RealDeal --I need to talk to you about these screenshots. These are from one of your members to one of ours.
fuballa@aol.com

--these screenshots you sent me of the conversation you had have a few MAJOR problems.

1. The crosshair has been COPY/PASTED over your REAL crosshair. If you d/l the screenshot, you'll notice the extreme pixel contrast. You used the same crosshair in EVERY one of your screenshots. I don't mean your crosshair mod, I mean the copy/pasted crosshair. The pixelation is the EXACT same in EVERY screenshot. Thus you copy/pasted the stock crosshair over your cheat crosshair.

2. To further prove my copy/paste theory....when your screenshot writer takes a pic, it has the words "Wrote screenshot/Shotxxx.tga". These words are OVER the crosshair, directly in the middle of it. Your crosshair in the SS is OVER the text, instead of being under it like it should be.


I am extremely curious to know why you would doctor a screenshot to send us a text of a conversation. Even if you had a dot crosshair or some special mod for a crosshair...why would you hide that?. IMO you copy/pasted over an triggerbot crosshair which you KNEW we'd pick up on. Fortunately for us you suck w/ photoshop and were extrememly hasty in your work. Now we can add your name to our list next to DiOnYsOs' name.

Thanks for your efforts-
{-BaH-} Balla

Here is another example of the exact same pixelation error that you screwed up. Thanks for busting yourself. No wonder you were taking DiO's back so hardcore.

Hey Ballah the funny thing is, those screenshots were taken by Dio. Dio sent those screenshots to me to show me that your little buddy was accusing me of cheating. Maybe you should get your facts straight before you come on our forum and publically bash me. I was not present for that conversation. It is funny that you examined these screenshots so closely, but fail to notice that Dio is the one doing all the talking.

either way--I figured it was you since you sent the e-mail. I don't know your names or emails...sorry for putting your name in there. this then implicates DiO.
Sorry cobra for the confusion. Him talking really didn't mean that it was his SS or yours.

anywho, whoever it was!!! needs to be dealt with by somebody over there.

Someone asked me why we banned you the other day....I didn't ban anyone. Nobody except for DiO is banned from our servers for 3 reasons.

1. Failure to send in forced random SS on time.

2. Failure to send in the correct forced random SS (even of correct map lol).

3. Failure to produce a CLEAN SS now! Ty dio ---lol

All apologies to Cobra

Im no expert but it looks legit to me. A lot of guys run diffrent crosshairs. Is that cheating? I thought the screenshots were forced to see if someone was running a chameleon wallhack. Could it be during the tga to jpeg converson you loose certain aspects of the image. Here is my screen shot and it almost looks the same near the crosshair. I doubt Cobra is cheating.

Zillah

well since you DELETED three time my threads on your forum I will post here what I have post on your forum. It's nice to ignore someone you played with so many time respect.

It's a terrible mistake you have done by banning me cuz i wasn't cheating. The facts are this was the first time someone forced a screenshot on me. So I was a little confused. This is why I have send some randoms SS of snowy. The 4 first ss taken were the good ones and they look a little weird becuz I was dead when they were taken you can see in the bottom left yolala in red. that mean he killed me. secondly I have a completely clear folder since I have do a complete reinstall of mohaa and spearhead to be able to play in the FK server in my clan MOB server 2. If I use any skin or whatever SVpure will detect it and i will not be able to join the server thats why I dont have any skins in my folders you can scan it do whatever you want but im clean. third why you have banned Cobra in my clan jampack told me he was jumping and killing people then you scan him and found a cheat or its just becuz he wear the mob tag. Finnaly I don't know why you have go to see my guys balla and don't have talk to me to set this problem. I have nothing to hide and I will say that again I tottaly stands against cheating you are making a terrible error...

thanks again for banning us with no real proofs...

and ps don't delete this thread again...

Oh and balla I dont have photoshop... I don't even know how it works.

I have talk to wizz but he was ignoring me then kickded me and I have sent you the real SS the 4 first one + 6 randoms screenies the email sent to Wizz the don't care about the last ones on snowy I was confused... just ask neo he would told ya I was lost its why i say wtf on the forced ones... and for the crosshairs thats easy go in Options / Video / Brightness... if im cheating this is my cheat (brightness) and of course play the best MOB guys... Im sure if any mob guy go in your server they can have scores like mine.
Someone of your clan also talked to me like a month ago that you were really pissed out of me becuz i waz doing too much good on your server and you were talking in my back in your private forum thats why i wasnt comming lately. Then I said why not and now you accuse me you have the right screnies + some randoms and you accuse me of cheating without any proof... or just because I have added more screenshots. NICE

Again thanks for deleting my post in your forums I have sent it a couples time to see if you are good guys... this trully sadden me.

Balla....I have some very extensive PS experience and do see what your saying....



..however, if you also possess knowledge of PS in a professional sense, you would understand that:

One, yes you could be correct...only DIO can tell you that.

Two, any noobskool using PS can easily create and or damamge the quality of an image document by not utilizing the correct tools and not using the correct editing/format for saving. (Conversion from RGB color, indexed color, bitmap, lab, grayscale, ect....)

