Most will say it is none of my business....but I really dont care what most think. It is somewhat my business and I will explain why later.

The breakup of MOB sucks dog nuts.

I first started playing this game over two years ago. After bouncing around from server to server, not knowing what the hell "Realism" was, I landed on a server, back then just named MOB. There were a bunch of arrogant pricks in there, Cypher, Realdeal, Epacy and a hacker named Pvt Ryan. The more I played on the server, the better I got at the game, and the more I got to know some of these arrogant pricks (Cypher never did warm up to me though.) There were also some real nice guys on this server, Druid, Nixon, Casino Killa. Over time I got to know all these fucktards and played on their server religiously. From this server is where I met alot of the members of my clan now, DMG. The server was always full and we always had a blast on there, until Realdeal showed up and started crying like a little girl, cause I was always spankin his ass. Anyway, thoughs were the days.

MOB was always a clan that people respected and wanted to be a part of. They always had strict recruiting policies and it was probably as hard back then to get into the MOB clan as it is to get into the real Mafia.

Fastforward a couple of years. The game of Mohaa has dwindled down considerably from where it was then. Primarily due to lack of support from the assholes at EA Games. New games have not really taken the place of Mohaa, people just got bored with the same 6 fucking maps. But, this is still mine and many others game of choice. There are a few of us left that support the hell out of this game and do our damndest to make sure there are servers to play on and websites to yuck it up in.

So when I see a break up of a once great clan like MOB it saddens me immensely. Now instead of one great clan, their are now two lesser clans. This does not do the Mohaa community any good. There has to be a clan that half the people love and want to join and the other half hate and want it to die. When a break up like this happens both sides lose. The first half dont want to join as badly and are able to get in more easily, which lessens the value of the clan and the second half quit hating and even caring about the clan they once despised.

I guess what I am saying is that when I see the names, Little Old Man, Nixon, etc., it will always remind me of MOB in the glory days. And I will always ask, Why couldnt they just work this shit out, so that two years of building a good Mohaa clan wasnt sent to hell in a short period of time.

Good luck to both clans. It sucks that it had to happen this way. Disagreements can and should always be worked out without a divorce. Now there are two clans we have to whip the shit out of to prove they should of stuck together.

sometimes things go wrong...i can only speak for myself on this but i am upset. not that an incident happened but to what it has led to. i felt that the mob clan was the only clan that if i was asked i would join (trust me i know im not any clan material(mabe lrrp)), many reasons why from the respect honorable clans gave MOB to the way things are done. (I worked for a few people that are not the type that you would pull shit with. a real guy would never admit they were mafia.) being asked is important...but alot of people left some very good players...they have been replaced with top notch guys in turn but the feeling that came with being involved in mob in my oponion would have diminished. but like u said its not my right to say. BUT mabe it can be more of a growth. when a family gets to large they expand terrority...if the brotherhood would have remained mabe they could have joined forces and included more men a division of sorts under a larger outfit. but that dont seem to be happening. i just hope things work out. ihope i dont get flamed for this either...

That is one of the reasons. The others are because this is a gaming community that is somewhat dying. There are very few good, strong, long lasting clans out there. Clans provide servers, individuals dont. When a clan like MOB breaks apart, it hurts us all, cause more people lose interest and leave the game. Sites die, servers die and eventually there are more leaving then coming.....and the game I and many others have played for years, begins to go away. It is unevitable that it will, but I dont want to see it happen while I am still involved.

it really is up to EA, ever think of an on-line petittion? send to every clan see if that works...

TLD or MOB....... I support the community, not the clans. Everyone from Real to Blak to LOM to whoever are the people that I support. Now I just have to be a reg for both clans, because both members for both clans are the real reason I enjoy the game as much as I do. So good luck to both of you, I'll support you either way.

