LTC.Bradl3y
03/31/04 1:57am
OK i was playing at MOB all night, being respectful, talkin to the players, getting my arse whooped by a member of IW named sammy half the time haha, and out of nowhere after hours of playing, here is what happened:
i was discussing with someone how a clan can cheat on their own server even if it is running missionary, i followed that up with MOB is not cheating however beause they have stock only and ive spectated them and they play clean they just kick ass...
shortly after i said something about that, i got kicked, so i rejoined and it kicked me for banned IP, i assumed that one of the MOB members misunderstood what i said and thought i was accusing them of cheating, so i kept rejoining trying to clearup the misunderstanding, one of the times i joined a member informed me that iw as kicked for attempting to crash the server...
so i asked, how did i attempt to crash the server? and MOB guy (not sure of his name, ends in 999 i think) said i dunno you tell me, the anticheat said you did..
I said well i did not do anything and i reccomend you contact the developers of this program about this bug...
he of course did not believe me and just said "right..."
i asked what program it was, and he said MOH_ something
thne i said well you can not beleive me all you want and you can keep me banned as long as you want its your choice, but you are banning an innocent player and if i can get banned for this than so can any other innocent player and i recommend you get this issue checked and straightened out
and he said ok ill have druid look at the logs and left me banned...
I was running missionary, therefor i did not have mods or anytihng like that, jsut alls tock files running, kinda dissapointing when you are a good clean player jsut having fun on one of hte few good servers running missionary and after hours of playing and having fun you get banned for nothing for a glitch and of course no one belevies you because computers never mess up or have glitches...
anyways, please have this issue checked out, leave me banned if you want i guess but you are bannin an innocent player from a good server, i saw in another postin here by widow maker or something like that he got kicked and banned for the same thing, so there is obviously a glitch in that program and itd be a good idea to remove it until the developer of the program fixes the bug, over and out
-LTC.Bradl3y
Before we waste time with anything else, I would like you to clarify something you said.
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| i was discussing with someone how a clan can cheat on their own server even if it is running missionary |
One of the main reason we run missionary is so we don't have to put up with accusations from people who cant handle the level of competition on MOB servers, not just from MOB but from many of our regulars.
If you can't back up that statement, I wouldn't want you on our server regardless of it you tried to crash it or not. The biggest benefit of missionary is putting an end to all the empty baseless cheat accusations.
When you say something like that on a missionary server, you enable every single loser who cries cheat to justify themselves.
I realize you said MOB didn't but thats not the point.
So please backup what you said and explain how a team could cheat on their server even if they are running missionary.
Out of curiousity I checked the chat log
LTC.Bradl3y missionary does not stop the clan who runs the server from cheating, keep that in mind as you think you are playing on a ''cheatfree' server
LTC.Bradl3y im not saying u guys cheat im just saying i bet some servers running missionary do
LTC.Bradl3y no you guys are clean ive spectated you u jsut play the game too much lol
LTC.Bradl3y bluravr, the owner of the server can specify a list of authorized files, they can make their own cheat and name it something that isnt suspicious and add it to their authorized files list, that is how clans can still cheat on their own server
LTC.Bradl3y omg i said u guys aren cheatig
LTC.Bradl3y i said some clans do i even said i spectated you and u guys are clean
LTC.Bradl3y banning me was unnecisary i was defending your clan meanwhile saying it is possible for ohter clans to cheat, you guys are clean, its stock only and ive spectated you, your kicking me for defending you thats messed up, please unban
Just so you'll know you were not kicked or banned on purpose. It's a glitch in the program we use to run the in-game stats. With that said, we still have the problem of this
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| LTC.Bradl3y missionary does not stop the clan who runs the server from cheating, keep that in mind as you think you are playing on a ''cheatfree' server |
Although you mentioned you were not talking about us, people saying things like that can only cause problems for our server.
Here is your other mistake.
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| LTC.Bradl3y bluravr, the owner of the server can specify a list of authorized files, they can make their own cheat and name it something that isnt suspicious and add it to their authorized files list, that is how clans can still cheat on their own server |
People shouldn't comment on things if they don't know what they are talking about.
Any files that missionary has in it's authorized list has to be pre-approved by BlackBart. You actually have to send him copies of every non-stock file you want to use on your server. Even if a cheat file did make it past Bart's review, that exact same file is what everyone would use when they join the server through missionary. So even if it was a cheat file, it would be a cheat file that loads for everyone on the server, not just some people.
The people running the server can not alter the file in anyway after it's sent to Bart for review, it they did alter the file to use it as a cheat, it would be blocked from loading by missionary.
Right now you have two options.
Do some research about what you claim. Then find out you're wrong and admit it or prove it's possible.
Even though your were banned by glitch, it will not be removed until you do one or the other.
If you think this sounds harsh, to bad.
I'm not going to let someone bash this program when they don't know what they are talking about.
LTC.Bradl3y
03/31/04 4:55am
i wasnt bashing the program, however, despite how great any anti-cheat program is, there is always a possible work around, that was a theory(although now that i look at my wording i realise i did not make that clear), i never tested it and i had no desire to see if i could get past the cheat protection, i was just saying it is possible and that was one theory, which you have kindly proven wrong. I'm not going to do research on ways the cheat protection can or cannot be broken because simply i dont really care that much, i play to have fun, i was just making a comment on a way i thought it could be done, and keeping me banned for being wrong on my theory, is a bit extreme don't you think?
missionary is great, if i didnt like it i wouldnt use it, i am not bashing it dont get me wrong, its just an obvious fact that it is POSSIBLE, for it to be broken, not that it will or i want it to
hope you see what i am saying
your server is great fun and i would like to continue playing at it, but i guess you will choose to do what you think is fair, keep me banned or not
Soul Assassins
04/06/04 10:43am
I was a player that put up awesome numbers pre missonary and got banned for cheatings now all those servers are eating their words because of my play on missonary.
MOB is not a server for Newbies. They and we are just to damn good. I love it now when people say oh their cheating an the name scrolls on missonary..its smells like...victory. kudos Druid
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