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{FBI}Kosmic=-1-=
whatever happened to this guy? he use to own everything in sight... ph34r.gif

thanks: -kos-
little old man
He is alive and well in the MOB family biggrin.gif .So be very careful when moving in around in any map. sad.gif sad.gif
Kirby
Neato! I have not heard that saying in awhile. " WHO DARES WINS " was the British SAS (simular to Green Berets) symbol worn as armpatches in WW2. I have the pin but saying is hard to see on this.
{FBI}Kosmic=-1-=
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He is alive and well in the MOB family  biggrin.gif .So be very careful when moving in around in any map. sad.gif  sad.gif

thanks l.o.m:i will be very carefule not to awake the allmighty oppressions biggrin.gif

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  Neato! I have not heard that saying in awhile. " WHO DARES WINS " was the British SAS (simular to Green Berets) symbol worn as armpatches in WW2. I have the pin but saying is hard to see on this.

yo!kirby thats were i got that motto from...i saw a documentary about it and heard that motto,so it stuck in my head....somehow it is fitting for this game dribble.gif
Kirby
Kirby wouldn't kid you. Who Dares Wins, has been the SAS motto since WW2 and they are operating in Afganistan and Iraq right now. They wear the same icon as I posted above, sword with wings. I bet the documentry was on the SAS. I actually have a movie called the same depicting the SAS starring Dirk Bogarde, Hey old man you want that movie :) WHO DARES WINS (Story of the British SAS)
Kirby
In Afganistan: SAS in Afganistan
Epacy
Wow, nothing has changed. Threads become off topic so quickly. Kirby has ruined the Opp and Epacy threads. Almost every thread in this public forum turns into who can post the stupidest pic.

Welcome back Opp.
***crafty***
tongue.gif welcome back man.
realdeal
QUOTE (Epacy @ Dec 12 2003, 06:33 PM)
Wow, nothing has changed. Threads become off topic so quickly. Kirby has ruined the Opp and Epacy threads. Almost every thread in this public forum turns into who can post the stupidest pic.

Welcome back Opp.

Pay no attention to the grinch.
Kirby
Not so EPACY kiddo, I was talking about the British SAS in other topic. All I did here was post your leather suit you wear at home while you spawn kill all of us in the games. You never post anything, your too busy with the verbal insulting in game to make up for it I guess. Also not everything is on topic, if you read it you would notice, and I didnt post this topic you dingbat! Read again.

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Kirby
{FBI}Kosmic=-1-=
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Kirby wouldn't kid you. Who Dares Wins, has been the SAS motto since WW2 and they are operating in Afganistan and Iraq right now


hey kirby,maby i should have made myself clear....what i meant to say was i saw a documentary about the SAS somewere and heard that motto(for what its worth) biggrin.gif

also: nice to here opp is still with you guys cool.gif
Kirby
I do have one question for you on topic Epacy, is that a baby sucking on a nipple for the Avatar. If you enhance it thats what it appears to be. Is that your Avatar?

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Kirby
{FBI}Kosmic=-1-=
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I do have one question for you on topic Epacy, is that a baby sucking on a nipple for the Avatar. If you enhance it thats what it appears to be. Is that your Avatar?

OUCH! this is gonna get ugly love-smiley-076.gif ....im out
thanks again for you responses guys biggrin.gif
Kirby
I think what happend is EPACY read my comments about the younger ones in the game and took it to heart. I asked him in the game today if he appologized to everyone he spawnkilled after noticing he had 37 kills and 1 death. I watched him, and he knows I don't spawn kill intentional. I mean is that the point of this game, not to let the opposite enemy appear and get into the game and give him a chance? I see a lot of younger players playing this way, and all for Stats only, no other reason, just stats. Letting the guy get in game, and getting a "clean kill" is the most enjoyable way. Multiple spawn killing is this.... trying to impress fellow players on your team by the end of the game of your score only, and not how you got it the score (not letting opposing players appear in game "spawn killing"). It's good to see some games coming out now that allow the player a chance to appear in the game. Without the spawn kills down the road it will be interesting to see the scoreboards for certain players change. This is no complaint, it's just pointing out one downfall of this particular game. The one doing the spawn killing, could care less that the one appearing will not likely come back to that particular server again after players do not let him appear in the bloody game to begin with. I bet we lost some great players over time due to other players having no regard for common manners, adn thats what it boils down to... " manners." That is why I let the players go on appearing unless it's in error. I don't look at players trying to reach spawn areas of the enemy to gain points as good players. They just end up making it a lousy game for the guy on the other end.