Not having the original image file, I have no idea.

My point:

Have some respect for your self before posting and making such implications towards anyone, it makes you look even lower than the person cheating. Just sounds like you're whining.

Next time, contact the clan's leader or most significant member directly and not the forums. Every member is listed and easily accessible on their site. I am sure that MOB will take responsibility for their members as long you handle your complaint professionally and with respect towards their other memebers who were not involved.


And finally, have you even talked to DIO to see what he has to say?

Thats like convicting a guy and telling him he's guilty without even giving him an attorney....or even letting him speak!

Sigma I have tried to talk to them but they seems to ignore me and they deleted my post.
I have been on their server but wizz kicked me so I had not the luck to talk to them. Well since they will come here and make false accusation on me thats got no point and just shock me cause they are wrong. I let you make a scan of my computer if you want im sure faster got the skills to do that or anyone else. If I post again on your forum don't delete it again it will only show that you guys have no maturity.

as johnzilla said Could it be during the tga to jpeg converson you loose certain aspects of the image. Here is my screen shot and it almost looks the same near the crosshair. I doubt Cobra is cheating.

im using Pic2Pic Plus you can find it at download.com
and converting at the highest level of quality.
you can do the test if you want and I use it for mass converting files
i can convert all my screenie in one click.


Finnaly balla this is the most funny accusations becuz why I would do that ??? I have nothing to proove. then this make nonsense I don't have to waste my time on reworking screenshots for a thing that i know I don't cheat.

Sigma-chi you are right. Bah Fu BaH LLa if you have a problem with any MOB player you should have first contacted us by E-mail first. We don't hide all you have to do is get them from the forums page.

Now you have accused two of our best players of cheating and the only prove you have our a few SS of a cross hair. There are no other players in these SS just cross hairs.Now I've never been to your server but are all cross hairs other then standard that come with the game banned from your server

What this sounds like to me is a couple of players come into a clan server. These players are a lot better then the people playing on this server and their scores show it .This does not make the Clan that runs the server look good so they ban the two players because they say they must be cheating.BaH says Dio didn't send in SS in a reasonable amount of time and when he did they were wrong.No one but Dio knows if this is true or not. Mob handles this the same way.

I believe you just didn't want to getting beat-up in your own server.You have the right to run your server the way you want and to play at the level you want to. If players come in that are a few levels above you tell them this and if they don't then take action

One last thing (again don't know if this is true never been to your site only whats posted here). It is not a good idea to delete posts it kind of makes people think you have something to hide.

If by chance you have another problem and you can't find any E-mail addresses mine is
littleoldman@mobclan.com and I will see it get to the right person

How about I play on your server BAH and when I kick your ass and you accuse me of cheating, we both immediately log onto FK's which runs SV_Pure and see if I'm cheating or not!


Want some cheese with that whine?

If I really wanted, I could doctor a SS to make it look like whatever I wanted, I could even become you Balla!

It would only take aboutt two minutes in Photoshop........but why bother?

This is just a game!

*shakes head*

BAH, u make me sick. Balla, your the same one that came into GDEC and ammited to using a wallhack to me. I use to be called {GDEC} Vassili Zaitsev. You accused me of cheating, while u made unbelievable shots. So I said, You using a skin?, and i quote you saying "Yes, and I know u are too". Though i no-longer have that screen shot, becuase my clan just started using Pandora 1.0.5 which doens't allow anything thats not "outtta-the-box" and also scans your exe, binaries, and checks for renamed pk3's, so to make sure I had everything "outta-the-box", i re-installed. It's a shame, I wish i could've posted that jpeg up here.

I suggest every clan use the newest version of pandora and make sure you download the clients since u need that to log in and connect.

Pandora 1.0.5 even catches those "undetectable" things like chams, permuation, retribution, etc".

My only suggestion is, if you want a cheat free server, make it pure, or use pandora. BAH is very disrespectful, and we will NEVER play them in a match.

By the way Little Old Man, i recruited your working buddy Rottin' Gutpile. I'm gonna make him a killing machine, mark my words

ya but if it scans the exe then we would have to have the cd in the drive no nocd cracks right

Overlord Gutpile is a fine player but i know his weak points ha ha.Just put a runny egg sandwich out and he is done This means I have to stop talking to him

hahaha. I'll try that sometime.

No, supposely the new version, allows cd cracks. Becuase it told me to install the cd crack before installing pandora.

But I tested Pandora 1.0.5 out, whew, what a beauty. it cuaght hacked exe programs like permaution, retribution, etc. ANYTHING renamed. It also prevents u from changing your name inside the game and other little stuff. It doesn't even let u ENTER THE SERVER if you have a cheat installed. Man, how that would do alot of good on the MOB # 1 server, instead of wasting MOB's time by making them spectate, becuase for some reason, people feel the need to go in their and cheat, so they look better. I hope they die

Oh and balla I have resent the ss to wizz... if you want them i can send them to you... they are the same sent but I don't have put randoms this time. The 4 first
and can you answer me about the notepad... this was the first time i saw this thing.

