Please dont close down the COD UO 24/7 cassino server

i greatly greatly greatly agree.
thats 3 greatly's.


please don't.

I used to spend endless hours on the 24/7 Cassino server, but if traffic is low and it needs to be closed then so be it. The server had a good run at least

a lot of people still play there, people like Wolf & i who are regulars there would really hate to see it go. i know a lot of other people would agree with me who play there.

Well you could see it coming. Still I see some plusses at it, you won't have to listen to my wierdo talks anymore.... As I don't have much reasons to stay here than.

I agree with wolf and lipt don't close it please i see a lot of regular on that server!!!

And it's fun and friendly and causy and beautiful....oooooo look at the butterfly!!!!

Ther's even flower on that map you can't say it's not beautifulllllllll!

There is no firm decision yet to close any server.
Initially, closing one of the Barb servers was the obvious answer,
As it would allow us to offer the widest range of games.
This was before finding out a new version of Barb was about to be release.

Cassino right now is the slowest of all our servers.
I'm not fond of the idea of closing cassino, even though I don't play on it so it doesn't effect me.

If there was enough support for a Cassino server, one option would be to
rent one just for the people who only play Cassino.
There has been several people saying don't close it but are there enough who would
be willing to cover the cost of running a seperate one?
Between 10 people it would only cost $5-$6/month

I will put in my vote, if it helps, to keep the Cassino server. My team has had it's own servers since MOH and as of the past 6 months I pretty much play your Cassino server exclusively when I can. Part of it is I'm just getting sick of Revolt, I'm not a big fan of CoD2, and ofcourse the great competition and friendly people on your Cassino server.

I'm already financing servers for my own team, but might be willing to help out to keep the MOB Cassino server up. Have you checked out www.escapedturkey.com at all? It's $25 a month for 35 slots. We've run a few servers through them in the past and they are cool guys.

I also have a question about the Cassino server. Is it run on a box with other servers that are busy/full? It's been really laggy lately... more than usual. Not a complaint, just a question.

its been so laggy i've hardly played it. barb never ever lags for me. cassino almost always has a least a little lag.

Cassino and RhineValley were always laggy maps, all the way back to when UO was released. (Just a random note.)

Those are impressive prices over at EscapedTurkey. The best price I had seen for a UO server was $2/slot and they're below $1/slot.

They are cheap because of one reason, they expect only seasoned server admins to sign up. They don't offer much amateur support although there are FAQs and forums available. You get the server and a really sweet control panel which allows you to create seperate startup lines, so you can run Cassino 24/7 and in 3 minutes, have the server restarted with a different setup. It worked very well for us since we were changing up our stuff alot. Also, you can load and unload games from their game list... so if you decided you wanted to run HL2 one day on it, then CoD:UO, then CoD2, then BF2.. it's all a click of a button then editing the config. Pretty cool.

Don't get rid of Cassino, it's still active just not as much as others. Same people all the time. Great and fun to the end. It would be a shame to see it go, it's one of the few reasons i still play COD and not Battlefield 2 all the time, or in other cases get sucked back into WoW =( anyways don't close it please.

Edit: I would like to donate for a server but I don't have a credit card

Cassino is a nice change of pace from bases. Lags up alot though at times...I'm not sure if its occuring when alot more players are on.... seems my fps are higher when about 16 or less players are on. Would reducing the max. number of players be a good compromise. Seems worth keeping as there's a loyal following for that server. Paypal is another option for donations btw, for those curious on various ways of donating.

The reason escaped turkey is so cheap is they use the Cogent network.
You won't find any reputable game server hosting company using Cogent.
Even worse escaped turkey doesn't have more than 1 data pipe supplying their datacenter.
Cogent is fine for things like web, VOIP where latency isn't critical but in gaming where latency is death, cogent is the single worse provider while being the cheapest.
Cogent has improved somewhat over the last year or so but they are still far from being a teir 1 provider.
Here is a short list of there problems
2003 went into chapter11 because they couldn't pay their bills to cisco
2005 Shut-off their peer connection to level3, causing all types of problems
This year alone their stock price dropped from $25+ to $5/share, they are in trouble even after overselling their bandwidth to raise money.