On topic Epacy?
99SVTCobra
Is this the BaH server?? If you dont like spawn killing (which was in mind with the development of the game) go elsewhere. If you dont like our style of play, tough luck...

PS. This bitching is uncharacteristic of you Kirby. Where did this come from?
Kirby
Cobra you been drinking? Listen up, no one likes to be spawn killed. You missed the point also you didnt read what I said. You look at what I said and you prove what I said to be wrong. As far is not liking it, of course not. Now listen again, if everyone on this server left because they didnt approve of spawn killing then there would not be a hell of a lot of players left on this server, so dont give me the shit talk and read exactly what I posted.

Kirby
99SVTCobra
QUOTE (Epacy @ Dec 12 2003, 04:33 PM)
Wow, nothing has changed. Threads become off topic so quickly. Kirby has ruined the Opp and Epacy threads. Almost every thread in this public forum turns into who can post the stupidest pic.

Welcome back Opp.

By the way, agreed.....
99SVTCobra
QUOTE (Kirby @ Dec 12 2003, 06:42 PM)
Cobra you been drinking? Listen up, no one likes to be spawn killed. You missed the point also you didnt read what I said. You look at what I said and you prove what I said to be wrong. As far is not liking it, of course not. Now listen again, if everyone on this server left because they didnt approve of spawn killing then there would not be a hell of a lot of players left on this server, so dont give me the shit talk and read exactly what I posted.

Kirby

I LOVE being spawn killed. The BEST players find it a challenge to work themselves out of these situations.
Panzer
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I mean is that the point of this game, not to let the opposite enemy appear and get into the game and give him a chance? I see a lot of younger players playing this way, and all for Stats only, no other reason, just stats. Letting the guy get in game, and getting a "clean kill" is the most enjoyable way. Multiple spawn killing is this.... trying to impress fellow players on your team by the end of the game of your score only, and not how you got it the score (not letting opposing players appear in game "spawn killing").


So your not bitching about spawn killing then?

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This is no complaint, it's just pointing out one downfall of this particular game


Had me fooled

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I bet we lost some great players over time due to other players having no regard for common manners, adn thats what it boils down to... " manners."


I would like to think with the exception for this post I am pretty well mannered

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On topic Epacy?


Actually, NO. The thread was regarding Oppression & then became twisted and turned into a flame war that is tired & has gotten to the point where ppl are tired of hearing the moaning, crying, & bitching associated with it.

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Cobra you been drinking?


What do you think?

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so dont give me the shit talk


Since it is the MOB forums plz. do the same for us as well. biggrin.gif

Panzer
Kirby
I see two sides to spawn killing comments in the MOB server, some do it and some do not. Just like any player. The point I made was not to bitch, just point out what it does to the game, and how the ones getting spawn killed are effected...... by not returning to the game. I myself just leave if I am spawn killed over and over, I dont see much sense in staying if I can't get in haha. Besides cobra you must know yourself, some players in MOB do not approve of it. come on bud do you really think I am alone? I would say by far most players do not approve of this low tactic of brownie points.

If your in a match, and the other side is doing it to you, go for it. If your trying to attract good potential players into a server do you think spawn killing attracts or puts off the player. They leave of course. That is my point. I wonder how many over time that would had been players we could had gone up against leave because they were killed before getting a chance to appear in the game, mark the server as a " no go " highlight, and never return.

You guys that spawn kill your so on the defense that you fail to even understand what I posted. Just bringing up the topic upsets the players that do it. I compared a " clean kill " with spawn killing. I fail to understand the gratification of not letting the opposite player appearing in the game. So I assume its only done for the stats.

I let players play the way they want, but my opinion has always been I am against it. Many times thru the old sniper rifle I let guys going that appear. Who knows, in the past it could had been you, Hoods, JP, Stone, etc, people that made it through several MOB games without repeated spawn kills. I would be gone in a flash if it happened over and over. But it only happens on occasion when those few that intentionally go for spawn kill areas appear.