Nobody in MOB clan has been accused of cheating except for DiOnYsOs. Not realdeal, not cobra, not anyone else.

That being said--Dio's screenshots were EXTREMELY shady. I look at about two dozen a day and have learned which ones have been doctored and which hacks are being used. dio's crosshair was modded, its that simple.

Dio was not banned from our server for that. Custom crosshairs are sweet. I personally used the dot. Dio was banned for not sending in his screenshots in a timely manner (we waited 48 hours). Dio was also not removed from the banned list because the SS he finally did send in were not even of the map he was on. I also absolutely do not believe he doesn't know how to send in screenshots. Thats just BS. Dio was banned for violating a policy on our Forlorn server. Its that simple, nothing else was the matter other than that.

As for "getting beat up", I'm not quite sure what you mean. We played in MOB 1 alongside Cobra, we had the EXACT same score on opposing sides. There hasn't been a single MOB player that "beats" up anyone on our clan. MOB is a respectable clan that has practiced and looks efficient. On our forlorn server, with 50 people, both clans are going to rack up plenty of n00b kills. If MOB #1 ran a sv_pure type setup I would gladly come in and match anyone in your clan's score. I don't know what Dio scores on your spearhead server (#2?), but his scores on our server have been somewhat sickening. I have always been absolutely on Dio's side and friendly EVERY time he's been in there. If he says anything else its a straight up lie! If you're going to kill 100 people and die 12 times, you'd better be ready to send in a SS.

My mention of the crosshair coverup was only because I specifically said in our forum(www.bahclan.com) that we WILL NOT BAN FOR CUSTOM CROSSHAIRS, BLOOD, SOUND, OR PAINTBALL MODS. I'm sure Dio read this and knew that. Why the crosshair would have been covered up is beyond me. A few aimbots that work typically use a 4 dot crosshair, which is not available as a custom crosshair on any site. Its a specific aimbot crosshair. That was my reference to that, the only crosshair left that we would ban for.

Dio knows he violated our server policy for screenshots and thats why he was banned from that server. I like Dio's personality and have no personal problems with him. No other MOB clan member has been banned from the server EVER. No other MOB clan member has ever scored 100 kills on our server other than Dio either.

In BaH's early stages about a year ago we scrimmaged MOB, and judging from MOBs scrimmage SS, it was one of their closer matches. In no way, shape, or form is BaH trying to split MOB or even tamper with their clients security in their clan. Dio violated our policy and was banned.

I deleted his forum posts because I SPECIFICALLY EXPLAINED WHERE TO SEND THE SS TO AND HOW LONG YOU HAVE TO EMAIL THEM.

If I didn't hate spearhead with a passion and its cartoonish soldiers, I would love to prove myself. I don't feel a need to do this at all. I don't feel a need to even explain Dio's bannishment any further.

I understand a forum post is quite offensive to many, but I felt this was an issue that needed to be dealt with. I do apologize for not personally e-mailing the SS to MOB leaders, that I should have done first. I was just so pissed after seeing the crosshair being modified.

I've messed w/ Pshop plenty, and the crosshair pixelation is off and if you notice also on the SS posted above, the words should be over the crosshair, not the crosshair over the words like it was in Dio's.

QUOTE ({-BaH-} Fu BaH LLa @ Apr 27 2003, 07:11 PM)

If MOB #1 ran a sv_pure type setup I would gladly come in and match anyone in your clan's score. I don't know what Dio scores on your spearhead server (#2?), but his scores on our server have been somewhat sickening.

#1 can't be ran as sv_pure because it's an AA server.
#2 is SH and runs sv_pure around the clock.

For those of you who were talking about pandora, I'm sorry to say 1.0.5 can be bypassed. As far as I know the hack hasn't been made public like the 1.0.4 hack has been. So pandora may be safe for a while, but don't count on it.

Oh, i know it will be made public, but just as soon as they do, they will come out with another one. But just to say, you can get a millions things past CI, and nothing so far has got past Pandora. The only people who can surpass Pandora 1.0.5 would be that SH*T head "N30". Which i don't think he even plays in a clan. The only hacks that are able to get past the previous pandora was that ACV2 hack that made back-ups of the files. Knowing that came out, i quickly switched to the new pandora. ACV2 was built to surpass CI's 3 screen shots and everything else. Thats why I feel Pandora is the BEST anti-cheat out there.

And you know people will download the client to play on your server. becuase u have dedicatd players. I'd play on your server alot more actually if it ran Pandora 1.0.5 and any new ones

To many poeple come in your server cheating so they can look better than you. BAH prob one of them. It's cheaters that make me want to start my own ladder. And only accept clans that are willing to use Pandora, and clans i know don't cheat.

:sigh:

Cheaters suck, this message ruined my night.

Humbug

lol--BaH don't cheat in any way. We just train our guys w/ the rifle so they don't miss the kill down the map. We do get caught around corners sometimes ....the long range game is our best area.

