Just wanted to say that I wish Mobclan the best of luck tonight with =COM= on your path to be OGL Champions. I have no doubt that you will succeed tonight. =COM= seems to be some pretty stiff competition, but I know the best when I see them. Mobclan is that clan. They proved it before and the ladder from was taken from them like a theif in the night. Good luck guys. Like Epacy said before time was the only obstacle. It’s now that time.



Good Luck!

Zillah

Heh nice pic zilla, and good luck tonight guys

no need to wish these guys luck. we already know they are going to stomp ass tonight. the other team needs luck.


KICK SOME ASS MOB.

Well I'll be damned, you sorry fuckers lost.

Ping killed you boys. Their home server pings were all below 50.
Y'all's home server pings were still not that great, only two of you
were below 50.

Ping cost you fellas the match. They barely beat y'all, If the
pings were a bit more even the win woulda been MOB's.
But I guess thats how it goes.

Where do you go from here? Do you retain the #2 spot?
How much time before a rematch?

we lost but we will be stronger next time. Anyway i was not there. It still was a close game only by 20. Ping is not a reason... well just if you run around 150...

mob=

and...

The first pic was better.

Kipp....did your mother drink allot of paint thinner when she was pregnant with you?

Kipp, your a funny guy. You live just to get on MOB forums and talk shit. WOW, your life has to be very meaningful. Look we realize your from another clans ass that we kicked, and we are sorry for probably doubling up your scores. At least it's still nice to see NO TALENT ASS CLOWNS visit our forums and show how worthless to the world they really are.

Clan

kipp, thats looks like some shit I would post.

Jesus its funny. Sorry MOB, but give that nigga his props.

Talk about rubbin salt in the wound.

MOB will get back right and overcome this deal with COM.

nixon and clan killa...

Kipp Da Pimp

Kipp I found someone your age to give you a message

QUOTE (Kipp Da Pimp @ Aug 14 2003, 07:33 PM)

nixon and clan killa...

hahahahahahahhahahha you fuckhead im crying here.

Zillah

p.s kipp why not come on our servers(when we are on and under your name ) and show us your talents.

QUOTE (little old man @ Aug 14 2003, 09:27 PM)

p.s kipp why not come on our servers(when we are on and under your name ) and show us your talents.

Excellent point Old Man.
Ditto from me.

Man you boys are breaking out the railroad cannons now, lol.

Hey Kipp Da Pimp. I see by your picture you get your looks and personality from your pappy, that I just happen to have a picture of below..



Kirby

haha, that shirt rules

QUOTE (Kirby @ Aug 15 2003, 12:47 PM)

Hey Kipp Da Pimp. I see by your picture you get your looks and personality from your pappy, that I just happen to have a picture of below.. Kirby

Kirby, you and the Old Man have the best photos.

C'mon guys slow down the kipp bashing, you have to give him a couple of days or weeks to find something original to fire back with. I mean it's not his fault he has nothing to do except post stupid shit on this forum that no one really gives a damn about. Actually, it is...get a life kipp. GO back to playing Magic the gathering with all of your circle jerk, but poking friends.

....

More importantly, COM cheated. They use 2 NIC cards and create a QOS on the one the opposing teams uses, thereby giving their own full bandwidth while limiting bandwidth packets on the opposing team. OGL knows they do it, but cannot address it since it's very hard to prove.

Whatever

Well identify yourself and let us know how you know this. That would give more validity to your claim. We will listen.

Very interesting, I would like to hear Bouncers reply to this. Or is it one of those grassy knole conspiracy theories?

Well it can be done none the less so it could be true

I know it can be done, saw bouncer in here viewing the forums earlier, but he didn't post anything.

QUOTE (Whatever @ Aug 19 2003, 11:34 AM)

More importantly, COM cheated. They use 2 NIC cards and create a QOS on the one the opposing teams uses, thereby giving their own full bandwidth while limiting bandwidth packets on the opposing team. OGL knows they do it, but cannot address it since it's very hard to prove. Whatever

Post your proof or email it to any MOB member, otherwise you are trooling & trying to stur up trouble.


Panzer...I wouldnt hold my breath waiting for someone to confess they cheated, to admit it here.

Answer: Click Here

QUOTE (Whatever @ Aug 19 2003, 12:34 PM)

More importantly, COM cheated.  They use 2 NIC cards and create a QOS on the one the opposing teams uses, thereby giving their own full bandwidth while limiting bandwidth packets on the opposing team.  OGL knows they do it, but cannot address it since it's very hard to prove. Whatever

As I'm sitting here reading your post, I'm trying to decide which is worse.
Having to put up with cheaters or having to put up with people crying about cheating.
I'm not talking about the noobs who just cry cheat, but dumbasses like you who feel the need to make up these stupid stories to try and justify themselves when they cry cheat.