One final point, I have never read that this game was made with the intention of the developers of creating it for spawn killing. I don't think gamers would be developing games that give a chance for the person to appear and move a time frame to eliminate the spawn kills, if this were the case. It appears to me that this was just another flaw in the game, that was to late to correct. If you have a link saying this was part of the development send it cobra.

Don't be so aggressive you spawn killing cussing.gif I am only showing the disadvantages of this particular game.

Are you going to spawn kill kirby for this post? hehe
99SVTCobra
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Besides cobra you must know yourself, some players in MOB do not approve of it


Can you name one?

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I wonder how many over time that would had been players we could had gone up against leave because they were killed before getting a chance to appear in the game, mark the server as a " no go " highlight, and never return.


I have a hard time agreeing with this as well. Should read more like: I wonder how many shitty noobs we lost because of this. Sounds much better to me.

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I compared a " clean kill " with spawn killing. I fail to understand the gratification of not letting the opposite player appearing in the game. So I assume its only done for the stats.


Next time I will be sure to count to 10. How pathetic. In war, and you saw an enemy truck pull up. Would you; A. Let them out, and let them get READY before you start to shoot, or B. Start shooting the shit out of the poor bastards. If you said A than you are french.

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I let players play the way they want, but my opinion has always been I am against it. Many times thru the old sniper rifle I let guys going that appear. Who knows, in the past it could had been you, Hoods, JP, Stone, etc, people that made it through several MOB games without repeated spawn kills. I would be gone in a flash if it happened over and over. But it only happens on occasion when those few that intentionally go for spawn kill areas appear.


I wish you would have spawn killed me in these instances, probably would have made me a better player.

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One final point, I have never read that this game was made with the intention of the developers of creating it for spawn killing. I don't think gamers would be developing games that give a chance for the person to appear and move a time frame to eliminate the spawn kills, if this were the case. It appears to me that this was just another flaw in the game, that was to late to correct. If you have a link saying this was part of the development send it cobra.


If the post is still up I will be sure to provide you with a link. Anyone want some bon bons? How about a Midol?

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Are you going to spawn kill kirby for this post? hehe


Indeed
Kirby
No Panzer I was not bitching, I was discussing the downfall points of this tactic. If I were bitching it would had been a post I applied over a year ago when I first appeared on these servers. Some approve, some do not. There well always be pros and cons to this topic as it is sensitive, especially for the ones that approve of it, because I knew they would be the first ones to jump all over.

Basically too I wanted to see the ones post that were for it. Us non-spawn killers want to know who are the culprits, and that way what team to join. Most I do know already, but some I was still not sure if they did it intentional smile.gif



wink.gif

99SVTCobra
Final point.

Would I beat you without spawn killing?
Epacy
QUOTE (Kirby @ Dec 12 2003, 08:23 PM)
No Panzer I was not bitching, I was discussing the downfall points of this tactic. If I were bitching it would had been a post I applied over a year ago when I first appeared on these servers. Some approve, some do not. There well always be pros and cons to this topic as it is sensitive, especially for the ones that approve of it, because I knew they would be the first ones to jump all over.

Basically too I wanted to see the ones post that were for it. Us non-spawn killers want to know who are the culprits, and that way what team to join. Most I do know already, but some I was still not sure if they did it intentional smile.gif



wink.gif

Wow, if that isn't a case of tucking your tail and running......
Kirby
I can name several by listening to comments over time, but I would not say who. And dont tell me its 100 percent approval for spawn killing by all players. There were always 2 sides and you know yourself who does it and who does not do it. You can tell in the games yourself hell, you don't need me to say.

I totally disagree on the the how many noobs we lost, hell if you spawn killed them and they took off, you would had never known if they were good in the game or not. You may of caught them in one game spawn killed over and over, so they left.

Tell you what, for those spawn killing pros out there.... haha. You tell Kirby the advantages to it. I laid out several disadvantages here other than self - stat brownie points. Now its time to listen to a proper explaination from the other side. " The Spawn Killer side "




Panzer
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I totally disagree on the the how many noobs we lost, hell if you spawn killed them and they took off, you would had never known if they were good in the game or not. You may of caught them in one game spawn killed over and over, so they left.


