Hmmmm...... Wonder what this is all about?

Just what the dying mohaa community needs, more drama. I just hope it gets settled without losing another clan from the ladder.

Im not sure why SK is contesting but mulisha said that SK would go into speck during the game.

omg what happned?

they beat em by 3

madd i agree with you there... we gotta keep this game around as long as possible.

sk disputed the match hope ogl admin figures this one out

I know it aint over yet but GREAT JOB METAL MULISHA!!!!

hacked

Good job MM!

Everybody know Metal Mulisha hacks. Thats why it was contested in the first place. j/k, sk probably just wants to win to keep number 1.

Maybe it's cuz they're letting Ernie play on thier server.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, i think im going to keep my mouth shut for now.............

Any status on this yet? I think this one's going to be a real barn-burner....

I'll try to stay in touch with Priesty or OB to get the updates.

I love drama when it doesn't involve me

word factor.

word.



i can't wait.

I WISH I knew cuz im ready to play some more matches dammit....Got a light??

WOW when was the last time OGL took this long on a dispute sense Reverend was introduced????

Someone/s from SK or MM must have something juicy OGL is look at.Only reason I see this is taking so long.OGL must want to be 100 percent sure.I could be wrong, but thats my 2 cents...

Nah, I think your 100% correct.

sucks that it is now screwing with {MOB}s challenge for #1. Is there anyway the community can put pressure on the ogl to pick up the pace a little? or do we all agree that they should take the time they need to make an informed decision?

I am not around the Mohaa world much anymore, but can someone explain to me what is going on with SK? I was looking over old match screenshots and we dogbeat them by over 160 kills on DV and even worse every other time we played them. Now I check the OGL and they are murdering everyone they play, with players that I have never heard of 3/4 of them? Did I miss something? I am not trying to offend SK, I am just curious as to how they became this mighty powerhouse when they were so easily walked over before. I could understand their new skills if all of their players practiced all the time, but I dont think practices would do much good considering the fact that I dont think any of them speak the same language. I am just curious.

thats the same queston MOB,TLD and whole MOHAA comunity are asking lol

For all of you like ashe that don't know how this is...

Me, Reject, and Rocker have always been around and been in SK for years, but about 6 months ago, a few members from KwS clan merged in with us (pernoob, hans, injector) there's our 6v6 team, and a few others that are on team 2.

P.S - and yes for a while we were practicing 2 or so times a week, but not we'eve slowed waaaaay down.

well i really dont understand you ASHE ,in the last 3 scrims that we played you , we owned you bad, and i mean bad , and you even had hitler playing , and as far as i know hitler is the best DMG member, and SK became this good because we practiced alot and SK combined with my KwS clan, so just to remind u , we beat u since this combination happened , and i think it was 4 or 5 scrims , and we won all of them , and we even beat u by over 100 kills in remagen and u got pissed and said lets do it in DMG server because im lagging ,lol ( of course it was an excuse) and we even owned u in your server after that , so u know we have been doing good, and a SK is always up for 6on6 scrim and we do reverend and everything , u can even get nastynate to spec us lmfao

yes, =SK= use to not suck...but just not be competition to a clan like DMG but that's when we had some less skilled shall we say members playing...they are great people but the fact is they weren't the best mohaa players and now we have a 6v6 team filled with highly skilled players and of course lots of practice and strategy comes in there too. we put it all together when we merged with KwS and it has come out wonderfully for us. and btw ashe we all speak the same language...just some of us speak 2 languages

well

FYI - 2 times a week is not alot.

Hasnt Reverend been hacked? Did any of your players know about Reverend being hacked? Did they tell or warn the OGL about Reverend being hacked? Have any of your players ever tried to bypass Reverend, just to see if it can be done? Ever try to bypass Reverend during a scrim? I know how you will answer all these questions, so dont bother trying insulting other clans on the Ogl's intelligence.

Look at the collective wins for KWS and for SK on the OGL. Last time Mob played KWS on Remagen they beat them by exactly 200 kills. Last time we played SK we beat them by 168 kills. Now all of a sudden you are unbeatable? Bullshit. You take two teams that couldnt beat a clan made up of one armed people from the Helen Keller School of Art and Dance, put them together and all of a sudden they are the second coming? Sure. You can polish a turd all day long, but at the end of the day it may be shiny, but it is still a turd.


Doodle, I would be interested to hear what you have to say about all this.