I'm going to take a wild guess here and assume your a member of the 7th Rangers. I assume that's a safe bet since the only other topic you've posted in is the one about us leaving OGL after our match with the 7th Rangers.
If anyone wants to look at your past drivel on our forum here you go.
Your bogus claim about MOB being listed on the cheatpolice site
Claiming an MOB player was trying to steal your rcon password
More of your pathetic drivel

The simple response would be, to point out how how funny it is your team was able to take the top rung on OGL, but lost it when the anti-cheat measures were put into place. You guys went from an almost straight win record to a striaght loss record. Gee, I wonder why???
And you have the nerve to cry cheat about someone else??
Give me a f_cking break.

There was an interesting topic on the /.BAD/ forum a while back. I wish I would of saved it but here is a copy of a quick summary I posted in our private forum.
From a /BAD/ Heavy D
He's referencing the fact that up to a point there were a few members of Halo who were widely known as hacks (Silver, chefslax, plus?). The OGL win for first place included members hacking and there was a big to do when the 7th got caught by an OGL admin during the match with MOB. MOB left OGL because of the 7th Rangers. Shortly after the MOB match, Dirty Harry tendered his resignation citing 'rampant cheating among the ranks' that he had failed to act on. Many members happened to read the post but either 6 or DH deleted it shortly afterward.

There in is the irony; that 6 is currently the 'soup nazi' rule wise when the highest ladder successes of the 7th were the result of hacking. There is not a veteran member of the 7th who didn't know Silver and Chef were hacks yet the stock response was "when we found out, we banned them" or in other words when we got caught we banned them.


The Reply from 7thRangers Deluzion
i have been in 7th for a very long time Heavy, i remember what happened when the MOB thing went down, when i played with Silver i thought he was hacking also but that is besides the point, Silver was let go of the clan and chef left or was kicked im not sure which it was but they are both no longer with us as you know
We do not cheat. We run forced screen shots on all our members.

From /BAD/ HeavyD
After the MOB moment or 'the shift' if you had been there a while you would have quickly noticed that several Halo member's ratios dropped dramatically and permanently (where were the 5-1 gods?).

Regardless, I know when you got in, I was there once and naive as well. I joined 7th (despite Harry's protest) after getting the game for a week or two. I championed their arguments during the hack debate only to look back and feel dirty and dumb.

The vast majority of the current squad have never hacked (note most now are not original Halo). What the 7th will never escape is that the their time at the top was dirty (harry) and their attempts there-after would make an injury lawyer proud. This is a history you must shoulder and to that end I invite you to look at just a few things;

-Do the comments from Dirty Harry about myself, KOD, Moldmaker, and our clan overall make you proud?
-Do the actions and behavior of 6e make you wonder?
-Do you realize that most people get paid to endure the crap 6 and Harry give out.
-Do you agree with what the 7th did the other night in those 2 minutes?; we all know that 6 give you no choice, we all no that you don't know what it's like to have a choice/say in a clan.
-Are you certain of the heritage you defend?

I'll end with one challenge.

Ask any veteran ranger to post here who was there and knew silver and chef; Shooter would be the dividing line for time. Ask them in the 7th's defense to post here that; "I was absolutely clueless that Silver or Chef were hacks until well after the MOB match".

The Reply from 7thRangers Deluzion
I relized then and i relize now that he/they probaly hacked and they are no longer with us, so nothing we can really do about this now but then to look back at it so there is no REAL reason to go back to this. Some of /Bad./ knows that we all went down this road after the MOB match.

From /BAD/ HeavyD
The leadership of 6e and Harry wholeheartedly endorsed hacking by keeping and playing these members in critical matches. Again the rise to number one for 7th was using hacks by some if not all (Thor contends that all of Halo were hacks 'without exception'). No one is really arguing that 7th Halo didn't hack up until getting caught in the MOB match (no 7th responses yet but we'll leave that one open). The leadership remains... and like a convicted child molester, once caught, you always have to keep your eye on them.

One of the current members of the 7th told me that Harry left because his specific order not to hack in the MOB match with the admins watching went ignored. He however tries to imply that it was me? that motivated him and that my leaving pushed him to return ????

Now I realize people may think I just made all of that up. If you have any questions about this being accurate. Please feel free to ask /BAD/ HeavyD
about it.