Sincerely and Respectfully,

Nicky Santoro(The Wise Guys)

Ashe in his strange but always funny way brings up what has been on my mind of late.
This sudden parting of the ways for many members of MOB has left me bouncing between sad, frustrated and angry depending upon the day. I sit here thinking about the impact {MOB} has had on me and in a general sense this silly game we all love to play. Prior to playing the demo of MOHAA I was a huge flight and submarine simulator fan. Now even though by today’s standards Flacon4 is about as cutting edge as the original Atria pong, I still get a huge kick of my monthly dogfight battles with my old falcon4 buddy. I can remember it as if it was yesterday, when a friend recommended I download the MOHAA demo. I remember telling him, nah.. those 1st person shooters games are stupid. It was a few days after Christmas and I didn’t have to go back to work for 2 weeks. So I decided what the hell, I got time to waste. Within the 1st hour I was hooked. I remember playing The Hunt day and night for the rest of my Christmas vacation. In fact, there were a few times when my hands went numb from playing non-stop until I finally went to bed out of sheer exhaustion. I just couldn’t get enough of the game.

When MOHAA was released at the end of January 2002, I was in hog heaven. Wow… now I had almost a dozen maps to play. Let me tell you I played them all 100’s of times during the next few months. I would load up Gamespy, head for to the server with the lowest ping and an empty slot. Then one day I happened into a server by the name s4r and I found my new home for the next few months. By a strange coincidence, the s4r server is the only reason I found my way to {MOB}. During the time I made the s4r server my MOHAA home, there were dozens of people who I regularly played with/against. The two names I remember most are Oppression and Cleaner. I was in awe of the abilities of those two guys. Although what really made there names stick with me wasn’t how good of players they were but how much I enjoyed playing against them. Unlike many of the other exceptional players on the s4r server, these guys didn’t boast about their scores, they just played the game and played it very well. My scores rarely came close to them but I always felt like a badass whenever I got in a lucky shot and killed them. I think this is the main reason why I’m such a huge supporter of Missionary. I always give some thought to the average players who will fell like they beat the king of the mountain whenever they get in those lucky shots. It’s just not the same if you know or think the top player in the server is just a cheater. It robs all the excitement and the feeling of accomplishment if you think that great player you killed was nothing but a cheater.

Several months later, I happen to find my way to the MOB server one night. 1st thing I thought of when I saw the player list was wondering if {MOB}Oppression was the same Opp from the s4r server. Well it turns out he was. I think I had been playing on the {MOB} server for less then two weeks when one night Clan Killa asked if I would be interested in joining. Keep in mind this was in the early days of MOHAA, anyone and everyone was trying to start a clan. Even average players like me had been asked dozens of times to join this clan or that clan, 90% of which wouldn’t last 6 months.
So in mid July 2002 ( I wonder how many people can accurately remember when they joined their clan, just goes to show how special MOB is to me ) Clan Killa asked if I would be interested in joining MOB. I never had much interest in joining a clan, in fact at the time I thought the whole idea of clans rather stupid.
Three things made me give MOB serious thought to joining when I had turned everyone else down. One I enjoyed playing with all of them, everybody was friendly and fun. Another reason was I really enjoyed the strong competition of most of the {MOB} members. The final and biggest reason was Clan Killa telling me Oppression had recommended me, to me that was a huge honor, so I said yes. Next came the tryout, Oh my god I was so nervous. It was ten times worse than any test I had taken in real life. Luckily, I played better than normal during my tryout or things may have been completely different.
I’m sure some of the MOB members who left saw themselves as the reason for the existence MOB.
For me I think it’s different,
When I think of MOB, I think of all the crazy shit Clan Killa use to say and come up with. It always amazed me how someone who was so computer illiterate could play so good. I think of Raven who wasn’t much of a player but was always so excited for
us during our matches. Here was a person who was so into MOB he would constantly refresh the gamespy window to check the scores during matches. The kind of person who’s enthusiasm tended to rub off and you always felt a little better after talking to him.
Rican who was the 1st person in MOB that I developed a sense of friendship with.
F_K who without his early support {MOB} would probably never of existed, plus who I think never got the recognition he deserved for all of the time and effort he put in his server. Nixon who I think I shared the most in common with as far as overall attitude. Little old man who was without a doubt one of the nicest guys in {MOB}. Here is a soon to be retired teamster who I constantly worried about the same way I would a little brother. I was always concerned he would leave because he didn’t feel like he fit in with the younger MOB players. Casino Killa who has always existed in the background, like a ghost of MOB past but one of the few MOB members I can think of who has never caused a single problem or had a bad word to say about anyone.

