6 years ago. Even though much of it no longer applies like it did when it was written, the only change Steel made is removing the part which said "Remember.... FUN and FRIENDS are ALWAYS more important than winning!!"
Why did she did she remove something as positive and timeless as "Remember.... FUN and FRIENDS are ALWAYS more important than winning!!". The reason is simple. After I mentioned how that's what MOB use to be about, she threw one of her little hissy fits she's gotten to be so famous for. So, out of childish spitefulness she removes that line from the code of conduct. You have to admit it's pretty damn funny one of the few examples of Steel showing any originality after moving the website was to remove the motto from the code of conduct page. I really wish someone over at the New & Improved MOB had the balls to put Steel on the spot an ask why she felt the need to remove MOB's Motto.
How could she possibly answer the question without making a fool of herself?
* Although this one no longer exist, it was one of my favorites. Did anyone else notice after the move, the "Files" link on the front page of the new site didn't work? For 8 months the main page had a broken "Files" link on the top navigation bar. The reason this was so funny is because when she made the link it was already bad. So you tell me how incredibly funny is it Steel took the time to make a "Files" link on the new site just because there was one at mobclan.com even though the link was bad. Then even better, she didn't bother to fix it for 8 months.
* The Regs which have always been an important part of MOB, wouldn't exist if it hadn't been for me. So tell me again exactly what original idea you've brought to MOB which made it better? Oh that's right, you guys did come up with that stupid idea about people wearing the MR tags for 30 days then automatically brought into the regs. One of your few original ideas and it was such a disaster you finally did away with it. I got a huge laugh when I was told about a welcome post on your forum for a Reg who had never posted on the forum and according to the game tracker had only been on the server for a total of 11 hours. Could you guys look or act any more desperate than to make someone a Reg that quickly. Did you guys take any time to consider the implications? The Regs use to be important, the backbone of MOB. The quick nearly automatic inclusion you guys were doing watered down the value of being a REG to almost nothing.
* It cracks me up that the private password to the servers is still set to the same password I set over 3 years ago. Then again it's not like the private password is important anymore. Out of 6 servers, not a single one gets full, so it would be kind of pointless to change it. I remember back when one of the best parts of being a REG was getting the private password to the servers, because you could get right even when the servers were full.
* I see you still use the user group colors RealDeal setup 5 years ago ( Red for Regs and Blue for MOB ). Not that it's a big deal, just one of those things I find funny.
Pretty much the same thing with the forum itself. You started over form scratch with a new forum but did your best to copy everything exactly as possible from the forums at MOBclan. It always amuses me whenever I check the new forum an see the Opera section which started out as my personal forum to poke fun at the stupidity going on in the gaming world. You know, kind of like this. So while we're on the subject, please do me a favor an add a link to this post in your Opera section.
Thank You.





Shred & BLAM

Here is a little sampling of the dishonest dealings involving Shred and Company. Before we get into this one I feel the need to explain something. I understand some of the simpletons who read this will fall back to the position, I'm only saying this because Shred and I are both ex-MOB so I would automatically take his side. Not only is that bullshit, it's just plain stupid. The only reason you jump to that conclusion is because you'll gotten so use to making excuses for MOB's current leadership, it's become 2nd nature for you. There are several issues Shred and I disagree on. For example, Shred and I have a huge disagreement concerning Silver. Also, I previously said in public , I thought he was wrong in the way he handled things in the weeks following his departure from MOB ( complaining about it on the BsS forum, etc. ). While Shred may have handled the situation poorly, in all fairness to Shred it never should have been an issue to start with.
Do you guys remember what started the whole thing with Shred,
Mike confronted Shred about the server he was running, implied Shred shouldn't do it if he wanted to stay in MOB. Then in discussion with the rest of MOB, Mike goes on to say that Shred was practically stealing donations from MOB because he was accepting donations for his server. Important point here which was purposefully left out, Shred never saw a dime. He had donations setup so they went directly to the company hosting the server. The same server people in MOB were playing on and was setup when needed for a MOB TWL match. So I ask you exactly where is the problem? But when it was discussed with the rest of MOB, it was clearly implied he was trying to make money from using the MOB name in his server. Which as I already pointed out, was total bullshit.
What's really stupid is every time anyone questions how an admin handles a situation, their 1st response is to act all offended that someone would question what they did. Throw back into any one's face who questions them, how they do all this work for MOB. Yet, here we have Shred who was not only willing but interested in learning the server side but was flat out told no. So yes he was pissed, but he had a reason to be.
In summary, here are the lies that lead up to Mike confronting Shred about his server and why his server had to go if Shred was to stay in MOB.
Oh wait, I know some people get their panties all in a bind if I call what they do "lies". So let me use NEW admins preferred terminology.
Lies are not lies, they are convenient, self serving misrepresentations of factual events.
According to Mike's "convenient, self serving misrepresentations of factual events"
1) All servers should be on the dedicated box MOB rents.
Bullshit. Did you forget about this?
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...c=12681&hl=
MOB took over the MW server and it wasn't moved to the dedicated box for months. ( BTW the server was only moved after Steel threw a tempter tantrum after someone asked about the lack of private slots, more on that later )
2) People shouldn't run their own servers as it causes problems.
Bullshit. Did you forget about this?
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...c=13121&hl=
Mike didn't care when Steel ran a server outside of MOB's box, so it wasn't a big deal. Once you accept that fact, then it becomes apparent the ONLY issue was WHO was running the server. If you think I'm wrong, then I would love you to explain this. When Steel decides to close the (MOB) fly planes server which she ran on her own just like shred, what was Mike's immediate response?
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...c=13609&hl=
Again without any discussion with the rest of MOB or moments hesitation Mike decides to move the server onto MOB's dedicated box.
Not that I have an problem with Mike doing that, it was probably the right thing to do. My question is why wasn't the same thing done for Shred's server if the only issue was it being operated outside of MOB's control or not on MOB's dedicated server. I'm sure the Admin apologist will find someway to explain this away just like every other issue. To me, I think it's clear to anyone who has more than a few brains cells to rub together, the ONLY issue was WHO was running the server.
All admit this next part is only my personal conclusion but it's based on my knowledge of what was going on behind the scenes at the time. I only bring it up because it's important to explain WHY I think Shred was dealt with the way he was.
http://mobclan.com/druid/Shred_ignore.jpg
In one of the private discussions which took place after NC, Axel, and Bloodhound was banned, Mike said he was unhappy with Shred's post. Mike was disappointed that Shred, such a new member to MOB should have attacked another MOB member much less an "ADMIN" like Steel. Personally if you go back an read the post it comes across as a joke not an attack but that's not how Mike saw it. Mike may have also been influenced by the fact Shred was friends with NC, Axel, and Bloodhound an spoke out in their defense. Either way, it's my personal opinion that post by Shred may have been the beginning of the end for him.
I'm sure some people are shaking their heads, thinking to themselves
"that's plain stupid, the admins aren't so petty they would hold a grudge against him over a forum post, especially one where it looks more like an attempt at humor than an attack"
Well it you think some of your admins aren't petty enough to do just that, then you're either extremely naive or simply stupid. I will happily show just how petty they are but 1st there is one last controversy surrounding Blam I would like to clear up.
This has to do with the Blam member who was banned over at the new MOB site. Allegedly while in the process of validating the persons forum account it some how mysteriously started a download onto the admins computer. While it's beyond silly for someone to make such a claim, for right now I'll stick with what I found as glaring inconsistencies when this subject was brought up.
I would simply link to the forum post over at the New-N-Improved MOB site but their forum suffers from this strange problem where any post which may bring into question something a Admin says or does has a habit of disappearing. So just in case their forum conveniently suffers from the disappearing topic problem AGAIN, here are copies of the post in question.
Page 1
http://mobclan.com/druid/Blam_Ban_1.htm
Page 2
http://mobclan.com/druid/Blam_Ban_2.htm
Here are some of the inconsistencies I found when the Admin's replied to the question.
1) The admins were asked to explain how this phantom download happen and were unable to. They couldn't even say what the download was like. Was it a graphical like a game loading screen, was it a text message. They couldn't remember anything about it, only that it happened. Suddenly they were as forgetful as some senile senior, wandering around asking where am I? I'll be nice an give them the benefit of the doubt on this one, since some of the MOB admins are senior citizens and probably prone to bouts of forgetfulness.
2) The admins were asked to supply this phantom download link as proof but wouldn't/couldn't
3) During both the public discussion and private replies with Blam members, the admins said the ban had nothing to do with Blam. The MOB admins made it a point to claim this had nothing to do with Blam, they plead their innocence stating they didn't even know it was a Blam member. This would be another stupid lie because if they didn't know this was a Blam member or had anything to do with BLAM as they so innocently try to proclaim. Then why did the ban message when the person returned to the forum say "He was banned because of a BLAM download"
4) In the private discussion with Blam after this happened, again the admins claimed there was no way they could have know the person was a Blam member. This would be another lie, the only information a forum admin has to go when deciding to either validate or deny an account is.
Name
Email Address
IP Address.
The admins stated during the discussion that they investigate each account before approving it. They were quick to point out it had nothing to do with Blam because the person didn't register under his Blam name or using Blam tags. This would be one of the few things they said which was actually true. As they said themselves, they check each account before approving it. There are only two things to check
email address <--- which there is nothing to check.
IP address <---- The only way to check this would be against the IP list of other forum accounts an IP's listed in the game server logs.
When they checked the server logs, the IP would have matched up to a player wearing Blam Tags
http://www.gametracker.com/server/8.9.4.85...%5D%20As-Saffa/
I just proved if you checked, you would have know it was a Blam member and you guys said you check every account.

