1. Challenging clan name.
*MoG* Men of God

2. email address.
MoG_BiblePreacher@hotmail.com

3. Your Time zone.
Personal: Eastern
MoG: Crete to Hawaii

4. # of players. Ex. 4 vs. 4
We have over 70 members, so it would be up to you to name the numbers

5. Requested match date.
Must discuss. Best for your clan.

6. Requested match time.
Again, must discuss. Best for your clan.

7. Your server address.
MoG "East" Server: 208.254.40.105
MoG "West" Server: 64.125.131.248:12203
Practice Server West: 64.125.131.248:12204 Password required

8. Any comments.
We can work on a date and time best for you.
Visit us at www.menofgod.us

I don't like his over-use of religion. No need to push it on people. However, his post is very neat, formal, and coherent.

I tried to email you guys but got a error. So here is what I said....



We use a modified Crow King Realism to make guns equal and we can do a best of 5. Or we can do 3 maps our server and 3 maps yours. Let us know


{MOB}Clan Killa

I got your e-mail. I am passing on the info and the accepted match to the Colonel in charge of the War Department. He will probably contact you by e-mail. Should he use the e-mail address that you sent the message from?

The Plan of Salvation.
Christians, click here every day to donate a Bible to those in persecuted lands.
Join the King James Bible Believers team.

Propagating on our site. Who are these in "persecuted lands"?
Why do you try to promote your quest on all in come in contact with you?
You have no vision.

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The Plan of Salvation. ...Propagating on our site... Why do you try to promote your quest on all in come in contact with you?

This is for the benifit of your soul, not the annoyance of your mind. Please understand this and do not condemn Christians for this. Even if you don't agree with the message, the method is perfectly fine. I put it there so you CAN click on it, not so you have to. There is no cramming or preaching even involved in place a link there to ALLOW you to choose to click on it. You do believe you have a choice, right?

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Christians, click here every day to donate a Bible to those in persecuted lands. ... Who are these in "persecuted lands"?

If you had clicked that link you would know. The site is very self explanitory.

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Join the King James Bible Believers team.

This link, had you clicked on it, would have led you to a non-christian site that is using idle cpu cycles to find the cure, an inhibitor, for late stage cancer. I just happen to be the head of a "team" of computers called the King James Bible Believers. The phrase "Join the King James Bible Believers team" is a play on words to invite you to elieve on the Bible, but also to help fight cancer.

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The Plan of Salvation. ... Why do you try to promote your quest on all in come in contact with you?

Who else in this world is trying their hardest to help you? I do my hardest to see that no one I come in contact with stands before the white throne of judgment and gets cast into the lake of fire. It is not for me that I do this. It is for you and for the Lord who would not like to see any perish, but that all may come to repentance.

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You have no vision.

I don't exactly know what you meant by this comment, but I know it just out of resentment to what and Who I stand for and not a personal attack. If it is a personal attack, please explain it, so I can have a chance for defence.

Please check things out before you condemn people for assumed motives and/or methods. Click the links or don't comment on them. They are all there for you to choose to click them or ignore them. You ignore links all the time on the internet. There is nothing on this site put here by me that would directly "propagate" myself or my beliefs. All things that I put here must be clicked on first and then believed on by the individual doing the clicking. No one is being forced or cohersed into anything they don't want to do. BTW, I AM a messenger, not the originator of the message. If you have issues with God, you don't have to take it out on Christians.

Well Ep....I think that about answers all your questions....LOL





Big

Well I don't see anything wrong with the MOG Website I think its
refreshing a bunch of great Individuals whom seem to have a vision.
And that vision is simply to help people who are astray and have
lost Jesus Christ or have not yet know Our Lord. I also think its great
that they would do something to help fight cancer. My Grandmother
died two years ago of leukemia which is a blood type cancer, and anything
that helps that cause is a step closer to fighting this cancer.Well as I see
they really are not pushing you to into christianity but merely giving
you an option and it is your choice to click the link.So if you dont like it just dont
click the link or even visit the site simple as that...

Personally I dont' think they are forcing their religion on anyone. I like the concept of your clan....but when it comes to a match all that will be put aside.



Clan

Greetings MOB, glad to meet you all.