Wizz was our head of security and has looked into progs like pandora, ponto, ci etc. Apparently, he's found things that bypass each one of those, honesty.cfg, a SS bypasswer, a fake SS creater(w/ serial), and of course tons of hacks that run w/o being caught. Wizz and the security team run seperate from my own authority on cheats and constantly scan our own clan to make sure no cheaters get in or near our clan. As far the cheats go, I hear that in less that a week there will be a prog to detect this bypasser(don't know the name of top of my head).

Our clan doesn't get accused that much for cheating. If you hung around long enough you'd see we have flaws. In our first match to MOB we lost because they were a well practiced team with spots camped out. We never figured camping would be such a strategic advantage and have learned from that match.

I would like to get our security guys together to coordinate and exchange information sometime also. I just was given a seat on the OGL ACTF and I've always got my ear to the ground. Anything to help the community and crucify the cheaters.

Thanks for the hot tip on no sv_pure on #1 cuz its AA--I was saying IF.

screw it, keep him.

lol

nm

1st of all, I am a scrub, so what i say don't mean shit.

That being said, I support the MOB clan, I play at the servers 1st. If they are full, or my ping is shit, then i look towards the lesser servers. The MOB guys work hard on keeping their servers cheater free. Anytime u ask em, they'll spec on a possible hacker. In my opinion, which is of devine origin, spec'n is the only good way to catch a cheater; givin' he is unaware of it. SS is only good for catching cheaters behind the 'curve', by that i mean the folks who run hacks, and don't know how to hide em when the door gets kicked in.

And for the record, I know the MOB guys run clean software, b/c I have bashed em all, some several times over. And if u can bash em, they ain't cheating. The textbook cheater to me, is the a$$hole that runs the chameleon hacks. Any hack that allows u to see all players on the map at all times, thats cheating. Crosshairs mods don't mean shit. Emsayn'? I mean if u can see me running across the map or tring to hide (camp'n),straightup and legit, blow my ass away, doesn't matter what crosshair u put on my sorry a$$.

In closing, I must say that in all the countless hours i've played on the MOB servers, I have never seen a MOB girl cheat. Those phuckas are jus good.
And in case yall forgot, MOB clan left the OLG over the cheating Bullshit, fed up with the crap. So know some history before u bus' up in here talkin shit !! Emsayn'?

I think you simply have restated all my posts coldbeer--

that ogl thing was bs w/ 7th

however, there are certain types of crosshairs we DO NOT allow, they go along w/ the trigger bots(aimbots). So, its not so much the custom crosshair we don't allow, its the ones we know go to trigger bots.

I totally agree. Anyone on our server that sends in screenshots typically isn't "cheating". CI is a joke, and thats the bottom line. We do screenshots of action, models, and a qconsole.log which shows which pk3s you exec'd. Those are okay, but the only ppl who send them are the ones that are clean. Some ppl slip up or forget what they have on. We still haven't gotten a guy using chameleons to send his in yet...lol. There isn't a single anticheat program out there w/o major flaws. The best way is to get someone w/ experience to spec. SCanning walls is what most of them do, along w/ shooting across a map through fog.
peace-

Glad to see Balla that we are on the same page!

Why even frikken play a game if you have to use a bot cause you SUCK? Doesn't that get boring?

I find it absolutely thrilling to stalk and hunt each MOB member and try to increase my skillsets in doing so.

The fun is knowing that my SKILLS are up to par as many of the players I look up to and respect.

On Server #2 that FK runs, PURE has made a huge dif in the level of competition cause you only get really skilled players now who are totally legit.

Would putting on a Chameleon Skin, turning on an aim bot, and bashing the heads of MOB's SMOKE, ZEILDOG, KINDBUD, ETC...be fun, SURE only for about a minute until I got bored from knowing that I had to cheat just be competative.

Its more fun to play legit and just get good!



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When I take SS I dont see any tga text in the middle..or any text. I tweaked the brightness so as to see past the shaded area.....I dont get text in any of my SS.

what is funny is I don't even have a crosshair mod or whatever I run a clean game which is the stock one. You must be talking about your balla and now you don't even recognize the real Crosshair one.

For the ss I just resent to wizz the fourth ones He have forced on me and they are the ones he forced on me. I have sended them to Wizz in time the first time and remember the time limit was 24 hours when he asked those. I have sended those like 30 minutes after they were forced I take the time to convert them. and how could I put that notepad on another map since I never saw that thing before. No im not an admin on mob server I don't even have the rcon Im just here to play and share good time with the guys.

As for the accusations of photoshop and reworking the screenies what about you did it to try to proove something on a total clean guy who just had pissed you to whoop you with MOB style for so many times. Maybe it was not you but i know some of your guys were pissed of me becuz it don't look good when a guy come in a server and own them so badly.

I have buy a computer to make music, listen music and play game I don't even know how to make a web page and use photoshop. My only skillz in computer are build a computer and its not so hard to do.