So please don't try any tell anyone there is no way you could have known it was a Blam member.
When you lie in the future, try and do a better job because you make it to easy for me.

5) Also during the public discussion, the admins claimed this subject was discussed at great length before they came to the decision to ban the member. This is their own words.
From Steel's reply
"You know that every registration is validated by one of the team of forum admins. Typically if a registration is bogus, it's simply not validated. I read the report, participated in the discussion about this specific registration, concurred with the ban, and still do.
While the admin was trying to validate the info supplied, one of the pieces started an auto-download of something onto his computer. A virus?? A program?? Spyware?? He couldn't even cancel out of it, but had to force-quit the download and go through all the hassle of checking his computer for spyware & viruses.
I think you'll agree that if that happened to you, you'd be pissed, as was our forums admin."


The important parts of her post would be....
one of the pieces started an auto-download of something onto his computer
He couldn't even cancel out of it
which would imply Mike, would it not?
Then later 6pak joins the discussion and claims it happened to her.
So that means, even though Steel says this problem was discussed at length before the decision was made to ban the person, they never got around to discussing which admin it happened to? Give me a break.
You tell me, does that make any sense? Do you find it even slightly believable?
My personal guess is this was done by either Mike or Steel or they decided this together after matching his IP on the server logs to a Blam member. Then 6pak is forced to jump in to take credit because she knows she's the only one with an ounce of credibility left.
6) Even if you overlook every other issue, one simple fact remains.
There is absolutely no way something like this could have happened, it's beyond stupid to claim it did.
I know most of you have no clue what is done when an admin validates an account.
To help everyone out and show how incredibly stupid this accusation is, here is a video showing what's involved in validating a forum account.
( I would appreciate it if the MOB adminds refrained from clicking on either link as I don't want to get blamed for it starting an unstoppable download, Feel free to get a copy form one of your trusted members. )
http://mobclan.com/druid/RealForum.wmv
Now here is a video of what they claim happened.
http://mobclan.com/druid/FakeForum.wmv


For those of you who still don't get it, there is no way this could have happened.
The only information someone signing up on the forum can enter is their email address. There is no way an email address could start an UNSTOPPABLE download onto anyones' computer. You can't even claim the person was able to somehow sneak a malicious download link in place of the email link because the forum checks to make sure the email address supplied follows the correct format. Don't believe me? Then I suggest you try it yourself, go try an register on your forum. If you put anything but something like....
whoever@where-ever.com
where it ask for your email, then the forum won't process your registration, it returns an error message.
The ONLY thing that would have happened if an admin clicked on the email address while checking the persons registration, is it may have opened their email program. The exact same way as if you click on a web address it opens your internet browser.
If your admins can't tell the difference between them clicking on an email address, which opens their email client and some phantom UNSTOPPABLE malicious download. Then I think it's far to say they are to stupid to be an admin and probably should stop using computers all together before they hurt themselves.

Is there anyone who honestly believes this story? Do you honestly think it was only coincidence this person was banned right around the same time a long term Regs member leaves to join Blam?
Don't get me wrong, it's your forum you can do whatever you want. It's completely within your rights to ban every member of Blam if that's how you get your rocks off. You could also ban every member who's name starts with the letter B or maybe you could ban everyone who's favorite color is RED. You know why you don't, because it would be stupid but not near as stupid as claiming it was because of some phantom download.
You want to know what the worse part is.
***After making this stupid, false accusation.
***After making this be about BLAM by saying it was a BLAM download.
***After accusing Blam of trying to create drama when Blitz asked about it, When you guys would have asked the same question if the situation was reversed.
*** After Steel makes a fool of herself claiming the only reason the person registered was to cause problems.
*** After saying the ban would never be lifted
What happens when this Stupid accusation is brought under the slightest scrutiny? The ban is quickly removed, Why? because the admins didn't want to try an defend their lies an bullshit excuse why the person was banned.
If it had happened the way they said, they would not have been so quick to remove the ban. They knew they were wrong, so unbanning the guy was the quickest way to make the problem go away.
I honestly don't understand how it doesn't bother more people when you're repeatedly lied to like that.
If having people lie to you is how you get your kicks, who am I to judge.You've found yourself the perfect home.
Just don't waste your time crying about how wrong I am. These are the facts and I highly doubt they will be disputed.



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post 03/07/09 10:22pm
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Petty is as Petty does.