If that wasn't enough, here is an email we received.
The email started as a question from a {GDEC} player to 7thRangers Thor asking what happened in our match ( MOB vs 7thRanders ). Thor replied claiming {MOB} cheated by changing the CKR mod in the match making the weapons stronger for us and weaker for them. Not only is this stupid but impossible, the server would have to be restarted just as another GDEC person pointed out. The Funny thing is, that's not the 1st time a clan has claimed we changed the mod.
These are from or 1st OGL match.
MOB has better grenades
MOB has better guns
It was stupid than and it's just as stupid now almost a year later.
Here is the email where THOR claimed we had switched the CKR mod in the match, he also makes his stupid claim about =COM= and how they cheat by making people ping bad on their server.
http://mobclan.com/thor.eml
( The email link doesn't work for some people, if it doesn't work, right click and choose save as )
Luckily for us, one of the GDEC members set the record straight and explained why the accusation made by 7thRangers Thor was ludicrous.

Now I'll set the record straight about this and =COM=
1) They didn't cheat against us, and they sure as hell didn't cheat against you.
2) =COM= Bouncer and I were talking about the wild cheat accusations against MOB and COM a few days before our match. Bouncer offered to let me remotely login to his server to see how it was setup just prior to the match if I had any concerns . I'm not talking about rcon into his MOHAA server, but actually access his machine. To me this just shows what a stand-up guy he is and how he didn't have anything to hide.
All either of us wanted was a clean match, were no one from either team left with any worries about someone cheating.

Now let me set the record straight once and for all.

QUOTE (Whatever @ Aug 19 2003, 12:34 PM)

More importantly, COM cheated.  They use 2 NIC cards and create a QOS on the one the opposing teams uses, thereby giving their own full bandwidth while limiting bandwidth packets on the opposing team.  Whatever

Just like you said, it would take 2 network cards.
Here is the specs on their server
http://servepath.com/servers/advancedpath/index.htm#2
scroll down ad click on the link that says "Specification and Photo".
Guess what? only 1 network card, not 2.

I'm done, you can now go set your whiny little ass in the chair facing the corner.
When you learn how not to act like a total idiot , I'll let you out of timeout.
I swear, kids these days.

Well, there you have it...grassy knole conspiracy theory.

QUOTE (Panzer @ Aug 20 2003, 09:38 AM)

Well, there you have it...grassy knole conspiracy theory.

Even better than that. I did a little research and guess who started this little urban legend about =COM= using two networks cards and QOS to control the pings of the other team.
Guess who.
Come on take a wild guess.

What no guesses?

Here is a little hint.

7

What that didn't give it away?










Okay, here is another hint
We'll play a game like wheel of fortune

7_ _ R _ n g_ _ s

Okay, anyone ready to solve the puzzle?

No?

Okay, here is the final hint












7th R _ n g_ r s

Who wants to buy a vowel?


Yep, thats right.
The clan who started this silly little rumor is non-other than the 7thRangers.
This was the excuse they used after losing a match to =COM= on the OGL ladder.
When you find out the source of this stupid little rumor, it's becomes very easy to dismiss it without giving it a second thought.

I hope this clears up any questions or concerns anyone had.
BTW if any 7thRangers happen to read this.
The client side anti-cheat program "Reverend" will soon be released.
If you have any questions on who the better team is, MOB would be more than happy to play you on YOUR server with everyone using "Reverend".
I would assume =COM= would be just as happy to do the same.
That is unless of course, you are now going to claim they have the omnipotent ability to control everyones pings on YOUR server too.

This is the dumbest shit I have heard it is quit obvious these guys know shit about running the server and editing the game/mods I have gotten pretty good and modding the game and maps and I can tell ya for sure that what they are accusing MOB and COM of is not posible gravity effecting one team cant be done it always efects all ppl and objects and run speed can be changed in the game through Rcon but it effects both teams equaly and the only way to make it effect one team would be to edit the weapons mod but you cant edit PK3 files once the mohaa console has been started so the sever would have to be shut down and restarted in order to make the changes

Very nice Druid! Just when the =7= tried to start some shit, druids there to bitch smack them down.

Druid,
I know we've kept this between us for so long, but after that I feel I must share it with everyone and let the world know how I feel about you.

I LOVE YOU!!!!!

Nicely done Druid!