The only mistake I have done is add some random screenies that would be better in a case of investigation. So you are banning me for something I have done right. It's even more funny.
And also It was the first day you or second you were using that proggy so you can have make a mistake on me and the screenies were taken on the end of the map like 30 seconds before the end. Did you know that on the view you have on my screenie you cannot have a lot of clue of what game I am running. I also have asked Wizz to force screenies again on me and he refused WHY???

Also why Wizz sended me the servers configurations??? two zipped files. What would he want me to do with these???

I will say it again I don't cheat or don't use crosshair mod or whatever you can imagine or create.

One thing im sure I run a game 100% cleaner than yours balla or any {Bah} Member since I don't have any custom things in my main or any folders only the ones provided with the ea cd and the patchs from ea. You have just fell into your trap since you talked about yourself using those crosshair mod but im not one of these guys.

As I said before feels free to scan my computer if you want to see if I have something in my computer...

Like I said on your web site This is a total disrespect to me since I don't cheat and you are even comming in my yard to put other comments thats very low attitude you just show to me and the people here.

Thanks again for putting false accusations on me and making this public to make people all know that you are wrong.

Oh and I have just thinked of something what about a rematch against MOB VS BAH with the new
OGL rules??? A last match to say good bye since you have banned me of your server we can play it on server 1 or 3. Since you have posted this in our forum its not only an offence to me but to our entire clan.

Dio--we need to work on your past tense buddy..lmao j/k.

Listen foo--
I didn't get myself into any trap. Any decent admin knows exactly what can bypass what and how and what the symptoms of these attempts are and what the crosshair for a trigger bot would look like. Hell if MOB is talking about ACA in their server then I'm sure your admins do too. I'm straight up stock w/ the additional bahpad 4 , which i highly recommend for any heterosexual male over the age of 18.

Dio--look, wiz WAS head of BaH security and he forced the SS. Yea, you did not follow our policy on sending them in properly. Also, you're the ONLY member of your clan to come close to 100 kills on our server. The spawn killing you guys do is an absolute disgrace. It seems like you pride yourself on it Dio. I have specd a lot of cheaters in my day and I honestly do think you cheat. Do I have proof, no. Its that simple. You are probably the only person I've really gone out on a limb w/o proof in my accusation. A clean stock mohaa game is virtually impossible to go 120-12 on any map let alone every map.

Oh by the way, I was shown your SS in jpg form. We ask for the .tga files.

Dio look, I really don't give a shit. Not only are you spawn killing whore, your game ethics are just horrible. What kind of sport are you to just mow someone down right as they spawn. I don't care how stupid you are outside of the computer or even w/ webpages or pshop. You are cheating. None of your other clan members play like you do. I don't know what kind of scores you put up in front of them, but I'm sure if they saw the ones in forlorn they'd double check you too. And of course they'll say "yea mob owns duuude , you're just mad cuz you got owned tooo duuuuude". Seriously dio, I don't want you on my server because 1. i think you cheat, 2. I know you are a spawn killing whore, 3. you are an stg n00b to the core. Those 3 things are hated on my server. So just stick w/ your "equal"weapons mod and spawn killing brethren. And take a fuckin english class too while you're at it.

Although wiz is not in BaH anymore, he did inform me that you haven't sent in jackshit. Sorry thing is Dio--I was rooting for you to win this one. Tonight when i went in to apologize to any MOB in the server , you guys SS'd me and are trying to make a plea that because a piece of BaHpad covered up the crosshair on my SS that they can't accept the SS. BaHpad mods the opengl cfg to add the most beautiful women & bong water all over my screen. I play this game for fun....soldiers gotta have women every now and then. Anyway, bahpad apparently slowed down the screenshot process. So the portion of the models screenshot was in the middle of the action shot. You can still see everything else in teh screenshot, including a corpse in front of me w/ a stock skin, and I am wearing a stock skin. But whatever, i know MOB would LOVE to write this off as cheating. Whatever you guys want to do on your super rapid fire, spawn killing, n00b stg server is fine by me. I'll take on any MOB member 1 on 1, including Dio. You know I own your ass punk. Your n00b spawn kills don't amount to shit in my book, everytime I see you get a m1 to the melon.

And seriously, stop telling me you 'll SS yourself if I don't believe you. wtf good would that do. Here's what i want you to do, there is software that will video record your mohaa game. I want you to record yourself playing a map for 20 minutes and then I'll see the scores at the end.

Until then, you're guilty until proven innocent.

I know him innocent and why I would have to proove you that I am since you start to trash talking at me and calling me noob and saying stg is for the noobs. This is the weapon I have learn to play the best and I master. You know why I don't get scores like these in our server it's becuz it's the best here and against the best you don't score high. But in a server full of noob (I have taken your words) about 40 noobs It's so much easy to score that high. Im sure if I send the bigs guns on mob in your server with the same amount of people with a couples game they will had scores likes I had just the time to them to adjust their play.