I mentioned earlier about how MOB's motto use to be "Fun and friends are more important then winning" but within hours of me bringing it up, Steel deleted it from the website. Since Steel found the old motto so offense it warranted deletion, I would like to take this opportunity to suggest a new motto.
How about "Pettiness, lies an hypocrisy, the 3 pillars of the New-n-Improved MOB.
1) Here is someone doing the right thing by trying to report a possible cheater. How does Steel respond? She insults the guy,
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...=13422&st=0
According to the great one, the only reason Trigger bothered to report the player glitching is because
"someone is in your own personal hidey-hole glitch"
Since Steel had only been around for a very short time, it's interesting her 1st reaction is to insult another member.
2) Steel sets up a new server but after 1 small criticism from 1 player, she throws a childish tantrum an removes the server. No discussion, just Steel flipping out because less than 100% of the people automatically bowed down to worship the change.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...=14425&st=0
Be honest, could she act anymore childish?
I should point this wasn't the only time this happened. Strangely enough the topics concerning the other 2 times went missing.
3) Someone ask a simple question about private slots on the MWCM server and they get slammed for it.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=14606
BTW this simple question produced another childish tantrum which lead to the MWCM server being moved to MOB's dedicated box. How the server was moved is just as important as why. It was purposefully done in such a way as to hurt amount of traffic. Moved without any noticed given to the people who normally play there. This was done so Steel could later say,
"see there, your need to move the server hurt it"
If you think I'm wrong just look at her post.
On the 20th she makes this snide post
"OMM gave me the okay to move mwcm inside the {MOB} server, so I just now made that happen. MWCM is now at 8.9.4.82:28961
There's no problem in making slots private now, so let 'er rip on how many private slots you think is appropriate, what power you need to feel in your quiet little computer nook all alone, lol.

Then 2 days later she follows up with complaining about how the server is only half full because of the move.
Well, that's what happens when you're an idiot an change a servers IP without giving players any notice but that's okay as it allowed Steel to make her bullshit point.
4) Then when a lowly Reg questions what's going on, what happens?
The player is banned and we get front row seats to an award winning performance by Steel, playing the part of a victim.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...=14780&st=0
This would be the 2nd time in Steel's short time with MOB that she quit. I'm sure it's no surprise to most people by now that the 1st topic where Steel threw a tantrum an quit mysteriously went missing.
LMAO
What I find interesting is the guy asked a legitimate question, a question that never received any reply because Steel freaked out an quit.
Did the guy show 100% lack of tack in the way he asked the question? Absolutely.
Should he been removed from the Regs? Maybe.
Should he have been banned? Hell NO.
I just don't understand why everyone completely skipped over what was a legitimate question. Why were changes being made without any information given, much less any discussion? Does everyone else miss the irony of this post?
Someone ask why changes are made without any discussion with the other members in MOB,
so Mike bans the guy without any discussion with other members in MOB.
This issue proved one thing, Steel knew exactly how to respond to get her way an deflect from a question she didn't want to answer.
Sim asked why changes were made without any discussion, Steel freaks out an quits, Sim gets banned.
I ask why forum topics got deleted without any discussion, Steel freaks out and quits, The website gets moved.
Am I the only one who sees a patten here?
Both legitimate questions which have never been answered. Could you be any more predictable????
While Steel is the subject of most of this, she's by no means alone. The other admins share the blame due to their silent lies of omission or worse, actively lying to defend the near dictatorship MOB has become.
For example when Bullet asked Mike why Steel made a particular change without any discussion with the rest of the clan, Mike found the easiest thing to do was lie. He tells Bullet there had been a big discussion in the private council area but he must have missed it.
Now that I think about it, it brings up an interesting point.
There have been numerous times since the Regs started, where the question was raised,
"Whats' the difference between MOB and the Regs".
In the past, the distinction between the two use to be, Regs were a community made up of Regulars from the servers. While MOB is predominantly the competitive side of the clan an is mostly people who play on the ladders.
The current leadership brings with it a whole new distinction between the two groups. The new difference is in how you are dealt with when you ask why an admin makes a change without discussing, consulting or even bothering to tell the rest of the members a change was even made..
If you're a MOB member like Bullet, then you're simply lied to
If you're a lowly member of the Regs like Simbumgowa, then you get kicked out an banned.
Real Classy.

5) Speaking of quitting, this is a GRADE-A example of the hypocrisy that comes so natural to little miss Steel.
http://www.mobclan.com/druid/truth.jpg
Steel insults Shred over being so quick to quit instead of working his differences like an adult. This coming from the person who had at this point, previously quit on 2 different occasions for stupid reasons. Of course Steel being the Lying P.O.S. now claims she never quit. Good job rewriting the history on that one. You go Girl.....
It crack me up just as much as you claiming you didn't write this.
http://mobclan.com/druid/PM1.jpg
If that's not enough, she said much the same thing to HF
http://mobclan.com/druid/PM2.jpg
I know when Steel was asked about the 1st PM, she deflected the question, saying I've had plenty of time to manipulate everything.
Her implication was that she didn't write it. When the subject was brought up again to confront her about how people always had to placate her or she would throw a hissy fit and quit, she flat out claimed the pm was bogus and she had never quit. You guys can think whatever you want, if some sheeple want to ignore the facts, it's no biggie to me. Ultimately it comes down to this, I know she wrote those 2 PM's but more importantly SHE knows she wrote them. When you realize that fact, then nothing else she says matters because she's a lying P.O.S.
6) Speaking of quitting, here would be another post from Steel proudly displaying her hypocrisy
http://mobclan.com/druid/Ban_vote.jpg
"Somehow we've got to come to a place that when someone quits, then they are gone."
I'm guessing that applies to everyone quitting but doesn't count the 3 times she did.
Not to mention, it's just plan stupid to ban someone for reading the PUBLIC forums.
Only Steel would come up with that one, don't deal with the problems that create what she describes as "dirt". No she just wants to ban anyone reading about it.
What a joke.
As I said before, Secrecy is the freedom tyrants dream of........
You have to admit it's pretty damn funny the 1st time she brings anything up from a vote or discussion it's something as stupid as banning a person for reading the forum.


7) I'm sure some people are thinking to themselves
"That's in the past, it doesn't matter"
Okay, fair enough, something a little more recent for those who don't want to deal with the past.
Oh my goodness, Steel once again puts her foot in her mouth. How does she deal with things when she and Blk disagree about something. She insults Blk by claiming he quit in 2007 after not being able to cut it in MOB, then had to come crawling back to MOB when no other clan wanted him. I don't know were little miss crazy got that idea.
Here is Blk's post from when he quit.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=14954
I don't see anything about him leaving because he couldn't cut it MOB. In fact he's always been one of MOB's top players in multiple games over the years. Of course Steel has never been one to let the truth stop her, why would this time be any different. Word to the wise Blk, maybe you should learn your place. You may be a MOB member but she's an "ADMIN". If you think someone can't be kicked out for bogus reasons, just ask Pancakes. It's sad really, as old as she is and still doesn't know when to keep her trap shut or at least lie better. I guess that means the old saying is true, some people never learn.
BTW if anyone thinks BLK is the person who told me, then that only proves what an idiot you are. Blk's about as upfront and in our face, as a person could get. If he was going to say something, he would have said it in the open an to your face.
In fact the person who did tell me about this, said he thought Blk acted belligerently when he confronted Steel just previous to this. The person just thought Steel's response was worse because hers was based completely on lies. Of course my reply was, why would he be surprised.

