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Mr.Scruff
i have to write a 5 page essay on whether or not the North African Campaign was a turning point in WW2.

any help, information, or your input would be very useful to me!



thank you

pezking
Hitler should've gone into the Middle East instead of Russia... unlimited oil resources.

I think the major thing that African Campaign accomplished was tank battles and strategies.
CommanderChoth
Local library....
Bargod
I believe that common concensus has it that Africa was a turning point in the war. Maybe not a decisive point, but definately a turning point. By defeating the Afrika Korps and taking back North Africa, the Allies were able to Launch attacks into Sicily and Italy removing the Italians from the war. The loss of Africa forced the Germans hand into invading Russia to get to oil instead of an easier route through the middle east. Because of the terrain, they were forced to go North before they could turn south to get to the oil.
This of course is how I remember learning about it. You need to verify and document your sources.
Hellfighter
A big turning point in my opinion.
For the British they finally got their 'winning' Commander, Montgomery.
For the Germans, the famed Afrika Korps.. and Rommel were beaten.... furthermore Scruff you can mention how this fact and Rommel's illness got him switched to building up the Atlantic fortress - a major concern for the Allies to pull everything together in the highest methodology possible to crack it open. This enhanced the Allies HQ abilities dramatically in my opinion.
For the Americans, major military shake-up with the humiliating defeats at Kasserine Pass. Hello Patton tongue.gif
Western Allies now had confidence they could win - and attack finally!
For the Axis they now had to shrink their frontage and go on the defensive in the soft-underbelly front of Mediterranean Europe.
Denial of the German attempt to control Egypt and thus the serious consequences of interdicting Allied supply routes from this area to the Far East Asian Front were nullified.
As BG mentioned, denial to the Axis of mid-east oil via an attack from Egypt was a crucial phase.
As mentioned the American landings were another step in developing amphibious assaults later in Sicily and Italy.

Actually Italy didn't surrender after defeat in North Africa, in fact they surrendered after Sicily's invasion and a couple of months after Mussolini was done in... Though they lost much of their army in N.Africa a few elite units were still fighting alongside the Germans in Sicily, and many times more non-Elite ones... here's an excerpt of how big the Italian forces were at this stage after the mass surrender of many Axis units in Tunisia '43;

from here; http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/Brochures/72-16/72-16.htm

"Although Allied planners opted to concentrate their ground forces in the anticipation of tough Axis resistance, the actual combat capability of Axis troops deployed in Sicily was questionable. Axis forces consisted of between 200,000 and 300,000 Italian and about 30,000 German troops under the overall command of General Alfredo Guzzoni's Italian VI Army. The Italians were organized into six coastal divisions, four infantry divisions, and a variety of local defense forces. Many of these units were woefully deficient in equipment, training, and morale and would prove incapable of putting up serious resistance. In fact, many Italian soldiers were tired of Mussolini's disastrous war and would surrender at the first opportunity. The German troops were divided into two divisions, the 15th Panzer Grenadier and the Hermann Goering Panzer. They formed the hard core of Sicily's defenses. The 15th Panzer Grenadier Division was essentially combat ready, but the Hermann Goering Division was significantly understrength and contained some inexperienced personnel."
pezking
Be sure to mention Indiana Jones and the Arc too. tongue.gif
Hellfighter
QUOTE(pezking @ 04/18/06 12:05pm) *
Be sure to mention Indiana Jones and the Arc too. tongue.gif


BWAHAHAAAAA ....Good One Pez , laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif !!!!

ps.ummm Scruff, how come you posted this thread in this forum?? unsure.gif
Silver
QUOTE(Mr.Scruff @ 04/17/06 8:56pm) *

i have to write a 5 page essay on whether or not the North African Campaign was a turning point in WW2.

any help, information, or your input would be very useful to me!



thank you

what are the guide line? (double spaced, font, title page, MLA format?, number of sources <and what type?? example internet etc...> and what grade are you in, or college?)
Mr.Scruff
thank you very much for the helpful information hellFIghter (by the way i made a mistake by posting it here)



silver it has to be 5 pages ,double spaced typed, font size like 12



Hellfighter
QUOTE(Mr.Scruff @ 04/18/06 4:03pm) *


silver it has to be 5 pages ,double spaced typed, font size like 12





No problemo, Scruff and as for font size....

font size 12!!!!

this is size 7
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if its 12 whistling.gif methinks the teacher wants to get through the papers fast...
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<Dolphin>*Girl*
no 12 comes out like we type on the forums in a word document average size for term papers is 12....
Mr.Scruff
QUOTE(<Dolphin>*Girl* @ 04/18/06 5:17pm) *
no 12 comes out like we type on the forums in a word document average size for term papers is 12....


lol thanks dolphingirl



yeah font 12 is pretty small, its like average for typed assignments

Hellfighter
QUOTE(<Dolphin>*Girl* @ 04/18/06 5:17pm) *
no 12 comes out like we type on the forums in a word document average size for term papers is 12....


I learn so much new stuff in these forums...... biggrin.gif
banno22
the african campaign was a good point for the british when they got monty comanding the tanks and the soldiers their all it was basicly tank battles and air support and artillary and some infantry i love the african campaign including the battle of el alamain great battle mobrules.gif
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