BTW escaped turkey just annouced they will be offering a premium service
$35/month is you want to use a real pier1 backbone versus the POS cogent
From their own page.
Why is Premium better?
Premium (Internap) is hooked up to multiple backbones, whereas the Standard bandwidth is hooked up to one backbone. If your local ISP is connected to a backbone that isn't the same as standard it will be forced to peer the connection. Peering can cause routes to fluctuate, ping times to go higher, and you will encounter more hops in a route. Premium (Internap) is connected to all the major backbones so you will more likely get a route with fewer hops, lower pings, and less or no fluctuation.

Even at $35 the only way escaped turkey will make money is either buy hosting lots of empty unused servers or overselling every machine to the point the cpu chokes.

i don't really think a lot of guys know how much the regulars of Cassino like it. we pretty much play it daily, and we all are friends with eachother. and since just about all of us are good there, the games are always exciting. my CoD playing would drastically lower if it was shut down, barb's get boring & very repititve in a short time for me (not to mention drawn out).

i can't stress to you guys enough how much i want you to keep cassino running.
i won't bug you guys anymore about it, though.

Regarding Druid's post, as much as I loved their service and cp, we did lag a bit when we went through EscapedTurkey. Anyways, just offering some alternative options. I'm sure if you ran it w/the same setup you have on your Cassino server now, lag wouldn't be a huge issue. No tanks, no smoke, etc. Inserting a mod to make artillery available at 70 kills would be cool too, I've noticed that if it's a busy day on the server many people will have artillery for the last 10-15 minutes of the map. This causes alot of lag as we're getting arty strikes every minute.

haha, nice avatar pez.

Arrested Development is the best show out there! Hopefully Showtime or ABC will pick it up since FOX is retarded.

Arrested Development = best show on Television.

nooooo, ... especially with Scrap B's latest AT long range arty analysis, new strategies are developing. With that the challenges are fiercer than ever with 2 sides clashing knowing what they have to do to win faster than the other. In other words nooby individual play is becoming rare and team tactics is predominating more than ever.

well for me it gets boring, for me doing better in cassino takes more skill then it does in a tank.

Barb is pinning down the oposition at their spawnpoints and storm their bunker with coverfire from arty, tanks a/o fixed gun enplacements... the infantiry gets wiped away by massive fire from tanks and this results in that fighting is done at medium-long range with tanks with people who like to walk (like me) are on defence, ambushing tanks and give them supressing fire with bazooka's... This all is damn dangerous at the end as bazooka's or anti-tank weapons arent available enough and when you shoot on a tank which is on medium-long range, you get a massive shell on your head.. for me it gets boring quite quick. Cassino you're all the same and you dont have weapons with unlimited ammo, massive damage and good range like tanks.
Even more so, tanks give quite good protection even while their visability is avarage to poor.. Cassino is about out-tricking your oppenent by nippy footwork, solid aim and unpredictible ever-changing tactics.

A tank gunner's worst enemy is crafty infantry who know how to slip past a complacent or inaccurate defender in a tank. Or worse, 3-4 infantry in jeeps who provide too many targets and close the distance too fast for the tank to take them all out.

If you want to get used to the Barbarossa map without tanks, try the 24/7 CTF server (FKs?). I'll sometimes play over there... CTF is definitely different on a large map like that.

lol the best BAS players can take a heav y in 3 hits max and be so stealthy on foot to clear inft, pak, 88's and plant before the enemy has a chance to find them. the best bas barb player i have ever seen is {MOB} Shadow... by far... crafty and a terror at the tanks.. its a shame we lost him to COD 2

i like to nimbly run around on foot. it keeps me on my toes. i really dislike using tanks.

i used to be the same way lipton. Except i got tired of running all the way over the the other end to be killed by a tank, so now i take a tank it has grown on me, i don't always take one but killing people in a tank feels good expecially seeing the thing blow up while they are in there.

well in cassino, the map isn't huge and u don't have to run far to get across the map, oh yeah no tanks =)

I would say there are great tank/jeep maps like Foy. Barbarossa is so huge, you almost need a vehicle just to get around. I got sick of it when I'd spend alot of time moving towards the battle and then get wiped out by a tank or the spawn rapage was pretty much the map entirety... just a waste of time. Don't get me wrong, had some good times too.