8) Steel made a big fuss about the horrible avatar and sig's some people used. To ensure her innocent eyes and pristine value's weren't corrupted by something so vulgar as a girl in a bathing suit. She put those individuals on notice, telling them they were going on ignore so their post would be invisible to her. As a way to bully them, she says they are screwed if they need anything done on the servers. So while little miss innocent deemed a girl in a bathing suit as porn, her so called virtues didn't prevent her from using blackmail to get her way.
What's really funny is the fact it was an empty threat as proved by this post.
She claims the people are on ignore so their post are invisible to her but she quickly responds to one of their post saying "she can't see it".
http://mobclan.com/druid/ignore.jpg
This bring up an interesting question. Flatliner was one of the original 3 people who Steel claimed was on ignore. Did that change when Flat became a full MOB member? He still has the same type of busty girl avatar that Steel deemed unacceptable for the forum when he was just a Reg. So is Flat still on ignore as a Full MOB member or does Steel only think she has the right to bully Regs around.
So there you go, another great benefit of becoming a full MOB member. With the MOB tags you also get the right to use whatever avatar/sig you want without having to listen to Steel bitch an cry about how it's unacceptable for the forum so she is going to put you on ignore.
Please be sure to update the member FAQ to reflect this great new benefit.
LMAO

9) Here is another one since the move to the new "More Secure" site.
The 1st day after the move, the main page was an exact copy of this site. Well almost an exact copy, Shred noticed my name had been removed from the retired section of the roster. A few hours after emailing 6pak to ask why, the whole roster was removed. First Steel removes my name from the roster out of spite, then removed the whole roster when asked why. Over the years I've probably visited 100+ clan sites. Three things you can expect to find on all of them.
*** A forum
*** List of game servers the clan operate.
*** A roster listing clan members.
That's what you can find on every clan site but NOT the New-N-Improved MOB homepage. On MOB's homepage where every other clan would has a roster, what does MOB have? They have a link to the members list of the forum
So if someone want to see who's in MOB or the Regs. They will have to scroll through 13 pages of every Tom, Dick and Harry who has ever registered on the forum, while looking to see who's name is in Red or Blue. As stupid as that is, it's not near as idiotic as why? All because a year ago, Shred asked why my name was removed from the retired section of the roster.
It's a glorious monument to the peevish attitude and stupidity behind so many of the decisions of MOB's current admins. First you make a fool out of yourself by being so frantic to remove my name form the roster. Then you make yourself look like even a bigger fool by doing something even dumber by removing the whole roster when asked about it. What an assclown. It amazes me that you were to stupid to see the best compromise in your childish desperation to remove my name would have been to just remove the retired section of the roster.
DUH.....
Not only a a lying, narcissistic, manipulative P.O.S, but she's stupid too.



10) This one really disappointed me since it involves Ktulu and not the other admins. Several months ago I got in a disagreement with Geno concerning how the loss of popularity of MOB's servers would effect donations. I predicted donations would be down while Geno said they were up.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...mp;hl=donations
What's interesting is a few weeks later someone emailed me a copy of the donations chart to prove I was wrong. They ended up making a fool of themselves because they didn't bother to do the math. Turns out I was right, donations were down but not near as much as I predicted. Something else about the donations chart did catch my eye. My name had been removed from it just like the roster. Same as with the roster, it wouldn't have been a big deal if they had simply removed all the ex-MOB names. Nope, just mine. It's beyond silly to remove my name but the chart still list BaconFat who never actually became a member. MOB wanted to recruit BaconFat for the TWL team but Silver/DG threw a fit, so to placate them, Bacon was made a reg.
Then after a few weeks we were going to switch him to MOB. The same day we did BaconFat's welcome to MOB post, he said he was no longer interested due to time constrains with his business.
So I ask you, how funny is it that the donations chart gets changed to remove my name but it still list every other person who has ever been in MOB since the chart was 1st started, including BaconFat who never was a MOB member. For that matter it still list a few people who have never donated.
I wouldn't have been surprised to see this done if Steel or one of the other admins took care of the donations. The fact Ktulu did it is really surprising, he was always one of those people who stayed out of stuff like this. Since Ktulu is now listed as an Admin on the new site, it does bring up an interesting question. I would be curious to know if he did this on his own or did another admin ask him to. Kind of a trial by fire to see if he would do something as petty as them. While I find everything else in this post funny, this one was honestly disappointing.
BTW if I'm wrong about Kt being the one who did this. I will be the 1st to admit I was wrong an will happily apologize. In fact, when I noticed my name was removed, the 1st thing I did was click the donations link on the new site to see if donations still went to Ktulu, My automatic reaction was someone else must be taking care of them now because Ktulu was always one of the few people who stayed above the B.S.


11) Does everyone remember what started the whole
"Druid is a hacker, manipulator, bad person, trouble maker, so we have to move the website"
The whole situation blew up because I asked why a topic started by another MOB member was deleted without any discussion. Then the same thing was done again after a 2nd MOB member restarted the topic after the 1st one vanished.
I simply asked why, but it resulted in Steel flipping out, blaming everything on me because I was the one who asked why. Does that make sense to anyone? If she had an issue with the topics, why didn't she say something to the people who started them, who were other MOB members not me. I ask you, how ridicules is it that I was attacked for asking a legitimate question. Just like every other time when someone questions what's going on, Steel deflects the question by either going on the attack for a completely different issue or playing the victim, or in this case she did both. I only bring that issue up to show how little has changed with the forum Nazi's. The admins are still doing the same thing, the only difference is they can't blame it on me anymore.
A few months ago, one of the Regs I still chat with mentioned to me about how the admins were still at it, because another 6-7 page topic was deleted without any explanation of why. This part should make the new admins happy, your Nazi tactics have finally paid off. When I asked the Reg why he didn't say something about the topic being deleted.
What was his reply? He was scared to bring it up.
Does that make the new Admins proud, some of your own clan members are now to afraid to ask you why you did something. As sad an pathetic as that is, it's probably the right attitude for members to take.
Who knows what would happen to someone if they made the mistake of questioning what an ADMIN did.
Would they be ridiculed? Like me
Would they find themselves attacked? Like Blk.
Would they be lied to? Like Bullet
Would they be forced out? Like Shred or Pancakes
Is there any better example of how a dictatorship is ran?
This is one of the many reasons I don't understand why you didn't just change the name of the clan when you moved because it sure as hell isn't MOB anymore.


12) Earlier I posted a link to a topic where Steel freaked out over 1 person making the smallest criticism to a change she had made on a server. As I said this wasn't the only time it happened. Both of the other times mysteriously suffered from that strange forum problem when any topic which shows
An admin is wrong
An Admin made a mistake
An Admin lied
conveniently vanishes into the great unknown.

Well here is proof that a leopard doesn't change it's spots. Or more accurately in this case, a lying, narcissistic, manipulative P.O.S. is still a lying, narcissistic, manipulative P.O.S. and deleting topics doesn't change that fact. Deleting topics like this is stupid, all it does is prove to everyone, your desperation to hide what kind of person you really are.