Like I said earlier The only thing I did wrong was sending others randoms screenshots With the 4 forced (I have sending those in time yup thats true but since there was random SS + the forced one what is supposed to be other proofs of my innocence) your head is full of shit and you are lying saying those are not the real one or whatever you think recreate on photoshop whateveré

I don't have anything else to say to you as far as I can see you cannot believe that im that good without cheating. I have tried my best to explain my points but there is some misunderstoods I have resent the screenies to wizz the ones I have sent before... in time but the only thing you are trying to do is to drop me down to your level and it's bs in my eyes.

I had great time with you guys balla but since you showed me your real face I cannot believe I have wasted my time with people playing a double play and talking in my back... yup I have heard of this... half of bah bored to be owned BAH don't own MOB OWNS you should ask faster to change this in the web site. I don't know what you are trying to do but trying to find proof on someone who is don't even cheating or using some lame mod you told you were using...
This has gotten too far for me and since you wan't to disrespect me well I think I will play your game becuz I had nothing to proove to someone who is conviced of a false thing.

You also seems to be still ignoring me about the screenies sent in time maybe wizz have sent those later to you or whatever or don't have recieved them at the good address but this is sad cuz this is nonsense.

And since english is not my native language I can make errors with my past tense...
A good joke to all your sarcasm... Since I know you know that I don't cheat you are just doing this cuz you're guys were really pissed of me. TWO FACE . the reason you are doing the two play are all in your latest post with your offense the things you never had the gots to tell to me before maybe not you but other bah guys. this is sad but true.

im talking about the 3 points why to try to find a way to ban dio. lmao j/k.

Sad quote by balla...
Until then, you're guilty until proven innocent.

This is not the american law system It's sounds like irakian law system. They shoot you before you had the time to show your innocence and they seems to try to find weak points to shoot you even before. Anyway you seems to Ignores my points so why would I have to talk to you.
Can you also ask FASTER to delete me ASAP from yours forums It would be a nice move.

Oh and another thing now I just have understand...
I understand why you have deleted the thread on your forums. It's becuz you cannot accept the fact I am right and you wouldn't let know the people reading bah forums that you are banning people that are even not cheating just banning them cuz they play fair... very weak. You must have something to hide to the people to delete a thread 3 times. It's why this thread was moved here and maybe it's better like this becuz we have the freedom of speech. I have nothing to hide im just argumenting too proove you how low you can go...

Bah - step off.

You say yourself that you have no proof that Dio cheats.... it's just your opinion. That and $.50 will get you a ride on the horsie outside of your local supermarket.

Leave it at that. There is no proof either way. Why not let Dio back on your server and when he is on his way to another 100+ kills then screenshot him. I think it's only fair.

You speak of spawn killing whores... why? It is part of the game. If you don't like it, call EA and tell them about it, until then if I see 'em, I shoot 'em.. simple as that.

I have never been in your server before... would you please give me the ip so that I can go in and get 100+ and then you can call me a cheater too.

Real I don't want to go in theirs server anymore. He just showed me he's real face and it's trully what I never had expected.

I will only accept a match bah vs mob the third and final match so we will won the whole round.
Then I will be in peace. If they are too affraid we can use the OGL new cheat mod detections and even more. It will be the last and final time I will heard of em and it will be better like this.

If you decline I will understand. Why lost another match...

sheeesh,
dio are you even reading what I'm typing here????

Did you miss the whole 3 posts about DIO IS UNBANNED AND THE SS HE SENT DO NOT PROVE CHEATING OF ANY KIND. I really wish you heard me yesterday when I said all that. Dio--I've already said the security team was hasty and it has been dealt with. I screwed around with pshop after I posted here and noticed if you change any of the .tga's to jpegs ( i set it to 6 quality) I received the same dots around the crosshair. Well, mine weren't the same..in fact they were quite lighter and less noticeable. However, I did see the same characteristics in yours. Having seen this I have made an apology and am again. I'm not a crazy dictator running around like madman w/ my finger on the ban button, trust me. We've let dio rack up crazy scores for about a year now. Hell if he's clean , more power to him. If you notice , nobody on this forum brought up the quality lacking speciifically from .tga to .jpg....so nobody else apparently knew about the dots around the crosshair either. And personally I've never seen it before either. These are some of the minor things that I look for when viewing the SS. If I can trade 10 Dio's to get 1 n00b in the server, I would. N00bs pay the bills and they still play for fun. While I thoroughly enjoy Dio as competition, its no fun playing w/ a guy who wants to get 100 kills. I want a guy who wants to have a pistols only round or rifles only (sniper). I want someone to battle me in a stupid "hold the boiler room" at stali. Not just kill everyone and put up a stupid screenshot to brag. Thats now what our clan is about. As for "mastering" the stg....I'm not even going to reply to that one....lol.

Anyway, if you guys haven't noticed I threw a bucket of cold water on myself about 12 hours ago and have made it clear on here. I think you're still reading m y posts the wrong way.



I still have a problem w/ spawn killing. Call EA to change it? How about a little sportsmanship and ethics involved in something you do. Its a competitive event and if you're trying to prove that you are a skilled gamer, spawn killing doesn't prove anything at all...only that you are egotystical and obsessed w/ your score. Yes spawn killing does happen to everyone, but the chronic camp in front of the spawn site that some people do is disgusting. Things like spawn killing is just one of the things driving people out of the MOHAA community. Without the n00bs the game is nothing. Its just a couple clans.