I'm Colonel Zaccheus of MoG. I see you've met Captain BiblePreacher. He's a good man. As the War Department commander, it is one of my responsibilities to set up matches. I think it would be great to play against your squad. We can play on your server or ours, does not matter. Though not all of our Division likes realism, I have plenty of men and women that do. So what do you say? You up for a match against a bunch of Bible thumpers?

You call it, we'll be there. Please send the details to the War Department and we'll go from there. wardepartment@menofgod.us

I look forward to meeting you all on the battlefield.

Hehe... Look on the bright side.
Unlike most of the clans who we have tried to setup a match with and then no one shows to play.
These guys will actually show up. Otherwise it would be a lie, and thats a major no-no.

their web site looks as a sect web site and personnaly i dont trust jesus becuz afet 15 century the religion became something more like business
but if you re good players and you want a game lets do it !!!

I see what you mean. Many churches are "only in it for the money". But what does religion have to do with Jesus? And furthermore, why would the state of the modern church turn you away from trusting Jesus? Many groups have started religions after the name of Jesus, but that does not mean that they represent him in any way. Jesus is alive and ever lives to make intercession for God's children. He wants to see all men and women in Heaven with Him for eternity. Trusting in Him is the only way to do that, whether you are in a "religion" or not. I personally don't consider myself in a religion at all. I am in a personal relationship with the Lord and trust His finished work on the cross through the shedding of His blood to save me from Hell. Religion is man trying to get to Heaven on their own merit to get God's favor. True Christianity is trusting the work God has done, realizing that no good works done by us can appease God. I believe there is a major difference between Christianity and religion. If you want to call Christianity a religion, fine, that is your belief, but remember the difference. One is a relationship with the trusted Lord and the other is a quest to find or keep God's grace by personal merit. One is knowing and loving Jesus and the other is vain works without hope.

Nothing on this Earth is worth dying and going to Hell for. Nothing. Not even religion.

did u guys get my email ?



Clan

Yes sir, I received your email and I sent out a reply. I just viewed your message about an hour ago. So now I'm waiting for your reply. When I have your reply and see that it will work, then I'll d/l your map pack and get my people to d/l it also. Should be great fun.

I will say one thing...you guys are probly the only other clan besides MOB, of course, that seems to have your act together. You've been both freindly and prompt in all of your replys....hope to see you on the battlefield soon.

I was going to leave this wretched issue alone. However, after your ridiculous statements(Bible Preacher), I feel that I must let you guys know what is right.

"This is for the benifit of your soul, not the annoyance of your mind"
Bible Preacher
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This statement is pure trash. How do you know that believing in God is for the benefit of my soul? There is no possible way you can know either way. Therefore, claiming that you do makes you a fool. You obviously aren't as righteous as you think you are.
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Who else in this world is trying their hardest to help you? I do my hardest to see that no one I come in contact with stands before the white throne of judgment and gets cast into the lake of fire.
Bible Preacher
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Worthless. You have no idea whether the work you do is any good. "You have no duty to help others". Your work doesn't matter at all when the final judgement is passed down, if that actually even happens. Your mind isn't open. You have tunnel vision and it is carrying you in one detremental path.
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It is for you and for the Lord who would not like to see any perish, but that all may come to repentance.
Bible Preacher
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Another statement I am amazed that you believe. You know what God wants!? That is simply ridiculous. Once again you claim to know when in the end you just look foolish. I don't understand how you can put such a statement together. The brain process you went through to fabricate this sentence is sad. I am embarrased for you.
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Please check things out before you condemn people for assumed motives and/or methods.
Bible Preacher
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I condem you because you have no idea what you're doing. I don't need to read-up on your links to know that what you believe is wrong and the methods you take to get there are seriously faulted. You have been overcome with illogical reasoning.
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BTW, I AM a messenger, not the originator of the message. If you have issues with God, you don't have to take it out on Christians.
Bible Preacher
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I don't have issues with God or his equivalent. I have serious issues with people like you. You believe you are so clean and righteous, and that this "self-image" must be impressed upon others. The beauty is that your kind are the ones who make this world unbearable. I have an idea about life, a vision of how I want to live but I don't got out into the world and try to make other people live or believe like me. It isn't sound.
You are the people who are misguided.
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lol


ryan

Map pack?

Well stated Epacy!!!



Big

I Just had to respond to this.
And just so there will be no missunderstandings. I consider myself to be agnostic...