I offer you this post from the new-n-improved MOB forums.
Page 1
http://www.mobclan.com/druid/New_coduo_rifles_mod1.htm
Page 2
http://www.mobclan.com/druid/New_coduo_rifles_mod2.htm
Page 3
http://www.mobclan.com/druid/New_coduo_rifles_mod3.htm
Just like every other time, after the smallest criticism, Steel freaks out an removes whatever change she made. When that's not enough to make everyone automatically bow down to apologize an kiss your ass. Then Steel predictably plays her favorite role as victim.
Oh woe is me, no one ever give me the respect I deserve.
Then to make her point about how unappreciated poor little Steel is, she makes up a stupid story, saying that's why Scrapyard Bob left after making Tuchola Forrest and Barbarossa.
Steel completely disrespects everyone, including the two people who apologized after doing nothing wrong.
Then she has the nerve to make her final post on the subject, making a belligerent reply in response to Ci.Ci completely unnecessary apology.
Best of all, she makes her bullish threat just like she did when people didn't automatically bow down to her request to remove sig's or avatars she didn't like.
"So from now on, the mob players who play this server will have to police it yourselves. I won't be going back through log files for you to ban garand hackers any longer. "
Well that's fine, if you're not going to use your admin access to do what people need done, ( checking logs to ban people who deserve banning ). Then simply remove yourself as admin or give someone else who is willing to do the job the ability to do it. Just don't act like a self righteous tyrant to all the other members, threatening them with how you won't do something even if it needs to be done.
It cracks me up how the so called admins claimed I was one the who was holding a gun to MOB's head.
What dipshits, you guys don't even understand why this is so funny. Time after time, I've pointed out the lack of discussion as being the root problem. All because the admins make changes without 1st discussioning it with the rest of the members. Then if someone does ask about it, the admins will either act all asshurt or attack the person for questioning what they did. This whole issue could have been avoided if Steel had simply discussed the proposed changes to the server before she made them.
Nope, Steel does whatever she wants, then acts insulted and upset just because less than 100% of the members didn't quickly kiss her ass.

So....... thank you, thank you, thank you,
A whole year later an you have once again proved my point for me.
The problem isn't just Steel running rampant, the other admins are just as much to blame for not having enough respect for the other members or the guts to confront Steel when she is clearly in the wrong.
How about this, in stead of deleting the topic to hide what happened, How about everyone in MOB be allowed the opportunity to decide who was wrong. Either Steel was in the wrong, or Capt.Andtennille and CiCi were.
Deleting the topic does zero to solve the problem. Wouldn't it have been better to be deal with it in an honest an upfront way? is that to much to ask?
BTW how ironic is it that dozens of people read that topic an knew Steel was wrong but everyone except 2 people were afraid to say so.
It's only when Silver pointed out Steel was wrong two days later, that the topic got deleted. I do have to admit I'm very surprised to see Silver's account wasn't banned even though he was about as courteous as he could be when he contradicted some of the lies Steel told so she could make her bogus point. ( ie. why Scrap left ).
Have no fear, undoubtedly in a few weeks there will be a post about Silver getting banned because he hacked the server or maybe there will be some phantom download link in one of his post.
LMAO







Admins.... What are they good for?


Since this concerns the admins and their near automatic response to bring up "All they do for MOB" whenever someone questions them about anything. I thought it only fair to take a closer look at how they handle those responsibilities. ( BTW I don't include Overheated in this group ). How about the great handling of the drive crash at the web host.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=15151
This would be when people were told it was my fault the website was down so long. According to one of the admins. I left them in the dark an because of me they couldn't even put in a trouble ticket. The truth was the only thing that prevented anyone from putting in a trouble ticket was they didn't bother to read the directions on how to setup an account on the new help ticket system.
BTW, it's completely pointless to put in a support ticket when the host was already aware of the problem. For future reference it's best to always check the support forums.
http://www.lunarforums.com/lunarpages_web_...e-t42238.0.html
Once is bad enough but twice is just stupid. This wasn't the only time the admin's screwed something up because they couldn't/wouldn't read simple instructions.
Word to the wise,having the reading comprehension of a 5th grader does come in handy at times.
There was an issue with private topics showing up in the public forum because the admins didn't bother to read a warning message about what would happen to all the topics when they deleted the old BsS TWL forum.
http://www.mobclan.com/druid/delete_forum.jpg
Should have emptied the forum ( delete all the topics) before you delete the forum category.
http://www.mobclan.com/druid/empty_forum.jpg
Whats even funnier is even though I'm the one who let them know about the problem, they found a way to hold it against me.
http://www.mobclan.com/druid/Cheap.jpg
I let them know about the problem but Mike conveniently left that part out when he purposefully mis-characterizing my comment about MOB being cheap entertainment. I think Mike has spent to much time around Steel, or maybe it's just his real nature to imply my "Cheap entertainment" comment was proof I was trying to screw over MOB, even though that comment comes from an email exchange where I was only trying to help him fix a problem. A problem, which BTW Mike created. Just goes to show you, it's not worth trying to help some people out.
Speaking of trying to help someone out, I let you know a year ago about multiple typo's in the New-N-Improved list of server rules. How spiteful and childish does a group of people have to be to refuse to fix something just because I'm the one who mentioned the problem. I could understand if it was just same random forum post but this is part of the FAQ you tell people to read.
Don't anyone find it strange, the admins would rather MOB look stupid then fix something I pointed out?

Don't like someone pointing out you don't know what you're doing? Well guess what, Karma is a bitch. I just thought it was interesting you guys take the same attitude whenever someone offers to help out. For instance, when Shred said he would be interested in learning the game servers to help out. You guys responded with the same condescending attitude...
Poor little Shred wouldn't know what to do.
Shred didn't understand that running a dedicated box was more complicated that running his one little rented server.
It seems like only yesterday I was on vent baby stepping Mike through how to use remote desktop to connect to the dedicated box. While Steel acts like it's to complicated for other people to do. Even though at first, she couldn't figure out how to do something as simple as changing a server name.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...12823&st=15
Lets not forget the claim by Steel that she spent hours and hours researching the problem with the Barb server restarting. After her supposed countless hours of investigation, Steel concludes Goose was using the server control page to restart the server. Stupid me I made the mistake of taking 5 minutes to check the log file, only to find Goose had never used the server control page. I'm sure it's just coincidence that I suddenly turned into this raging asshole, manipulative, server hacking trouble maker right after I made the mistake of contradicting her bogus claim Goose was crashing the Barb server via the control page.
BTW It's not just Shred, there have been other people who have offered to help over the last few years but were told their help was unneeded. Just so you could hold over every one's head "How much you do for them".
Sad an pathetic for the win.....

