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Robert
post 03/24/08 2:01pm
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An the laugh train rolls on.
The newest bit of humor comes from the change to the MOB server rules.

1st a little history.
The original server rules came about from a discussion after a few players were kicked off the server for dubious reasons.
During the course of the discussion, a decision was made that MOB should come up with a list of server rules so there would clear guidelines as to what was acceptable an unacceptable behavior.
At the end of the discussion, I was asked to come up with an initial sample list of server rules.
After coming up with the sample set of possible server rules, I started a new discussion to get feedback from other members for suggestions, comments.
Following that discussion, where EVERY member ( MOB and Reg ) was given the opportunity to participate in the discussion, a finalized list of server rules was posted.

For those who missed it, the key word today boys and girls is discussion.
discussion - an extended communication (often interactive) dealing with some particular topic, an exchange of views on some topic

I only bring this up after two MOB members mentioned how funny it was that the server rules were changed without any discussion.
http://mobclan.com/druid/rules.jpg

Without a doubt, the funniest change was the rule regarding profanity.
Apparently without any discussion it went form this
Profanity
Although we don't consider the {MOB} servers as G- rated, excessive or constant use of profanity is not allowed

to
Profanity
Althought we don't consider the MOB servers as G-rated, excessive or constant use of profanity is not allowed in chat or players names.
Any language that may be regarded as abusive or offensive associated to race, gender, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation will get you kicked or banned.

The 2nd line cracks me up.
When I 1st read it , I thought it sounded like some kind of stupid ACLU Political correctness doublespeak.
Then I did a search with that phrase and found a match with an ACLU news release regarding suggested guidelines for hate speech.
So not only does it sound like ACLU claptrap, it actually is.
Good job New-N-Improved MOB, you've now taken political correctness into the virtual world of online gaming.
It's not the lamest list of server rules I've seen but it does rank up in the top 10.

Let's take a closer look
Race
I don't know about now but didn't MOB use to run a server message stating raciest names or comments would result in a kick or ban. If so, wouldn't this be a little redundant?
Gender
Not sure about the point of this ones since I fail to see how a persons gender has anything to do with a FPS game.
Just to be fair to the ladies, I think everyone should boycott COD:UO , COD2 and COD4 due to the game only has male characters. Really how insensitive is that they are forcing females to play as male characters.
I don't know about you but I'm highly offended, at least MOHAA offered the option of the female French Resistance Manon character.
How sad that gaming has sunk so low over the last few years.
Ethnicity
This makes me wonder if the person understood what defines a person's ethnicity
If they did, they would probably have left it out because it's completely redundant as the very definition of it includes every group already listed in the rules plus any other possible group you could come up with.
Religion
This one brings up an interesting question.
Does this rule only apply to the servers or does it also apply to the forums.
I only ask because I remember a post from someone were they shared their child's cute little Sunday school question about the world. Someone responded that the child was being brainwashed behind the parents back.
So my question is, does a divisive statement like that on the server deserve a kick but is acceptable on the forum?
Then there is the other alternative, it's automatically acceptable regardless of where because an Admin said it and apparently what they say goes.
Sexual Orientation
Again, I fail to see how a person's sexual orientation could possibly have anything to do with a game but you're the boss, so whatever floats your boat.
I guess you could say MOB's official stance is the same as the U.S. Government.
Don't Ask.... Don't Tell.....
Whenever I hear that phrase I always think of the movie "Revenge of the Nerds"
When the group of nerds finally gets accepted as a chapter of the all black fraternity Lambda Lambda Lambda.
The sole Black member chimes in to change the fraternity membership requirements to "or regardless of sexual orientation"
FlashBack with me now to 1984
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkzAJs7NutM
Does that bring back some memories?

Since the New-N-Improved MOB server rules now reflect a whole new level of lame ass political correctness.
I would like to help out by making a few suggestions of other special/protected groups you could add into the rules.