What i like about high intensity tdm maps like Cassino [today I scored 126-57, but we lost ] is thinking fast in constantly volatile situations which hones skills for base rushes and village warfare on Barby map. Barby map though huge should be looked at in a different light. If you look at it as just going from A to B you'll miss the beauty of the map. The terrain of Barby requires finding a general opposing team's weakness in a certain sector for you to exploit.

Spawn rampage comes about if the team you are on falters by neglecting defence. Thinking stealthily pretty much drastically negates getting wiped out by a tank while moving in battle. If you are a tanker constantly checking all around you rather rushing ahead past blindspots negate the chances of partypooper rocketeers like me shooting the tank in the rear and into oblivion.

You can also spend a good portion of the fight defending a threatened base seeing alot of action without the necessity of feeling like you need to move forward. What horrifies me is seeing a team rush take out the crucial first base to plan, but seeing the enemy is using the same tactic and pummeling your own crucial base- its then the savvy player realises both teams are playing no defence - the team who decides to rush back and save one base will win.... but drunk with success of quick base elimination no one attacking cares to go back to defend.

So, what I'm saying is Barby is complex and needs to be seen as a progression of tactics/decisions rather than seeking instant/consistent action. To me, definately not a waste of time. What might help you is staying in cover a little bit and scoping out the area first where you intend to move over and take a path where you can run for cover should danger arise.

Nimbly run eh?? Liar you like to hang out in that hotel the whole time! Oh I didn't just tell everyone about your secret hiding place?

Hiding in the hotel is the best part... only a few of us know about the King of the Mountain challenge.

i nimble run on barby, sir.
haha.


and i keep telling everyone it should be called something like "Lipton's Land" or something. i own that building.

In that case, I'd like to see the map modded where upon getting 100 points you get Deomlition charges to blow up an entire building - including Lipton the Landlord.

That new Extreme mod for CoD2 has a Napalm feature when you get X kills. Haven't seen it yet, but sounds cool.

Ha in any other game I would KILL you lipton, lets take it to Doom 3, or SWG, WOW, GW, Battlezone 2 (lol now thats old) Battlefield 2!!!

the only other video/console game i play is sports (madden, NBA Live..) or halo. for which i doubt you could beat me.

i own that hotel...

played on a merciless server and they had mustard gas and the monintov bottles as well... (fuck it i cant spell) sweet mod but get boring...
best I have played is a gay server, but they have a mac 10 50 cal pisstols MP5, ak 47, and a shit more

haha, awesome.

+1 to keeping Cassino open. I'm on it several times a week. I'd have to find some other place to handbag people to death.

Also, I have (and would be willing to continue) donated in the past, if that's what it takes.

But I want smoke back. Too many spawnkillers (myself included) lining up on all the spawn points. Smoke helps me evade a little...

we have a different thread for that.

yeah.. new to this thread but i agree not to take the cassino server down..

LL, I looked around so I could chime in, did a search even, but can't find it...

under UO:Discussion click here

we discuss smoke too, but nothing's been changed. <--- just the way i like it. NO SMOKE.

Everyone gets spawn killed. Weather it be by a sniper, Satchel, Grenade or Tommy Whore. The smoke does not stop the spawning from Satchel, Grenade or Tommy Whore's. It only stops the snipers from getting spawn kills. It also is a negative for the ass's that dislike snipers and throw them in front of them even though they are on the same team. It also lags the server. Unless you can limit the smoke to where you get one after so many kills, I agree that leaving smoke out is better overall.