I'm not implying you don't work hard or try, it's just that you suck at it. There is a whopping difference between working hard an working smart.
For instance, the forum at MOBCLAN had suffered from 2 different problems for almost a year before the "Admins" came up with their lame ass excuses as to why they had to move the site.
The 1st problem was a random SQL error message while browsing the forum. It wasn't a big problem but it only took me 5 minutes of searching on the PowerBoard support forum to find it was conflict between the new version of PHP and the forum. Then it took maybe another 5 minutes to modify a few files to fix it. Not a big deal as it was more of a minor annoyance than real problem.
The 2nd issue was a real problem an should have been solved. The forum was getting flooded with fake spam accounts. There was a period lasting almost a year where there was 20-50 automated spambot registrations on the forum each an every day. The solution the admins came up with to deal with the problem was making it where each individual account had to manually approved by an admin. Over the years, I've easily registered on 100+ forums, not a single one required manual admin validation of accounts. You want to know why, because it's stupid. First of all, this was an incredibly lame way to handle the problem because it does zero to solve the root cause. Not only that but it also created a whole new problem.
Usually when someone registers on a forum it's because they want to post. On every other forum in the world they immediately have this ability or they are allowed to quickly activate their account via email validation. Not on MOB's forums, here people had to sometimes wait days before an admin got around to validating their account. Even worse, there were some days when there was simply to many fake accounts. So the admins would decide it was to much of a hassle to go through an separate out the obvious automated spam accounts from the real ones, To save their precious time, the admins would simply delete all the new accounts, the real ones an fake.
Now put yourself in that persons place. You register on the forum, only to find out you can't post.You wait... and wait.... and wait... for an email saying an admin has approved your account.After a few days you get tired of waiting, so you go back to forum to see if there is a problem. Only to find your account had been deleted with no explanation given. There is no way to knows how many people that happened to.
So great job super admins on making people feel so UN-welcome when they stopped by the forum and wasted their time registering.
If you don't understand why this was a real problem then consider this.
Previous to the stupid way the admins handled the problem with automated spambot sign-ups. Look back an see how much forum activity there was from new people registering after playing on the servers. Then look to see the activity reduced to almost zero over the next year.
This is obviously a big part of why the clan suffered such a slow down in recruitment between the Regs an MOB. Doesn't anyone else find it strange that even now, most people in MOB or the REGs date back to either MOHAA or the 1st year or two of COD:UO. Just look at how much forum traffic, recruitment, donations overall activity level there was during the BARB period when compared to COD2, COD4, and MW. It's not even close. Didn't anybody else notice this an wonder why?

For almost a year at MOBCLAN the so called admins thoroughly failed in their responsibilities to to do a simple search on how to prevent the dozens of automated spam-bot registrations every single day. They could have spent 5 minutes searching for an answer, then another 5 to make the necessary changes on the forum to prevent the problem. 10 minutes to permanently solve the problem. What did the admins do instead? They wasted how much time every few days to manually go through all the forum registrations to approve or deny each account as they tried to separate out the real accounts from all the bogus ones. Then there were the times they would delete all the accounts, bogus an real because they didn't want to waste their time that day. Their great way to solve the problem was to show a total disregard to whoever may have signed up on the forum on the days when all the new accounts got deleted.
Countless hours were wasted over the course of a year while they tried to go through dozens of registrations an handpick which ones to approval. When it would have only taken 10 minutes to permanently solve the problem. That's why I say you may have worked hard, but you sure as hell don't work smart.
Now for the really funny part, The New-N-Improved forum suffers from the exact same problem as this one did a year ago when they ran it. There may not be near as many daily spam-bot registrations on the new forum as there was a year ago on this forum but it happens. It's been going on for a while on the new forum an it's slowly getting worse.
Here is a thought provoking puzzle for the Super Duper Admins at the New-N-Improved forum. Last year I pointed out some typo's in the new list of server rules. Out of childish spite, the admins decided not to fix the typo's since I'm the one who pointed them out. So here is the $100 question for you. If I tell you how to easily solve the problem an prevent all automated spam-bots from registering on the new forum, will you fix the problem or will you still refuse to out of spite just like the server rules?
You don't even have to search for it, it's the very 1st post on V-Bulletin's support forum.
"Forum Robot Spam Prevention Recommendations"
Plus the information is cross posted in half a dozen other forum categories dedicated to each major version of V-Bulletin.

Personally I would highly recommend fixing the problem because you guys absolutely suck at deciding which accounts to approve.
1st there was that stupidity involving banning a person, because you claimed approving their forum registration caused an unstoppable download to your computer. During the discussion surrounding that issue, the admins boasted about how they dedicated they were by spending all their time going through each account to keep the spam-bots out.I guess maybe you do honestly try, to the best of your feeble abilities. I just can't believe you approved this account
http://www.mobclan.com/druid/account_number.jpg
Maybe in the fantasy world you guys live in there are REAL people named "61383719335"
Would you have still approved the account if it was named "spam-bot"? Because that's only one small step above "61383719335" in likelihood of it being an automated spam-bot.
Who knows, maybe the female admins were looking to buy a new handbag since that is what member 61383719335 was selling
http://www.mobclan.com/druid/handbags.jpg


I can hear you guys whining right now about leaving things in the past. Okay, fair enough. I'll just stick to some of the things I find so funny about the New-N-Improved website.
How about something simply like, oh I don't know, maybe the main page. It's been a year, hasn't anyone else ever noticed the top Navigation Bar will randomly line up wrong?
As seen here
http://www.mobclan.com/druid/NavBar.jpg
The forums button should be on the top row, not on the 2nd line by itself. This problem doesn't exist in the free template Steel downloaded to use for the site. The problem is a direct result of a change Steel made when she modified the template. I would be a nice guy an let you know how to fix it but look what happened last time I tried to help out by letting the admins know about the private topics showing up in the public forum. It was held against me, so maybe this time you should figure out the problem an fix it yourself.

It's simple
Basic HTML 101
If you can't figure it out, I'm sure one of the little kids in the Regs would be willing to fix it for you.
Come on, it's been like this for a year.
I wonder, are you going to fix it or just cry about how mean an manipulative 'Ol Druid is.
Then there is the other alternative Steel tends to use to deflect from something she doesn't want to deal with., She could always freak out an quit again. Wouldn't be the 1st time now would it?


I saved the best for last. Does everyone remember what the big news headline was when the 3 amigos got together to move the site.
"MOB has moved to a new more secure site"
Maybe a year ago that was true but not now. Since you never bothered to fix the problem with automated spam bots registration. I'm guessing you've never been on the V-Bulletin support site. If you had, you would have seen the version you use reached it's official end of life back in Oct '08. So much for your so called "More Secure Site" In fact, if you do a search for hacks, the version you use ( 3.6.8 ) has the 3rd most complaints about being hacked. Don't get me wrong, if I needed a 1,000+ member forum for a commercial/corporate site, I would probably go with V-bulletin as they sell a good product but more importantly, they offer tier 1 support if you're willing to pay for it. I just wouldn't be dumb enough to pay $180/yr for a small private clan forum then not even bother to keep it updated. You can't even plead your ignorance on this, because lack of updates is what resulted in the forum at MOBclan getting hacked back in 2007. Or did you already forget about a MOB member and his family receiving death threats in the middle of the night due to a phone number the hacker got off the private forums. After something like that happening, I would think most people would learn the importance of keeping the forum up to date, but apparently not you guys.
So once again, this brings up an interesting catch-22. Now that I've pointed out your "New More Secure Forum" is in desperate need of updating, are you going to fix it or ignore the problem out of childish spite like you did when I pointed out the typo's in the server rules section of the FAQ?
Here are your choices.
1) Pay the $180 an update the forum an prove you're only dumb enough NOT to keep it updated until a nice guy like me points out the problem to you.
2) Not update the forum, then when it gets hacked, you can blame it on me.
Considering your tendency to be so petty an idiotic, I'm sure you'll see #2 as the best option.