Now that we all know about the by-pass... Anyone know when it came out?

im guessing mid to late march ; )

Wrong yet hilarious

how is that wrong? It's true. Neither team could beat anyone....now nobody can touch them....including the two top ranked teams. I dont think so.

The Hellen Keller School of Art and Dance...just seemed wrong but fucking hilarious

oooo my bad. O it was hilarious...i have a friend who plays CS under the name Cyber Hellen Keller...he holds his mic in and yells WA WA.

LMAO!

Actually yeah I spoke to Smokin about it as soon as I heard. The ladders are a team sport just like football, how many teams are very successful when they have a defense but no offense or vice versa? You can't have half a team in competition or sport. Just look in the MOHTruth blog when KWS was leaving the ladder and how many came out and said how good they were and not to leave. Well we took some of those players along with some from SK and made a team that works well. I'm one of the least skilled players on our team but I still hold my spot most matches and let the others win it for us. There isn't a clan around that has 6 equally talented players and even RSHA and RE were teams with some players better than others. I might add that those teams were pointed at and called hackers when they were winning too.
We have another team on the 6v6 ladder too, one that is starting to come together and play competitively. If SK was hacking wouldn't they be kicking ass too? I guess it's human nature or maybe just poor sportmanship to always assume someone has to be cheating if they are playing better than you. We all see it in school, our work and even families at times it's called JEALOUSY. You will hear very little sniping or demeaning talk from =SK= and rarely will we initiate any confrontation with any clan. I would HOPE to see the same from all the clans because at this point in MOHAA we all need each other. If the ladder keeps shrinking because clans get tired of the crap then it won't be there for any of us. Whether we win or lose this dispute I feel confident that it will be on merit not because someone at =SK= was caught hacking. I certainly hope that the delay isn't caused by any mishap with MM either because we need them too.
It seems all too often that these accusations come from outsiders or players that no longer play this game so thay have no stake in it's longevity. Maybe Ashe doesn't care because he's moved on to other games but I do care as most of you do. Every time we get mired down in crap like this it hurts the game. I think our challenge is to work together and stem the migration away from MOHAA by involving more players in clans and competition.
Rocker

Well shit, I guess Reject was on my pc last. The above post is Rocker's not Reject.

In response to that. Cheating is the reason why I no longer play Mohaa. Mohaa was the first online game I ever played and the game I still love the most. But after 3 years of bullshit with hacks, cheats, morons, lack of support by EA and poor decisions by ladder admins, I said enough is enough.

I have played with you, Rocker, for quite a long time, and I have no doubts that you do not cheat. I can not say the same for some other members of your clan. My clan has been together for almost three years, playing Mohaa exclusively. We know the ins and outs of this game very well (as do Mob, TLD, Bom, 3rd ID etc.). After playing with your clan in our first scrim, every member of my team unanimously agreed that there was some bullshit going on. I have never left a scrim in the middle of it, even when we were relatively new and Mob would pimp slap us. I left our first scrim for one reason only...members of sk were hacking. It was due to playing SK that we made it a DMG rule that we would not ever scrim again without using Reverend.

Lo and behold!!! I find out that Reverend has been hacked. I may not be a genius or a mathmetician, but I can put 2 and 2 together.

Lets go to the video tape.


1)The old SK and KWS couldnt beat TLD or Mob if TLD or Mob played 6 on 12.

2)SK loses its first match back on the OGL to whom? Hoods. No offense to Hoods but they suck dog balls. They were worse then the original SK. They never beat anyone.....ever. Please dont say, "We were short handed" or "blah blah blah". If you can cleanly beat TLD and the like, you can beat Hoods 4 on 6, while masterbating to a Tijuana donkey show in the middle of a power outage on dial up internet. We beat at least half a dozen clans 5 on 6 over our career. In fact we never lost due to being short handed and this was before Reverend was bypassed.

3)Reverend gets bypassed.

4)SK beats everyone they ever play. Including clans that have practiced "twice a week" for several years. Things that make you say "Hmmmm?"

Come on. Spare the OGL and the Mohaa community the time and effort. Admit that someone was hacking in SK. Admit that they were using the Reverend Bypass so SK can break up and the remaining Mohaa clans can pick up the good clean players. You are on a sinking ship, no need to be a hero and go down with it.

Everyone that has ever played "The New and Improved Super SK" unanimously agrees that there is something fishy going on. Please don't insult our collective intelligences with anymore bullshit. You have always been a good guy, get off the short bus that is SK before it is to late.

ashe u are one funny mofo....

