Possible Other Fronts of the War on Terror, Notspots to watch that possibly harbour significant terrorist agendas Options

[Hellfighter]

It's a fact the Sudan government is hiring bands extremist islamists to openly terrorise the Darfur population. Clinton had bombed a 'suspected' terrorist sponsored chemical plant in Sudan a decade ago.
I'm making this thread so that we can observe if similar threats are evolving elsewhere;
First one to post is Somalia and Ethiopia... as this link mentions, Ethiopians and Somali government forces have allied to push out extremist Islamists from the Somali capital. They are assumed to have al quaeda links.
http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/TopStorie...showbyline=True

[Hellfighter]

Update on the Somalia Region- 2 sides of the same story.

http://kcbs.com/pages/179626.php?contentTy...ontentId=285495
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L10388118.htm

[Hellfighter]

I like this link I found lately regarding the War on Terror.
Again we're missing alot of news on the War on other Fronts... some good news {Philipinnes], some worriesome [E.Africa].
Fronts to watch are North and East Africa ->
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/0,,797383,00.html

[Stickman]

Clinton had bombed a 'suspected' terrorist sponsored chemical plant in Sudan a decade ago.

Better also tell the rest of the story (from this wikipedia article):


Officials later acknowledged, however, "that the evidence that prompted President Clinton to order the missile strike on the Shifa plant was not as solid as first portrayed. Indeed, officials later said that there was no proof that the plant had been manufacturing or storing nerve gas, as initially suspected by the Americans, or had been linked to Osama bin Laden, who was a resident of Khartoum in the 1980s."[2]. Unfortunately the factory was Sudan's primary source of pharmaceuticals, covering the majority of the Sudanese market. Werner Daum (Germany's ambassador to Sudan 1996–2000) wrote an article [3] in which he estimated that the attack "probably led to tens of thousands of deaths" of Sudanese civilians. The U.S. State Department Bureau of Intelligence and Research wrote a report in 1999 questioning the attack on the factory, suggesting that the connection to bin Laden was not accurate; James Risen reported in the New York Times: "Now, the analysts renewed their doubts and told Assistant Secretary of State Phyllis Oakley that the C.I.A.'s evidence on which the attack was based was inadequate. Ms. Oakley asked them to double-check; perhaps there was some intelligence they had not yet seen. The answer came back quickly: There was no additional evidence. Ms. Oakley called a meeting of key aides and a consensus emerged: Contrary to what the Administration was saying, the case tying Al Shifa to Mr. bin Laden or to chemical weapons was weak."[4] The Chairman of El Shifa Pharmaceutical Industries, who is critical of the Sudanese government, more recently told reporters, "I had inventories of every chemical and records of every employee's history. There were no such [nerve gas] chemicals being made here."[5] Sudan has since invited the U.S. to conduct chemical tests at the site for evidence to support its claim that the plant might have been a chemical weapons factory; so far, the U.S. has refused the invitation to investigate. Nevertheless, the U.S. has refused to officially apologize for the attacks, suggesting that some privately still suspect that chemical weapons activity existed there.[6]

[Hellfighter]

Clinton had bombed a 'suspected' terrorist sponsored chemical plant in Sudan a decade ago.

Better also tell the rest of the story (from this wikipedia article):


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You just told it better than I could

[Kleerance]

I like this link I found lately regarding the War on Terror.
Again we're missing alot of news on the War on other Fronts... some good news {Philipinnes], some worriesome [E.Africa].
Fronts to watch are North and East Africa ->
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/0,,797383,00.html

A bit off topic, but anyway. Hellfighter you have ca 70% of the posts in this war of terror thread. How come you are so interested in this? Have you been in the army or studying this at school or...? You really go in debt with this. No offense - just curious. (I'm born curious )

[Hellfighter]

Heehee hey Kleerance, I've always read through old military history/Empires as a past-time - recently I'm focusing on modern history. It seems to me people often miss viewing events from odd angles. Maybe leaders/Generals make blunders by not respecting the obvious consequences of unheeded lessons from the past. Also as you noticed I like to catch/correct some in their tracks in these threads when they make an error of fact [like I've been caught a few times-and I'm glad I was 'educated' rather than get defensive]. Things I point out is France has a military presence in Afghanistan- and the war in Iraq wasn't in response to 9-11.... and the US has many elder folks in Iraq too [married /with families] so lets not forget them too-and their 2,3,4 tours there! Mostly I like to squash any 'gung-ho' posts and those thinking having 'big balls' to throw their political weight around means everything irregardless of Generals/voters/experts opinions- if that was the case, let's fill the White House Administration with the 'star' cast from Jackass the Movie

Actually rumour goes round that some folks here actually go through the excrutiating process of reading my opinions and updates. So just on that I like to share what I hear lately -from unfamiliar angles perhaps.

Like the current new surprise offensive by NATO against the Taliban who are threatening their own large scale offensive. It's interesting to see how the 'Terror' side are off-balancing us with their various contingents applying pressure in Iraq, North/East Africa, and Afghanistan. To me its more of an military resource/economical-draining strategy - perhaps to keep our guard lower from the real clandestine terror cells that are planning to hit on home fronts in a big way.

I'm more worried about Afghanistan as the future threat. If we lose there, Pakistan is the next place to go up. Pakistan has nukes now. And Pakistan is unable to overwhelm Bin Ladens pals/support in Pakistan.

Now a new topic that needs to be discussed here/started is the Walter Reid/vet hospital maintenance neglect scandal.


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 03/07/07 10:17am

[Hellfighter]

The plague is spreading ever more..... it still bewilders me how some think a victory in Iraq 'stops the terrorists from fighting in our streets'. Bin Laden's mad spawn are everywhere and calculating and planning. I find it's a ridiculous concept to believe that scumbag bin Laden has mindlessly thrown in all his resources just/solely into 'winning' in Iraq - right now the al quaeda ops. seeping in from Syria are going toe-to-toe with the Sunni's- of all people in western Iraq. The strategy of being lured into a quagmire is in play here. Leaders who don't listen to their generals advice will of course fall for the deception and stretch thin precious fighting resources in one bad throw of the dice. The latest are troops not due to be re-rotated into the Front now getting told to go back 2 years earlier than planned!
Anyway have a look here;
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070411/ap_on_...n8oRT1Bma.9IxIF

[PFC Mustangman]

Hey Hellfighter the BIG U.N.Chief says its not Jihad at all in Darfur but
global Warming.These Politians are all nuts.They just want a New World Order where we all bow to them and they take all our money so they can all live high on the hog.

[Hellfighter]

Hey Hellfighter the BIG U.N.Chief says its not Jihad at all in Darfur but
global Warming.These Politians are all nuts.They just want a New World Order where we all bow to them and they take all our money so they can all live high on the hog.

EDIT April 2008 - lol at the time I misunderstood our kindly mustangman's comments and wrote a rebuke-ish statement lol- I've deleted it... I see your point Mr.mustangman


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 04/14/08 8:03am

[Hellfighter]

Some neo-cons and die hard pro-Iraq war enthusiasts seem to have it in their limited scope of the situation that for Jihadists and Al quaeda the only places they can grab a new safe haven to operate is in Iraq. Wakey wakey eggs and backey- the threats and opportunities for Bum Laden is global - North and East areas of Africa are places where ever-growing Jihadists are starting to make fresh inroads regarding harassment-free zones to do their 'business.....
http://www.newsweek.com/id/131836


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 04/14/08 8:00am

[Hellfighter]

Al quaeda takes a hit on its Somalia Front;
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24397592