Well I guess that's about it, I hope you enjoyed this long read an look forward to my post next year to celebrate the two year anniversary of the move. One last thought I would like to leave everyone. I know some people in MOB or the Regs will read this an their initial reaction will be to feel insulted. Well you shouldn't. I honestly regret that some people may take this post the wrong way. This has zero to do with you or MOB, in my humble opinion it's not really MOB anymore.
The MOB clan I knew is the one which appreciated how important the core groups of MOB Reg were to the overall success of the clan. Who understood the people who practically lived on the Barb and TF, are what made the servers so popular. Which is why every important change was always brought up for a vote or discussion.
Should 1 of the 2 Barb servers be closed?
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...?showtopic=9933
120 votes about possibly changing the time limit
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=13151
100+ votes to decide the time limit on Tuchola Forest
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=11030
Which server to close when Barb2 was released
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=10056
Getting peoples input on changes before they are made, went away with the new admins. With the new admins you have a situation where, without any discussion or concern about how it will effect the Barb/TF servers, a new Modern weapons BAS server is setup. Putting up the MW Bas server was a nail in the coffin of the classic Barb/TF servers because it split the already dwindling traffic. Plus the fact people had to initially jump thru hoops to play on both because of an incompatibility between the MW mod an Barb.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...ic=14937&hl
While some people preferred the WM version. For most other people, MW killed what originally made Barb so special, the game play.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...ic=15029&hl

Steel's post here even proves how much her MW version hurt the classic Barb server ( 60% reduction in traffic )
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...st&p=164965
Of course that's not the point she was trying to make. Steel's only concern was to say, look how much more traffic my MW server gets compared to classic. I'm not trying to deny that fact, my point is this.
With Classic Barb/TF MOB had....
* A great collection of die hard fans which helped MOB grow. I can think of 20+ people who made the Regs from Barb/TF. A few of who went on to become MOB.
* All the great scrimmages MOB and the Regs had with other clans.
* Barb/TF always produced a reliable source of donations to help fund the server.
MOB never saw those kinds of benefits from the MW servers even though it had more traffic. The one thing MOB did get was a front row seat to see Steel's ego in action. Even now, a year later all she really cares about is her personal MW server, which is why that's the only server she bothered to setup stats for.

Speaking of servers, you have to admit it's a dismal comparison between MOB now and what it use to be. Now the great accomplishment is getting a server into the top 10%, when it use to be getting a server into the top 10. You know what the difference is between the top 10 and 10%? About 400 servers. Even worse, the ONLY reason the MOB WAW Bolts server got this high is a direct result of a few MOB idling in the server 24hrs a day. If you think I'm wrong, just compare it's average players/month with other similar servers.
MOB is currently #285 with 5.6 average players per month
To keep it fair I'll only compare it with other 24 player or smaller servers.
Here are other servers with higher average traffic but ranked lower then the MOB server because of the 24hr+ idling bots.
8.9 players/month
http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/82.192.81.137:28960/
7.1 players/month
http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/8.6.9.118:28960/
7.4 players/month
http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/194.97.165.44:28930/
A little 14 player server with 6.7 players/month
http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/193.47.83.170:28930/
another small 16 player server with 7.6 players/month
http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/62.104.18.194:28960/
A 24 player server MOB is ranked higher than, even though they show 9.4 players/month
http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/69.12.77.32:28960/

Or here is another interest statistic to show you how much of an affect having people idle 24hrs a day has.
According to gametracker, there has been 4,454 people join the server.
But it only shows 3350 listed on the player stats. The other 1100 don't get listed because they never had a score. This means about 25% of the people who join the server don't stick around long enough to play. Most of that 25% are people who join the server because they see someone in the server but leave before playing because there is not people playing, just people idling.
This directly helped to falsely inflate your server ranking. If it wasn't for all the idling between Mike and a few other people, the server probably wouldn't have broken the top 10%.
If you think I'm wrong just look at the server tracker in order of who plays the most.
http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/8.9...amp;per_page=25
All the idling done between Mike's two names and Knockemstiff two names, add up to more time then the other top 25 players combined.
Over the short term, all that idling may help inflate the server ranking. Over the long term it will end up hurting the server as people slowly quit joining when they see only 2-3 people in the server because they think it's just people idling, not playing.
I'll make a prediction, unless even more MOB are willing to sit in the server to boost it's ranking, there will be a noticeable drop over the next 90 days.



A final review of the important contributions the admins have made over the last year.
1) Proved how petty they are by not fixing some typo's in the rules just because I'm the one who pointed them out.
2) Brag about how dedicated an unselfishly they spend their time reviewing each an ever account prior to validation to prevent spambots, even though a permanent fix would only take 10 minutes.
3) Make MOB look like idiots after banning a player over some phantom unstoppable download.
4) Make a new website with a bad link on it for 8 months until they finally got around to fixing it.
5) A navigation bar on the main page which randomly displays incorrectly.
6) Put up their new "More Secure" forum but never bother to updated it.
7) I see MOB still proudly displays their list of top donors for 2007, You do realize this is 2009 right? Maybe it's time you update it. BTW it's only fair you remove D3monic from that list since he was banned after standing up to a reg who threatened to ban him for saying "wtf". It's no wonder not a single server gets full anymore, they are so over managed.
8) Let's not forget deleting this topic
http://www.mobclan.com/druid/New_coduo_rifles_mod1.htm
In a failed attempt to hide what a lying, narcissistic, manipulative P.O.S Steel is.
Not to mention how many other topics.
Does anyone honestly think I couldn't go on?


Best of luck to everyone, I'll see you next year about this same time.
Sorry I was so late this year. Happy belated 1 year anniversary MOB


Best Wishes an All my love
Druid.



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For those who want to complain about this, and think...
I'm Wrong
Spiteful
Vindictive
Lying
Or whatever else.
All I can say is, several direct lies were told about me plus other thinly veiled accusations. I was blamed for things I didn't do. Maybe you don't care when someone does that to you. When it happens to me, I respond. If your 1st response is to turn the other cheek, you're a better person than I am. I can respect that even though I may not agree with it. If on the other hand, you're in the group who only wants to whine about what I say without any regard as to why. Then with all do respect, kiss my ass.
Don't cry to me just because you lack the backbone to stand up for yourself.


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Its interesting how I happen to start coming to the forums shortly before you posted this. This is probably your longest most yet.

I'm very disappointed that the MOB clan is being controlled by power hungry people that are so selfish and closed-minded that they cannot include the rest of the clan. Now I wasn't in MOB at its founding but I was in the IW clan when the founding members were playing.

MOB at the time was one of my favorite clans to know (which is the reason why I stumbled in and eventually became a member). The MOB server was one of my favorites because of the competitiveness of the players, the skill levels of the members and the respect they gave towards the people who came in there to have fun.

When I joined shortly after leaving the Invisible Warriors, I joined MOB which I was very excited about. One of the things I noticed instantly was how it was managed. While some members controlled website design and such, the whole clan was able to make decisions regarding incoming members and the daily issues. Everyone had admin privileges but they were abused by no one because we all respected the skilled regular players that hopped onto our servers.

Coming back and getting the scoop on whats been going on is disappointing. The clan was looked at as one of the best mohaa clans of all times, not because of few members controlling the clans interests but of the clan as a whole. I wish all of the "Sheeple" as Druid cleverly puts it understood how proud and fun it was to be a member. Through all the disagreements and problems the clan still bonded and became friends. Now its a band led by a couple controlling admins.