What I know on this subject, I know at one time there was a bypass that got passed Reverend, I found this little program on a hacking site, I emailed the program to Blackbart, He email me back and told me he knew about the bypass and it was being took care of. He said if anyone run the program it would be caught in the SS's of the matches, But everyone needed to look at the SS of matches to see, He said it takes both reverend and people to fight the hackers,

So until anyone is found cheating it means there clean, Guys play the damn game, Quit worrying about this one hacking or that one, Look at the SS of every match I dont even care if you trust the other clan. Ask for them and look. I saw why SK disputed this match, I know everyone of us would have disputed it, Maybe Rocker will show you when the dispute is over,


Reject give me, Tank, Pain, And Lineman 4 of the old SK guys, Me being the weakest link. And I bet we just might beat you, I know you think we had no skills, But you have another think coming, To me Tank was one of the best mohaa players ever, and Pain played just about like him, Me and lineman played so much together, we knew what the other was doing without saying a word,

Damn it guys this is one of the reason I play cod uo. It has punkbuster and believe it or not stuff gets passed it, But punkbuster does have a SS program and it takes SS of all players on the server and stores them there, So all a admin has to do is go look, And if you have your server setup streaming like we do, And you find something wrong, All you have to do is email the SS to punkbuster and the creeps will be add to the master ban list,

Ea games sucks donkey dicks for not keep mohaa updated. And I believe if they would have the game would be going strong, But right now it's a dieing game, And stuff like this takes more and more out of the game, Have a great day guys,

please excuse the grammar and the spelling,

well, everyone is entitled to their opinion and even though yours is way behond help i will say a few things. there is only 1 way you will ever accept that =SK= just got it together and put a great team together and that's for you to sit right beside us while we play. now that everyone knows/thinks a by-pass is out everyone immediately puts that to why we are kicking butt. hell, i know ktulu lives in tampa, florida where i live, if he's a trusted member of MOB and the community have him spec me, khemist, and rocker right from our comps. then he can come back and tell everyone what a nice, clean game we play....but im sure you don't want to actually find out it's all skill so you will just keep thinking what you will. i have played this game since it came out along with khemist and rocker...and we never have or will hack. i don't believe anyone is calling el p a hacker so that leaves hans and injector. these 2 are great players and once again no hacks...so there is a 6v6 team with NO hacks but GREAT skill and through practice we all work great together in games. and about the hoods game...it's been so long i don't even remember anything besides we were 4v6 and what can i say...every clan has it's bad and good days... TLD said it was a bad day when we took 1st and so be it they might beat us when we play again.

Actually, I do recall the Hoods games ashe, and the simple fact of the matter is it was a 4v6 on stalingrad, and we got trapped everywhere we spawned, and we either got naded to death, or just mowed over, not much we can do, or any other clan under the same circumstances.

Doodle, yourself, lineman, tank, and pain are not weak at all, just way back when, we didn't have any teamwork whatsoever, and our plans were just weak, but not you guys at all, I think you misunderstood reject.

4v6 would be an advantage. Less bodies for them to shoot at. Every try playing a 2v2 as a 2v1...its a slaughter. The other team has more eyes, but the team with less players has more to shoot at and less deaths to give.

In some cases and maps itcan be an advantage, but so what? we slipped up a time, had a bad day, who cares, stop trying to look for anythign and everything to explain why we have beaten you guys and are #1, I have no doubt in my mind that you guys will challenge us again and have a great chance at winning, same as TLD.

Cough Cough BULLSHIT Cough.

First off you got beat already so relax.Second off there was no Rev bypass when RSHA was playin.IF RSHA Was still together that asswould still be gettin spanked just like it did by MM.SK's cockyness was their downfall...there isnt a clan aorund with 6 equally talented players...we got some real fuckin comedians playin this game.

Even when rsha was together...they werent beating teams like us as bad as sk did. I know you all didnt get that good over such a short period of time.

and the last 2v2 match...atima left the second it started so we played the whole first map 2v1 while he tried to get it running...we stomped on him. i was 11/4 and injector was 4/4 so it was 15/8... so i disagree 2v1 is an advantage

sorry to say your all a sad bunch of losers the best clan that was a bout was {6Pnzr} you lot still going on about mohha bloody hell get with it guys

all i have to say is yes we might not have gone over tactics, as much as we should have, but we made it up to 3rd in the ogl, before the whole ogl went to hell. when we started we where happy to make it to the first page, now you start on the first page. that is really sad.