"This is for the benifit of your soul, not the annoyance of your mind"
Bible Preacher
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"This statement is pure trash. How do you know that believing in God is for the benefit of my soul? "
Epacy
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That's why its called faith.

Who else in this world is trying their hardest to help you? I do my hardest to see that no one I come in contact with stands before the white throne of judgment and gets cast into the lake of fire.
Bible Preacher
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Worthless. You have no idea whether the work you do is any good. "You have no duty to help others" . Your work doesn't matter at all when the final judgement is passed down, if that actually even happens. Your mind isn't open. You have tunnel vision and it is carrying you in one detremental path.
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I would rather have someone trying to be helpful than not. Regardless of the reasons. Every one should try to help others, if for no other reason but to improve the human condition. Someone FORCING there idea of help on someone is a different matter.


BTW, I AM a messenger, not the originator of the message. If you have issues with God, you don't have to take it out on Christians.
Bible Preacher
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I don't have issues with God or his equivalent. I have serious issues with people like you. You believe you are so clean and righteous, and that this "self-image" must be impressed upon others. The beauty is that your kind are the ones who make this world unbearable. I have an idea about life, a vision of how I want to live but I don't got out into the world and try to make other people live or believe like me. It isn't sound.
You are the people who are misguided.
Epacy
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I'm sorry but I must of missed his post where he said anything about being clean and righteous. In fact most Christians are under the misguided idea, that everyone is a sinner. Which by the way includes themselves.

I fail to see anything they should have to defend themselves for.
It all comes down to a matter of faith or a matter of opinion.

and what about a MATCH... friday???

I talked to god once ........... No wait that was the time i had the bad acid.


Sorry

Carry on


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MaX

Druid, you dare to challenge me!
Don't tell me you have the same views. I cry.

Epacy you went overboard on this subject. You read way to much into what they believe, and I agree with what druid said.



Clan

Clan when I want your opinon I'll come over and dump on your car. Overboard? How do you determine overboard?

Sorry guys.... i'm staying out of this one.

I would have believed that until you decided to add a reply.

Because once we kill them and win Friday night it won't matter what they say. All you have to say is we WON.


Clan

Clan, I can never be mad at you!

Hey guys, good match. You spanked us well, but we had fun and that is what is most important. We would like to set up another match in maybe two or three weeks with you. This time, we'll play on our server. I hope we'll give you more of a challenge.


MoG MOB
166 473
204 478
160 359

Until we meet again and feel free to come visit our servers to say hi.

East: 208.254.40.105
West: 64.125.131.248

And of course, remember that Jesus loves YOU!

www.menofgod.us

Will do. Thanks! You guys are a real class act. BUT - don't preach to us.

Epacy. I will not respond to your comments unless you force the issue, because I know that all of that is hatred towards something that I am not. IE: People who pose to be something they are not, People who preach and force their oppinions down the throats of those who don't care to hear, Religion and religiously pious poeple, etc.

I will however defend my own self by admitting to you that the "trash" you claim I have posted is not trash at all, but my beliefs. Plus, that statement you really got on me about was out of the Bible, not my words. Which only goes to show me that it is God you have a problem with. In all honesty, your logic is flawed worse than mine can possibly be. In a world where people only look out for themselves with no care for who they step on, there can only come chaos. You may like chaos personally, and that is your preference, but not many people in this world like to be "dumped on" by everyone they meet. If you tried to help me out but it annoyed me, I would not publickly condemn you for it, I would simply state that I did not want/need your help.

I am not perfect. As a matter of fact, I am one of the worst people I know (because I know my intentions and not just my words and actions,) but I don't put on a show either. I try and if that is rejected, I try somewhere else. That simple. If you don't want to know, then it is on you after I tell you. If you want to know and I don't tell you, then it is on me. I don't want that on me.

Since you don't want to know, then I will drop this. If you reply, then this will go on and I will be convinced that you want to hear more.

Thank you all for putting up with this and be warned that Epacy might have some burning desire to hear the truth and be preached to.

NO NO NO NO NO....
DON'T REPLY.....
NO ONE HERE WANTS TO BE PREACHED TO THANK YOU.

Lol. I really have no desire to continue this here. If Epacy wants more, he can contact me in person. I was just joking about preaching here. Edging him on a bit. He does seem a bit perturbed at my very presence. And I am really not taking that as a challenge to continue.

Again... just joking.

Great. You guys can continue this offline if you want.

amen !