I hoped when I came back here I was going to be able to catch up on clan news and see that it is still in good form. It is not and I'm sad that it isn't anymore because what the clan used to be was great. I wouldn't have wanted to be anywhere else.

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Yesterday was another very successful day in the life of the New-N-Improved MOB.
Two Regs leave to join the =BoS= clan
Then a MOB member gets banned. His crime, saying 6pak is better looking than some random chick in a video.
To round off the night, the (MOB) Goodfellas TWL team drops off the ladder after their 4th consecutive loss.
biggrin.gif And that's the GOOD News... biggrin.gif

The BAD news is they suffered another spam-bot attack because their admins won't fix their "More Secure" forums as I suggested to prevent problems such as this.



HELP!!!! HELP!!! We're under another Spam Bot attack!

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Who was the MOB member?
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McCoy as seen in the topic titled
"Top-secret footage of" in the general discussion forum

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Wow getting banned for saying something nice Way to Fail


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Wow getting banned for saying something nice Way to Fail


He was banned because he wanted to be banned. It wasn't for anything said in that thread.


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I'm sure the ban was due to more than just that, I just thought it was funny the way it worked out.
Who knows maybe he hacked the server or had one of those unstoppable downloads in his signature, there is really no telling why.

Something really strange I just noticed regarding the New-N-Improved MOB forum.
There are some really interesting statistics about their forum.
538 People have signed up on the forum
368 On the member list
This means 170 people ( 31% ) have been either banned or their account not validated. I guess the spam bots have been hitting them worse then I originally thought or they have banned a shit load of people. I think a mixture of both.

Even more interesting is this.
Out of the 368 people on the member list, 84 people (22%) never returned to the site after getting their account approved. I wonder if this is partly because of how long it takes an admin to approve some accounts. It took over 24hrs for mine. I wonder how many people out of those 84 thought there was something wrong after their account wasn't quickly activated and went elsewhere.

The admins claim they do this to keep the spambots out. As I mentioned earlier, they apparently don't do a very good job. Look at these two accounts
almodialogDok
Anaeriimpap
Clearly spambots due to the homepage listed in their profiles. No need to thank me for letting you know ahead of time. After all the entertainment you guys give me, we'll just call it even.
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McCoy was banned because he was being an idiot. That included racist posts by him. Not because of something he said about 6.

The HQ team didn't drop the ladder because of another loss. The ladder was/is being closed anyway due to lack of teams/inactivity. That team never was built to be the #1 team on the ladder. It was for anyone who wanted to play to get a chance to play. So yes there were losses. The team moved to the 4v4 HQ ladder and we will continue to play.

We're currently #1 on the 4v4 TDM ladder which the last time I checked it was the largest ladder at TWL.

The UO BAS team is #1 on their ladder as well.

I wouldn't expect you to want to point out that there actually is good news but to try and make it look like we're failures competitively is in the same vein as the crap you are so keen to keep pointing out. I'm not sure what you want to achieve by doing this over and over.

I don't have the time or the energy to point out everything I agree with and disagree with but there is more to this than everyone is/was picking on poor old druid. You not being willing to turn over the website to the clan played a big part in the whole mess. I'd love to see you own that. I'm by no means trying to justify the actions of others. I think Steel has flat out lied to people about things involving you (among other things) and while I've always liked Mike and Six it's hard for me to understand why they can't just be straight up either.

Bahh... I'm too tired and nobody cares other than you apparently so I'm done with posting here unless it involves me directly. i.e. the implication that the HQ team was a failure....

I'd love to see you actually do something constructive instead of spending so much energy trying to tear down something. Good luck man.

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Sorry to see your post because you're actually one of the few people I still hold in high regard. There has always been as much stuff we disagree on as do agree on, which is fine because unlike the rest you've always been straight up in what you say.
I really don't see the issue in what I said about the TWL. This was the 4th loss in a row an MOB did leave the ladder. I'm sure you didn't approve of the way I said it but I was purposefully be cynical and I think that fact was obvious to anyone reading the post. I'm not sure what you mean about the BAS :UO team still being #1, I wasn't aware there was still an active COD:UO ladder.

As for your remark about me not owning up to refusing transfer the domain. I've been completely upfront about that an exactly why.
http://www.mobclan.com/druid/Cheap.jpg
Hell I was even honest enough to admit at the time the reason was partly vindictive. The whole reason behind that email exchange proves that fear was just. As the problem was caused by something Mike did. Sorry but I don't know what you think I need to own up to, as I already have. The amount of history being re-written on this subject is amazing. They sure as hell didn't care about me keeping access when I came back to fix the forum after it was hacked. They didn't care about me coming back to fix the stats when they quit working. Their complaints about me keeping access after leaving only came up after I privately confronted them about some of the things going on behind the scenes.
The other reasons I didn't turn the site over to them is I was simply afraid of having them screw something up so bad it couldn't easily be fixed.


I also disagree with your complaint about me being hell bent on tearing something down. Every post I ever made was to benefit MOB, right up until your admins decide lies about me were the correct way to solve a problem.
You freely admit Steel lied about things concerning me, well that's the whole reason behind this. It's easy for you to say Steel has lied an done things you don't agree with it. Ultimately it not that big of a deal to you because it doesn't directly effect you. I think you would care more if the lies an accusations had been about you.
Let's be fair, after Steel falsely accuses you of
Hacking the server.
Manipulating everything
Causing countless problems.
Then you will be more than welcome to come back an tell me how unfair I'm being.
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Over a year, I was late. tongue.gif


Something else I wanted to add to my previous post.
I'm actually having fun doing this, it's just like I said, cheap entertainment. What's really interesting is this is what I've always done and exactly how I've always acted. If someone tried to cause problems on the forum or with MOB in general. I would do the same kind of thing an everyone would cheer me on as I virtually bitch slapped the person.The ONLY thing that has changed is who I'm doing it to.
I think I also did a fair job explaining all of this has little to do with MOB in general. If someone takes it the wrong way that's unfortunate.

You want to know why the thing with McCoy is funny to me. It's because certain people completely lack the ability to deal with problems in an upfront an honest way.
How many people in the Regs read that exchange on the forum today an didn't know what it was about or why McCoy was banned. I understand MOB knew the reason but apparently the Regs didn't. Like always no one needs to explain themselves until their back is against a wall. Would it have been so hard to post in the Regs section about what happened and why? Wouldn't that have been better? Or how about this, maybe a discussion about what caused McCoy to change, he didn't always act this way did he?
This is a one of the countless things which could have been handled better. Something similar happened before like this with Fezzy.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=11212
Which way do you thing was the better way to deal with it?
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According to the great one, the only reason Trigger bothered to report the player glitching is because
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QUOTE(Robert @ 03/10/09 10:07pm) *

Oh my God! That was less than 3 years ago! It feels like an eternity, but it wasn't that long ago. I mean read it! A lot of it is BSS guys and they are still on good terms. Damn. I didn't really appreciate how much things had changed in such a short time. It's been a pretty exciting ride, for sure.

Hey, things change. I got Capt. Andtenille to keep my mind working. We have some really fun debates. I don't game much lately due to nobody being around when I'm around, not that they aren't around, just that I'm not around when they are around, at least as far as I can see.

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