Weight
It's a daily occurrence that someone will tell another player to move their fat ass because said player is blocking a doorway or something.
How sad and uncaring would it be that MOB would allow someone to say something so offensive.
For all anyone knows that may be some grossly obese person who is unable to get out of their house an who's lone enjoyment in life is playing a video game.
Shame on you MOB for not protecting the rights of the grossly obese.
Physical Characteristics
If your going to limit comments which may be seen as offensive to weight, then you may as well include all other possible physical Characteristics. You shouldn't allow any statements which may be deemed as offensive based on physical appearance. This would also ban any discussion of midget tossing.
Newbie's
What about people who simply suck at the game.
Don't you think it's unfair they are often insulted for their inability to play the game well?
Doesn't MOB care about the newbies?
If MOB cared, they would outlaw all mention of an individuals ability or lack there of, in regards to how they play the game.
Age
I see no mention of age.
Surely that doesn't mean MOB supports age based discrimination
Disability
I'm not sure if this would also fall under the previously mentioned "Physical Characteristics" group.
You guys should have a discussion an come to an agreement if physical handicap is already protected under "Physical Characteristics"
Opps sorry, I forgot MOB doesn't have discussions anymore.
Veteran Status
With the current flood of "support the troops" rhetoric
I think it's only appropriate MOB should also ban any speech on the server which could be seen as offensive to those people who have served in the military, past or present.
Just to be safe, you could make that include past, present and possible future military service.
Political Affiliation
While Political Affiliation should be seen as fair game in political debates on the forum, it probably shouldn't be allowed on the server.
Technical Ineptitude
Just because some people are computer illiterate, doesn't mean they deserve to be insulted.
Nationality
I don't know how you could have missed that one.
Mental Defect
If someone suffers from a mental defect ( bipolar ) which results in the person acting like an ass on the server.
Then shouldn't they be allowed to act like an ass, since it's not their fault.
For that matter, what gives anyone else the right to question a player's misbehaviour
Economic Status
It shouldn't matter if you're rich or poor.
Intelligence Level
If someone is acting like a total dumb ass in the game, everyone should be required to ignore them and not mention it. Otherwise you run the risk of insulting someone as they may be a total dumb ass in real life.
Internet Connection.
It's down right discriminatory to mention someone's ping.
It's not their fault their interent connect sucks, so you shouldn't hold that against them.



It's my recommendation to change the rule for profanity to read as follows.
Although we don't consider the MOB servers as G-rated, excessive or constant use of profanity is not allowed in chat or players names.
Any language that may be regarded as abusive or offensive associated to race, gender, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, weight, physical characteristics, inability to play the game well, age, disability, veteran status, political affiliation, technical ineptitude, nationality, mental defect, economic status, intelligence level or Internet connection will get you kicked or banned.

It may be a mouth full but the New-N-Improved MOB's level of Political Correctness requires no less.

Just trying to help out and to prove it, even if you don't like my new list of server rules, you should at least spell check the current ones.
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Robert
post 03/29/08 1:31pm
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Bullet hit on something I previously couldn't put into words.
I'm sure the little admin group sees the majority of people moving to the new site as justification for what they have said an done.
Nothing could be further form the truth. For most people it's simply to keep playing with the people they know.
It's not done for the bogus reasons the admins offered, what little reasons they even bothered to offer.
As I've already had several people tell me:
* They don't agree with what happened......
* Sure maybe the admins lied about this or that, but it's not worth the trouble....
* MOB had lost it's sense of everyone is equal and has the same say.
People just want to keep gaming with the people they know.
Or others went because they wanted to stay part of the TWL team since they are doing so well.
So Super Duper Admins, don't be so quick to tell yourself how right you are.
For the most part, people didn't go because of you.
People went regardless of you.

On the other side of that, there are the people who have been vocal in supporting the change.
That's fine, everybody is entitled to their opinion.
Even with most of them it's because they MISTAKENLY take what I say about the New-N-Improved MOB to personal.
For those people, I've already suggested it would be in their best interest if they would stick to the new "More Secure" site because they probably are not going to like what they read here.
It's not my fault if you mistakenly take what I saw about TheOtherMob as a personal attack on you.
While we're on that subject, I would like to point out what made (MOB) and Mobclan.com so special doesn't have jack to do with the name.
I actually get a laugh out of you guys not changing the name.
Since for the most part you've turned your back on what made MOB so successful over the years.
Here's a hint, it didn't have anything to do with who happen to be the admins at any given time. MOB was the success BECAUSE the admins were only people doing a job. Not this ruling class a small group has turned themsleves into. Decision use to be made as a group, not 3-4 people who hold themselves above everyone.
I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt an say you may have done everything with the best intentions.
You know the old saying, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Sure, maybe two of you did if with only good intentions but the other was strictly ego run rampant.
You guys can decide among yourself which one is which.