Druid,

That was a great post. It looks like you really did some homework on it, as well as alot of time and energy. We at =C O M= would like to thank you for defending us against these idiots. Not only did you defend us but you did so in a very logical and truthful manner. Both of our clans are often attacked with slander because we are very dedicated and very skilled. People like the 7th rangers who think that they are unbeatable are often suprised what a team of highly dedicated, motivated, and co-ordinated players can do in a match. The only thing that they can do when beaten is to complain or make up stories. This is exactly how this whole thing got started. I am sure that both of our clans have experienced this, when we beat a team that they come back with accusations and lies. The 7th rangers were the ultimate at this, they came up witht the most outrageous stories as to why they got beat, and never was the story that the other team was better during the match. Let it be known that during our recent match with the {MOB} we never felt that the bullet damages were altered or changed. As a standard opperating procedure we always check the weapons when we enter an oponents server, we found the bullet damage and spread to be correct. So that whole theory of {MOB} altering the realism is out the window. Also, recently =C O M= played a match and thought they had achieved the ultimate victory. Not only did we cause them to quit respawning, but caused them to leave thier OWN server during a match. Yet, I am reading that you guys beat a team and drove them off the f***ing ladder. WOW, thats definitely the ultimate victory. Hats off on that one MOB! Well we would just like to thank you Druid for putting it all in perspective in an easy post for people to read, and look forward to our next match, the last one was one hella battle.

Thanks again,
=C O M= Bouncer

Druid nothing agiainst any of the teams, and im not accusing anyone of cheating, but just because the specs on that server say 1 nic, doesnt mean another could have been added.

Once again im only staing a point, not calling anyone a cheater or anything

QUOTE (<_-JP-_> @ Aug 22 2003, 03:02 PM)

Druid nothing agiainst any of the teams, and im not accusing anyone of cheating, but just because the specs on that server say 1 nic, doesnt mean another could have been added. Once again im only staing a point, not calling anyone a cheater or anything

Your right, but the the page says only one nic and he said only one nic, plus he offered to allow me to remotely view his sever setup.
To me thats more than enough.

The sad fact is, anyone who is dumb enough to believe such stupid rumors, still wouldn't believe the truth if you smacked them in the head with it.

This will put an end to that thought.

Please notice the following in the jpeg provided:

• The name of the server is ADV-SERVER
  
• Under computer is MPS Multiprocessor PC
  
• Finally and most important. As listed in the specs (1) Intel based network card. Now look under Network Adapters.....you see one (1) Intel based network card......NOT TWO
  

Also if I might add, there are rules in OGL under Fair Ping that protect teams from playing on servers that have too high of ping. Anyone can view them under the link "Rules for this ladder" on the Medal of Honor TDM Realism page. I doubt anyone is going to agree to play on a server where there ping is unfair. Also we are a west coast team and the same pings and east coast team gets on our server, we get on thiers. This is called split servers.

QUOTE (=C O M= Bouncer @ Aug 22 2003, 06:05 PM)

This will put an end to that thought. Please notice the following in the jpeg provided: The name of the server is ADV-SERVER Under computer is MPS Multiprocessor PC Finally and most important. As listed in the specs (1) Intel based network card. Now look under Network Adapters.....you see one (1) Intel based network card......NOT TWO Also if I might add, there are rules in OGL under Fair Ping that protect teams from playing on servers that have too high of ping. Anyone can view them under the link "Rules for this ladder" on the Medal of Honor TDM Realism page. I doubt anyone is going to agree to play on a server where there ping is unfair. Also we are a west coast team and the same pings and east coast team gets on our server, we get on thiers. This is called split servers.

I think this is just true sportsmanship between both teams. Mob clan doesn’t get beat much and neither does =COM=. This was just COM's night and that just it in a nutshell. I think both teams have the talent. We so called regulars see the MOB guys almost as invincible. Mob is not invincible. The clan has just recently got back into OGL play cause of a new program called honesty config, which prevents cheaters from entering game play. Reverend which is in beta testing right now will almost fully guarantee a cheat free match. Mob went 9-0 until =COM= defeated them. This was truly amazing because the clan shot up the ladder so fast in so little time. This clan was kind of unorganized when it took this challenge and got into match play so fast. A lot of the guys quit playing after the =7= cheated them out of the top rung. After the honesty config came into the picture you saw a lot of MOB faces that had not been on the server in months get back into action. Me as a regular could see that they had not been playing because it showed when they played in the scores and rung match play screen shots. Give Mob a little time and they will be on top as before. They truly know how to work a map. The chemistry is there. Practice and teamwork will make it happen. Good luck to both clans. I know that you all will see each other soon in an OGL World Title match soon.

Zillah

Let MOB's regulars take on COM in the rubber match.
Double or nothing. Jus' a thought. No OGL implications.