BAH. Now, I'm not being disrepectful, but to say that 120-18 is impossible. It's called spawn killing. I've gottin' 32 - 1 in 4:35 mins. If you add and do the match, it's comes to about 147 - 5. That about what i wouldn't gotten if I was still lucky enough to hold that spawn spot. And i use "out-of-the-box". So I don't understand how you can call someone a cheater just becuase they get over 100 kills. And get use to spawn killing, cuase there's lots of clans that do it

Peace Dogg

QUOTE ({-BaH-} Fu BaH LLa @ Apr 28 2003, 11:33 AM)

sheeesh, dio are you even reading what I'm typing here???? Did you miss the whole 3 posts about DIO IS UNBANNED AND THE SS HE SENT DO NOT PROVE CHEATING OF ANY KIND. I really wish you heard me yesterday when I said all that. Dio--I've already said the security team was hasty and it has been dealt with. I screwed around with pshop after I posted here and noticed if you change any of the .tga's to jpegs ( i set it to 6 quality) I received the same dots around the crosshair. Well, mine weren't the same..in fact they were quite lighter and less noticeable. However, I did see the same characteristics in yours. Having seen this I have made an apology and am again. I'm not a crazy dictator running around like madman w/ my finger on the ban button, trust me. We've let dio rack up crazy scores for about a year now. Hell if he's clean , more power to him. If you notice , nobody on this forum brought up the quality lacking speciifically from .tga to .jpg....so nobody else apparently knew about the dots around the crosshair either. And personally I've never seen it before either. These are some of the minor things that I look for when viewing the SS. If I can trade 10 Dio's to get 1 n00b in the server, I would. N00bs pay the bills and they still play for fun. While I thoroughly enjoy Dio as competition, its no fun playing w/ a guy who wants to get 100 kills. I want a guy who wants to have a pistols only round or rifles only (sniper). I want someone to battle me in a stupid "hold the boiler room" at stali. Not just kill everyone and put up a stupid screenshot to brag. Thats now what our clan is about. As for "mastering" the stg....I'm not even going to reply to that one....lol. Anyway, if you guys haven't noticed I threw a bucket of cold water on myself about 12 hours ago and have made it clear on here. I think you're still reading m y posts the wrong way. I still have a problem w/ spawn killing. Call EA to change it? How about a little sportsmanship and ethics involved in something you do. Its a competitive event and if you're trying to prove that you are a skilled gamer, spawn killing doesn't prove anything at all...only that you are egotystical and obsessed w/ your score. Yes spawn killing does happen to everyone, but the chronic camp in front of the spawn site that some people do is disgusting. Things like spawn killing is just one of the things driving people out of the MOHAA community. Without the n00bs the game is nothing. Its just a couple clans.

You look like a Jack-Ass.

QUOTE ({-BaH-} Fu BaH LLa @ Apr 28 2003, 12:33 PM)

I still have a problem w/ spawn killing. Call EA to change it? How about a little sportsmanship and ethics involved in something you do. Its a competitive event and if you're trying to prove that you are a skilled gamer, spawn killing doesn't prove anything at all...only that you are egotystical and obsessed w/ your score. Yes spawn killing does happen to everyone, but the chronic camp in front of the spawn site that some people do is disgusting. Things like spawn killing is just one of the things driving people out of the MOHAA community. Without the n00bs the game is nothing. Its just a couple clans.

You sound jealous.

Spawn killing is unfortunately part of the game and in a large server like Forlorn Hope it only becomes more of a problem. The stock maps can only hold 16-20 people comfortably. When you double that number, spawn killing becomes even more an aspect of the game, even if you don't normally try and spawn kill.

wow, you guys just made my point even more resounding. Obviously you guys have had plenty of fingers pointed at you and are quite bitter. I'll leave you alone now. I guess some shitbags just play the game the way they want to play it, without a care in the world for the others involved.

Oh and vaselli, there is nothing skillfull about sniping into a spawn site. Its the most cowardly thing you could possibly do. At least Dio goes die hard into the zone w/ a machine gun. You sit back about 200 yds and camp. If i ever called you cheater I didn't mean it, I was probably looking more for the word coward.

If you don't want people to post on your board negative stuff, don't play on other servers and definately don't have that cocky overly insecure attitude you guys have. You guys reek of old news and corrupt files.

QUOTE ({-BaH-} Fu BaH LLa @ Apr 27 2003, 08:11 PM)

Nobody in MOB clan has been accused of cheating except for DiOnYsOs.  Not realdeal, not cobra, not anyone else.

Here is something else to prove my point that you look like a fool now. Why would you say that noone else has been accused of cheating then you go and say something like this? You are looking real bad right now.