The question of why the split has been asked about a dozen times. I think like most problems it was caused by little stuff left unresolved. I see myself as partly to blame.
There has been a running joke for the last year and a half referring to me as the consigliere ( meaning advisor ). I’ve always been kind of the answer man at MOB. For a while I saw some of these little issues builing up but out of plain apathy did nothing about it.

For once Ashe got something right.
Now instead of one great clan we have two lesser ones. What continues to surprise me is people thought this was for the best. There have been times when I felt like walking away form {MOB} for one reason or another. I just couldn’t bring myself to do it, it just didn’t feel right to give up on something you put so much time and effort into. I only wish others would of seen it the same way.

Anyway I hope you enjoyed this short story which will now be reffered to as
"Druid, a day in the life of MOB and Mohaa"
LOL

i remember when i first started to play mohaa, i would bounce around from server to server till i found mob server#2. it was druid's server which ran custom maps. i would play that server as long as i could, until my hands would fall asleep. i didnt find any server that was as good as mob's servers, which was always full and hard to get into. mob#2 was the best server till spearhead came out and fucked it all up. they changed the #2 server to be a spearhead server. i also played on it then but it wasnt the same. i will still come into mob's servers from time to time now but nothing will be the same as back then with the custom maps they use to run. i still have the most respect for the mob members and also for the ones that have left. i remeber asking druid for help when i first got my servers, if it wasnt for him i wouldnt of even known what to do. he helped me out alot when i first started the squad killers a couple of years ago. i wish both clans the best of luck. mob has done alot of good stuff for the mohaa game and i hope they keep it up.

Originally posted by my bitch {MOB}Druid

i think for alot of guys who are not members or regs (meaning me) withhold their feelings due to flaming etc...regardless...its a sad day...i dont think of age with anyone over the computer when you speak to people on the computer it should be their personality that matters not what their age is...i could tell you i was 35 or 65 and be 15...age on here is nothing but a number...

I agree...and this is but a game (which i cant seem to get into my thick skull)...i am too competative...we all need to remember that this IS NOT our lives guys...we all love this game i agree...but it is a game...lets not get too hurt over a break up of one of the greatest clans in the game...it is a game..FLAME

ashe i agree with you. alot...for me its a break from reality i got family friends work and fire hall drama. i like it becuse we can get lost in it. we can be who we want to be...and i love ww2...in my head we can be the guy on the screen...no worries just trying to stay alive long enough to get a kill in or two. its a great stress relief. for me its either this or beer...no its not our lives but it helps us live the other parts of our lives a little easier. plus we build friends online its enivitable(?) with the time vested on the servers. alot of time people vest here keeping the game intresting for the mob members. hope this makes since ive had a little to drink lol (we need a drunk guyoverr there!!!!)

