who in this photo do you think took this screenshot?


those of you on ogl 6v6 real might know the clan tag in the screenshot.

It appears to me that whoever took the screenshot did so from spectate.

wouldnt a spectator have to have a hack installed to see someone else using a hack?

Yes the spectator would need the hack. Therefore, if the shot was taken from spectate, then the spectator had a hack and it does not mean that any of the players inthe screen shot were actually cheating.

ok
by the way, sweet ride you have there

Thanks

i was going to post another screenshot of a hacker. but i dont think it would be a good idea here. i dont want to start some crap.

Yes.
Ever since the hack skins have been out I've had a copy on my computer so I could watch a suspected cheater in spec. I've seen so many times where people said they could tell someone was cheating by watching them play. In some cases this is true but it's not real proof unless you see them firing through the black windows. On the other hand, if your spectating them with hack skins you can actually watch someone cheating as they track players movements through walls.
While at the same time it's very obvious if someone isn't cheating because you'll see them not respond to players the way they would if they were cheating.

I've always enjoyed the irony of catching a cheater by using their cheats.

This is the only missionary drawback for me. I can no longer go to spec and switch to a hack skin to verify if someone is cheating.

I'm sure some idiot will come in here, read my post and use it to justify their stupid claim how MOB cheats.
" LOOK HE ADMITTED TO HAVING CHEATS ON HIS COMPUTER. I KNEW IT.
I KNEW IT. MOB IS CHEATERS"
Well for those idiots, I'm sorry to bust your bubble.
Here is a post on mohadmin from a year and a half ago where I told server admins this was the best way to catch someone wallhacking.
http://www.mohadmin.com/nuke/modules.php?n...t=cheat&start=0

what does a opengl32 hack do?

First you must realize that the anti cheat scanners are only working with people that comply and use anti cheat software. If they had missionary installed it would not have let them use ther hacks. Until all servers are anti cheat only you will always have your typical pussies using the hacks.

their was a member of the other team lastnight in our ogl match that was caught using it after the match has ended. it came up on screenscreen saying so and so was caught trying in inject an opengl32 hack. which we disputed the match on those gounds.

What clan were you playing against?

They were playing "The Chosen Few"

Some clans on OGL do not get it do they.Why do you need to cheat?Do you suck that bad???What is the thrill of playing with a hack???How GAY can you be.Oh I OWNED everyone, I'm the best.Such a fool from Choosen Few...If it is true atleast Reverend is doing its job.....Clans or I should say players who try to cheat in ladder matches or even in regular play ruin it for those clans & players who work hard at team work & getting their skill levels up by playing all the time CLEAN.This shit makes me sick.

Oh yeah Druid you dirty rotten cheater...LOL...Just poking at ya

WOW,is that what you think Cocky.Bottom line good sir is if he/she was cheating LOOSER...See man what should only take about 1 hour to play a match has turned in to 3 hours plus.Then there is the dispute which takes forever.Its all because of losers who try to cheat.

I would be curious to know when and how this message came up, especially if OGL said this could possibly be a glitch.

I would think it would of been recored in the MW log.Right????

it shows him trying to inject opengl32 hack in match log. but how the hell can a opengl hack be a glitch. forums this is a forum trend that choosen few put in dispute manager yesterday. when we played the match we tried the first 2 maps, 26-26 1st map. 12-12 2nd map, then they talked with someone on ogl and they told us to do a 20 minute tie breaker. which we also tied 39-39. then we were told to do a sudden death 10 minute tie breaker which they ended up winning 20-9. and thats when the opengl message came up from console. so thats when we disputed it. cause i remember when that happened to gdec and we werent sure, but we knew it wasnt right.

From reading the forums it is something to do with having to wrong version of reverend. Which that I don't understand because we have had matches to where the other clan has the wrong version but it want let them stay in the server. I guess we all will have to remember Reverend is new and there are going to be things that has to be worked on. All I know it's a damn shame to have to use these programs so you can play cheat free.


But nothing against Reverend or Missionary. My hat is off to Blackbart for helping all of us play to where it is clean. It just gets me pissed off at all the damn cheaters out there that has cause all of this.

If it was the wrong version of Reverened he never would of be able to play the match.Reverend should of booted him long before the start of the match.From my experience Reverend/MW needs to verify you good.Usually if you are running an old verision thats the error that come on console.It says kicking player xyz (what ever the players name was)is running wrong verision of Reverend.Which clan ran Reverend/MW and what verision was it.What verision did the player from Choosen Few have.If he had the same verision you all were running then sounds to me someone was trying to do something fishy......I'll tell ya if thats a glitch in Reverend then its going to cause alot of headaches for everyone.Hey I could be wrong,not saying i'm right......

we were running matchwatch 1.5.2.0. i dont know which version he was running. we had a match lastweek and the whole other clan was getting kicked for having an older version 1.5.1.2. so it should have done the same to him i would think.

Your right I should of kicked him.Hate to say it but OGL gives some clans no time to update Reverend.This seems to be an on going problem.I know I for one usually don't start up my Reverend till match time.Also I work during the day.I had problems before the 2vs2 match my Reverend updated but keep freezing on me.It took me 3 rebots and 40 mintues later to get Reverend to work.Then the next day I get an e-mail from OGL saying there is a new version for Reverend & MW and no other version is accepted.So I feel sorry for the clans that night that had to scramble to try & get the server updated to the latest verisions.It seems this happen in your match the other night.Like I said in my earlier post a match that should of takin an hour at most is now over 3,then you have to go through the dispute process.Gets way out of hand.It does become stressfull, and some clans out there are no so forgiving......It also holds up the rungs on the ladders..Just look how long it took SEC8 & BAD to play their match......Oh well good luck with the dispute...Would love to hear what the out come is.....



BTW I think Reverend is great,OGL just need to give a day or two to let the clans update everything fully...Thas all....

theres a few of us that have been battling the freezing problem during matches with reverend. it sucks when your shooting at someone and you freeze, then your dead when your able to move again.

Happend to me also in our match 6vs6 against /BAD./ & our 2vs2 aginst RealDeal & Panzer....I keep freezing up for like 2 to 3 seconds it was like a big lag spike.My ping was fine....Maybe lack of bandwith????Sometimes it works fine....Just the nature of running programs I guess.....

Your admin ruled over the dispute opposing you and The Chosen Few_AA.

Ruling: i would like to start off to thank both teams for there screen shots. ok i have gotten the screen shots that was needed to find out if [-cf-]Maj. Jeremiah Johnson was hacking or not./ after reviewing the screen shots i found no opengl hacks or anything illigal in his files. so that leave\'s me to believe match watch/Reverend had a glitch that causted that message. it has happen before so that is what must have happend here. i would like to thank Squad Killers 6v6 #1 for bring that to my every one\'s attantion because you never know if it was glitch or if some one tried to hack. i am sure any team would have done the same. any ways i am going to report the win for CF since they played clean and fair. if any of you guys have any questions feel free to e-mail me at deltaranger@ogl.org. Thanks

I talked to blackbart about what could have happened. He said the guy could have closed the game out. And before Reverend got done doing it's thing he opened up a different program. So to everyone when done with a match wait until reverend gets done zipping and to its thing before you open anything up. It might save some grief.