QUOTE ({-BaH-} Fu BaH LLa @ Apr 28 2003, 02:33 PM)

wow, you guys just made my point even more resounding. Obviously you guys have had plenty of fingers pointed at you and are quite bitter. I'll leave you alone now. I guess some shitbags just play the game the way they want to play it, without a care in the world for the others involved. Oh and vaselli, there is nothing skillfull about sniping into a spawn site. Its the most cowardly thing you could possibly do. At least Dio goes die hard into the zone w/ a machine gun. You sit back about 200 yds and camp. If i ever called you cheater I didn't mean it, I was probably looking more for the word coward. If you don't want people to post on your board negative stuff, don't play on other servers and definately don't have that cocky overly insecure attitude you guys have. You guys reek of old news and corrupt files.

OUCH! Sounds like the jealousy comment really struck a nerve huh?


And as far as posting negative comments - you'll notice that none of your negative comments were deleted from this thread... unlike Dio's posts on your forum.

We have nothing to hide. Our gameplay stands on its own. No words are needed and negative comments from clans like yours "reek" of jealousy. Nothing more.

As far as us being cocky.... our gameplay backs it up.

And you have made many negative comments in this thread. Calling people cheaters, then taking it back, and calling people names.
You spoke that we have no maturity. Read the posts in this thread and then think again. It is clear you have acted outrageously childish during your stay here. You have brought forth your own bad image.

My ratio stands the same as both of yours, none of your members can pull a better ratio. Dio is the only one that kills at a pace higher than all of ours. You guys had exactly the same score as C20 did, then on Remagen we fared better. Its quite simple to see there is no jealousy. You guys pulled the childish stunt on your server when we showed up there. Frankly, there are enough people out there that feel the same way I do about him... and that speaks for itself. Lol jealous..heh...i've played 6 times on your server and already I'm in the stats

We don't remove negativity, only a desperate idiot like Dio who can't send in screenshots after specific instructions were emailed to him, not to mention the very specific post in our forum. Dio's threads were simply a waste of good space on the forum. Might want to get your statistics straight before you call another clan jealous. You guys don't exactly own anymore...but best of luck to you.

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I guess some shitbags just play the game the way they want to play it, without a care in the world for the others involved.

I'm really hurt. I got one of your guys calling me on a weekly basis telling me about the newest cheats and how they can get past pure. Whats up with that?

Man, if only this guy put as much effort into his killing as he does his trash talking......

QUOTE ({-BaH-} Fu BaH LLa @ Apr 28 2003, 06:01 PM)

My ratio stands the same as both of yours, none of your members can pull a better ratio. Dio is the only one that kills at a pace higher than all of ours. You guys had exactly the same score as C20 did, then on Remagen we fared better. Its quite simple to see there is no jealousy. You guys pulled the childish stunt on your server when we showed up there. Frankly, there are enough people out there that feel the same way I do about him... and that speaks for itself. Lol jealous..heh...i've played 6 times on your server and already I'm in the stats We don't remove negativity, only a desperate idiot like Dio who can't send in screenshots after specific instructions were emailed to him, not to mention the very specific post in our forum. Dio's threads were simply a waste of good space on the forum. Might want to get your statistics straight before you call another clan jealous. You guys don't exactly own anymore...but best of luck to you.

How did we start talking about ratios? You completely ignore the topic at hand and go on being a little girl. You continue to call Dio names and make outlandish claims like you own MOB and that you a fair person. Everytime you post you make yourself look worse. I was going to ask you to stop but not now. You continue to show that you weren't raised right and you make a ton of bad decisions. I can't understand how your mother loves you. I am laughing at how absurd your posts have gotten. You didn't even have the highest score out of your own clan. Some other BaH guy had a higher score than you and you were below Cobra and I. So continue to lie and contradict yourself, like you did about calling us cheaters <see above SS>, and I and the rest who read this forum will watch you plummet.

QUOTE ({MOB}Sgt.Zieldog @ Apr 28 2003, 06:05 PM)

I'm really hurt. I got one of your guys calling me on a weekly basis telling me about the newest cheats and how they can get past pure. Whats up with that?

Why dont' u tell the whole thing u pussy. But hey just like 2pac said ,"FUCK M.O.B."

QUOTE ({-BaH-} Fu BaH LLa @ Apr 28 2003, 07:01 PM)

jealous..heh...i've played 6 times on your server and already I'm in the stats

Well, you've played many more than 6 times... please do not make me go pull the server log. Oh BTW... where did you get yout stats from exactly? Have you seen the date of the last update? You are a fool.

QUOTE ({-BaH-} BluRavr @ Apr 28 2003, 08:21 PM)

QUOTE ({MOB}Sgt.Zieldog @ Apr 28 2003, 06:05 PM) I'm really hurt. I got one of your guys calling me on a weekly basis telling me about the newest cheats and how they can get past pure. Whats up with that? Why dont' u tell the whole thing u pussy. But hey just like 2pac said ,"FUCK M.O.B."

Your age shines through again.

What a nice guy...

Zillah

OGL is lucky to have such a quality person like yourself. If only they had read this thread before they accepted you.

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Why dont' u tell the whole thing u pussy. But hey just like 2pac said ,"FUCK M.O.B."

Just proving a point.