lmfao...im 16 as most of u now know...i have been in football...soccer for 13 years...basketball...and crosscountry...yes i was very competative in those...but when i decided this year that i loved my job more than sports even though i loved them more than anything ... I DID NOT DIE...now as for me NOT BEING COMPETATIVE???? lmfao man i duno what u find competative but when i used to b working bfor school for 2 hours...2nd period which was 2 hours...and after school from 4-7...i find that to be competative...man im sorry for not being competative enough for u in this game...but i do not i repeat DO NOT believe that age is a factor...and i think that is for u to say it

agreed Ashe, MOHAA is a past time and a passion. At the same time I see Flame's point. My wife, my home, my family is what I would die for. MOHAA is something I wake up and look forward to, but when I wake up and see my wife lying next to me, then that's what I look forward to. I love MOHAA, and I love the people connected with MOHAA, I will be a reg to both clans because of the people. When you work as a record producer you meet a lot of people with dreams of becoming "big" and some you see make it and some you never hear from again. But here in MOHAA I've seen people grow to become great players, great people, and make amazing friends. MOHAA is not my life, and me living life as long as I have has realized that. Though, there is nothing more satisfying then going onto Mob, or even the TLD, and hearing "hey man what's up how you been?" Therefore, I would like to say thank you to everyone who's excepted me as a Reg and as a human being in forums and the battlefield.


Sincerely and Respectfully,


Nicky Santoro(The Wise Guys)

relax ashe,have a beer. I dont see nor understand the point you were trying to make when directing your comment to flame. So what if his post was a lil off topic. See this is the "only" thing i don't care for, is some people feel they need to quote someone only to make a smart ass remark or to put them down. I mean if i wanted to i could tell everyone in this post what i did today. No big deal. Now i can understand realdeal druid and the other "mob members" haveing something to say, but not you.

I think I made my point perfectly clear. Maybe you should lay off the beer and then you would understand what people are saying.

but but but ashe, beer is good

LOL. Rum is better.

agree, i love bacardi o

Ashe I agree with you about the age, I think you guys are wise not to allow teens and kids to join. I for one know that I am not responsible and diligent enough to play in a clan such as mob or dmg simply because I am a teen, and as such have too many other things to worry about to be as committed as I would have to be. That is the main reason I have declined even consideration for several clans (including mob), not to mention joining one.

how old are you blakjack, if you don't mind me asking.

ashe my friend i cant agree with ya on age... i dont think anyone is reliable people in general are unreliable the youth of today (depending on your age would define youth) are dedicated and much more educated then gen x...sorry guys but ya got to face it im educated more then most in my neck of the woods...(must make ny look good) i see these kids 18-23 putting their lives on the line and being dedicated to what matters to them them work full time and put in hours at calls. look what we have in our service right now.....kids....they are defending our country.I would call them dedicated...and i wouldnt be compareing work ethics and resume history with a 16 y/o. BTW i had a great job about to buy a house and i got into a real bad wreck...i was messed up for three years just went back to work 2 years ago....now i have to start over agian whats this got to do with you....everything you said you could lose in a heart beat and you would have no control over it...just thank god you have it so good...

I guess Age depends alot on how a person was raised. I have seen totallty immature 30 year olds in my time. Good post none the less.

I am 17, and I will not dispute that my generation is the most educated in the history of the United States. I would tell you all my SAT score but some of the younger folks might cry lol. I still believe however that Ashe is correct in saying that teens in general are going to be less responsible than adults. My friends can atest to that fact.

Nothing beats real life experience, I thought i was an intelligent mature 18 year old, until i turned 21 and realized how dumb i was, then i turned 24 and realized how immature i was then. Life is constant learning

emmm...i guess maybe that was a lil off topic ashe but i didnt think that u would get so afended lol...

Well, Im still gonna roll on MOB servers, this is where i found the toughest competition and im gonna stay here. I used to have a different name i played under and i went through every server i could as a Reg, either getting kicked off for "cheating" ((this is premissonary)), or they didnt like my skills ;p. But i dont think there is a harder server of regs and clanners out there so this is where ill stay

i'm staying too. i'll play on the tld server by mob has been my home for almost a year and this is the server i got better at playing on. {MOB} is still #1 in my book

True that

I played on MOB's server for a long time also, but most(most not all) of the members that I got along with left, and I enjoyed playing with them. So I will be playing with them most of the time now. But I will still play on MOB's server.

and its a bunch of bullcrap people try and wreck ur servers...crash whatever happens...one good thing comes out of people leaving to play other games though it shines through the true followers...the die hards...ashe and druid im gonna go through the servers and compile all your posts and make a book, yous should be writers...