If they are not mature enough, and able to take it like a man then good riddance

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Tell you what, for those spawn killing pros out there.... haha. You tell Kirby the advantages to it. I laid out several disadvantages here other than self - stat brownie points. Now its time to listen to a proper explaination from the other side. " The Spawn Killer side "


!stats

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Kirby
Kirby never runs away panzer, I have been playing longer then you here buddy. I am a survivor of all spawn killing sissys.

You know, none of you's need to spawn kill. I see even some of the spawn killers (not all) as damn good players, but there only disadvantage is they get into a spawn killing frenzy when they have the opportunity. They make some great kills, then they go do that crap. That is the only annoying thing I see, some players with great potential, and great scores, even beyond spawn killing. What I am saying is they can do very well without the spawn killing tactics.

Now stop quoteing my points and turning them around as bitching to put it all off, and tell me what the advantages are to the spawn killing. Look at me as a new kid in class trying to understand the teacher ok. hehe.

You may spawn kill kirby but he's too proud to spawn kill you. wink.gif

Anyway my points are made ill read what the positive skills? are to spawn killing then if you convince me after all this time its a good thing, ill tell you what cobra you will be the first one I spawn kill with my new attitude ok? laugh.gif
Kirby
Yep Cobra you would probabally beat me without spawn killing. To be honest I never thought of you as one. Only 2 main guys I see are major spawn killers in MOB. Others do it in stride once in while, and one outstanding player who does it outside of MOB, he knows who he is, that needs not to do it got get a great score.

I am lucky to past 30 kills and a 2 to one ratio myself. Only because i dont always use the gernades and I don't spawn kill unless by accident. Also game depends on connection. Have 17 inch monitor. Skill in my book depends on your connection, your ping), your computer system, and your mouse. The rest is skill, whats that 30 percent? how to aim a mouse quick? Mostly equipment your using again. I would love to see us all have the same pings, computers etc, that would be a treat, but it won't happen. That guy in Texas is always 90 percent of time gonna kick that guys ass 2000 - 3000 miles away, no exception.
Panzer
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Kirby never runs away panzer


I know, you hide.

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That is the only annoying thing I see, some players with great potential, and great scores, even beyond spawn killing. What I am saying is they can do very well without the spawn killing tactics.


Your right, with spawn killing they do better.

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You may spawn kill kirby but he's too proud to spawn kill you.


More kills for me

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Anyway my points are made ill read what the positive skills? are to spawn killing then if you convince me after all this time its a good thing


Are you really rubbertoe? I'm confused now.

Time to go ogl style on you Kirby

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99SVTCobra
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Anyway my points are made ill read what the positive skills?


Total map domination.

Total game domination.

Only Disadvantage is (to most an advantage) that it scares the noobs away.
realdeal
What in God's name is going in here man? Kirby, have you been smoking Angel Dust?

I just want to know who in MOB doesn't approve of spawn killing.... hehe tongue.gif
Wassy
WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD !!
Kirby
Wait not yet. Old man, all those times I blew you up in Algiers by the boxes? You lost your teeth you said, well I think I found them....

{SOTC}Killem
tention tention In here...........

I look at it this way

IT IS KILL OR BE KILLED tongue.gif


Like MOB's LOGO
{FBI}Kosmic=-1-=
yo kirby-i dont know you but like cobra said,finding your way out of spawnkilling,olny makes you better.....i know this from experiance biggrin.gif
so i didnt wanna start shit......but if this is the way this thread is leadin can someone please close this thread sad.gif
btw:cobra my brotha said he knows you from long time ago...

ohh yeah i also have been drinking.....i kinda see the letters fuzzy,can someone please tell me what the hell is going on here tongue.gif
Kirby
Thats ok Kosmic, it's not the best topic to bring up I guess. There are ones that agree and disagree on this topic and it will always be argued by several players down the road. Both Panzer and Cobra are very good in the game, and thats without the spawn stuff, so I never understood why such good gamers resort to it. But to each his own. I will abstain myself. wink.gif

Cold_Beer
Kirby, I bash you so regularly, that being spawn killed should be the least
of your worries.
Ateurnus
God damn politicians.


At
Johnzillah
QUOTE (Cold_Beer @ Dec 14 2003, 05:51 PM)
Kirby, I bash you so regularly, that being spawn killed should be the least
of your worries.

lol!!!

Zillah
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