So you have MOB in you domain name and MOB as part of your server name.
Well hot damn... Goody for you....
That's about as meaningful as a kid painting "Porshe" or "BMW" on the back of his sub-compact and bragging about his new sports car.
Any special meaning there was to the MOB name has just been lost.
Congratulations.

For those who enjoyed my personal reflections on the change to the rules.
Be sure to stop back by as I post new personal reflections over such items as.....
* The humor behind the "New More Secure" site
* Sex, Lies & Videotape.... or in this case, Lies, Lies & Lies.
* My amazing physic powers of manipulation which have allowed me to force changes on TheOtherMob.com even though I don't have an account there.
* antiMOB or sometimes called MOB to BOM , tips for turning success into failure.

It you think it's funny, great.
I remember reading somewhere once that MOB was
FUN and FRIENDS are ALWAYS more important than winning!!
So whats wrong with a little funny observation between friends.

If you think it's sour grapes, well that's just to bad and it sucks to be you.
So either stick to your new "More Secure" site as I've already suggested on more than one occasion.
Or, sit down & shut up unless you are actually going to have the balls to say something more substantive than whining about how wrong I am.
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post 04/05/08 2:42pm
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QUOTE(Robert @ 03/29/08 2:31pm) *
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......... Goody for you....
That's about as meaningful as a kid painting "Porshe" or "BMW" on the back of his sub-compact and bragging about his new sports car.
.........



LOL laugh.gif ......... Kind of sums it up.


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Robert   Server rules   03/24/08 2:01pm
Shred   I'm confused. Do they still allow Hue G. Recti...   03/24/08 3:12pm
Robert   I think that name would now only be allowed if use...   03/24/08 3:17pm
Cross of Iron   Robert ,thanks for the great laugh ,I had a busy d...   03/24/08 4:49pm
realdeal   Is the name Dixon Alltheway still allowed?   03/24/08 5:16pm
Shred   Is the name Dixon Alltheway still allowed? ...   03/24/08 7:27pm
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Hellfighter   This is looking more and more like the bss forums...   03/25/08 11:08am
Keystone Two-Eight   I dont get it, whats so wrong with revising the ru...   03/25/08 12:50pm
Crazy Canuck   This is looking more and more like the bss forum...   03/25/08 2:55pm
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HammaTime   Hey Cory, I think you are misinterpreting a bit he...   03/25/08 9:49am
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Robert   Druid, please ban me from these forums! Have ...   03/25/08 10:07am
Shred   Whenever I hear “secure server” I smile. Do...   03/25/08 1:12pm
Robert   Ohhh boo fucking hooo. Cry me a river BTW I have...   03/25/08 3:10pm
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Hellfighter   i dont feel this forums is promoting sour grapes ...   03/26/08 6:27am
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Cpt.Canuck   So... uhh... I just got back from being away for 3...   03/26/08 11:11am
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Cpt.Canuck   [quote name='Cpt.Canuck' post='172047' date='03/2...   03/26/08 1:55pm
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Blitz   Cpt. Here was all of the public discussion (threr...   03/26/08 7:20pm
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Robert   At one point 8 members of MOB thought my server ru...   03/27/08 9:17am
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|$aucy|   And Slimshady. Don't you ever fucking tel...   03/27/08 11:28am
Slimshady   Shred although none of your concern, i'm in un...   03/27/08 12:11pm
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|$aucy|   These forums are certainly entertaining nowadays.   03/28/08 8:06pm
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Robert   Bullet hit on something I previously couldn't ...   03/29/08 1:31pm
Hellfighter   ........ ......... Goody for you.... That's a...   04/05/08 2:42pm
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