<<<<ANYONE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.....WHAT THE IS THAT!!!!

i will also be sticking in MOB server...but Hoods...i will b in ur server a lot also when it is Missionary go...and TLC i think is the name sorry if its sometin else..i will also be in ur server..but unless something happens that i would not like or something in one of the other 2 servers that i believe makes them more enjoyable then and only then will i mainly b in them more than MOB's , FLAME

btw silver i think thats a ninja? dunno fo sure

I too was disappointed when this happened.

This is the first time that I've posted here, but I've been playing on the MOB servers for a couple of years now on and off, first under a different name and later on as Malevolence.

I always saw MOB as the elite of MOHAA clans. Whenever I saw the MOB tag, I knew that player was skilled and I was pretty much killed over and over by them.

When I heard about this split, and who was leaving, I have to say honestly, that you guys lost the best mohaa players that I've ever seen. But I thought this, if you guys maintain the same high standards and recruiting methods, you could remain elite.

But then MOB went on the recruiting spree, and no offense to the regulars that joined mob (I know I'll get some flames for this), but when MOB recently took in so many at once, the elite image just went down the drain for me. I'll always respect the MOB name, and I've enjoyed playing on your server and I'll continue to do so. I'm not a very vocal player, and what I say amounts to a hill of beans, but I just wanted to put down my opinion, because I really care about MOHAA and I agree with ashe that Mob is now a lesser clan.

HOWEVER the only place I disagree with Ashe is this: whether TLD is a lesser clan or GREATER, has yet to be determined... because what they do from here on out will show every one of us which it is.

Respectfully,
Malevolence

I didnt mean TLD would be a lesser clan. I misspoke when I said that. I meant that Mob has now been tarnished by this and TLD is brand new and has no bearing on the game as of yet. Together they were good, separate it is going to take time to see. And who knows if Mohaa has much time left. There are about 6 million new games being released pretty soon. Everytime a new game is released, I see less and less people online playing Mohaa. Everytime a new clan forms and rents a server, thats less people playing on the existing servers.

Malevolence or should I just say TLD Aggression seeing as how thats who you are.
You do understand there is such a thing as IP Addresses don't you?

I can't begin to describe how disappointing I find your post.
Actually forget disappointed, disgusted would be more accurate.

Say what you will but at least have the decency to use your real name.

man im sorry but that was low agg, I had some of the same feelings (except for diesel, hes a fucking nightmare) about the recruitment spree but I'm not gonna flame those guys just cause they werent a cobra or oppression

I guess considering our past recruitment practices 4 people would seem like a recruitment spree.
You should think of it this way, what required it and why.
Without adding a few new people the server you have made you home for so long would of been rampant with cheaters. I doubt this is what you wanted even though it was obviously what TLD would of love to seen happen.

What happened? I thought this was supposed to be an amicable breakup. I thought this was about friends agreeing to see things differently and do things their own way. This is starting to sound like a bitter divorce.
Mommy! Daddy! Please stop fighting!

yes MOB misses those great players like opp, cobra, D.E.U.C.E. and co...no clan would be as strong as before when a core of their best players leaves.

But.

We have lots of new talent (Diesel anyone?) and us regs who just joined will be doing our best to rebuild MOB back to the clan it was prior to the split.
I realise that most of us new guys aren't as good as those that left, but players with that kinda skill are hard to come by.

I know I'm playing hard and practicing hard in an effort to become that good, and who knows...when the match vs TLD comes up as I'm sure it will, maybe a few people will be surprised

move forward.
realize that the bait is there but you do not necessarily have to respond to it.