Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many "friends" of the Clintons .[/color]



1) James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.



2) Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.



3) Vince Foster - Former White House councilor and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose Law firm. Body found in a wooded park with no dirt on the soles of his shoes. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.



4) Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.



5) C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.



6) Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".



7) Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.



8) Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock . Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton . He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.



9) James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas .



10) James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.



11) Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.



12) Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.



13) Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.



14) Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.



15) Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.



16) Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.



17) Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.



18) Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.



19) Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.





20) Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. DiedNovember 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.



21) Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.



22) Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton 's mother, stepfather and brother.



23) Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.



24) Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.



25) Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.



26) Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1,1994, when his plane exploded.



27) Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.



THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:



28) Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.



29) Keith McMaskle - Died - stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988.



30) Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.



31) Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.



33) James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".



34) Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.



35) Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.



THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:



36) Major William S. Barkley, Jr.

37) Captain Scott J . Reynolds

38) Sgt. Brian Hanley

39) Sgt. Tim Sabel

40) Major General William Robertson

41) Col. William Densberger

42) Col. Robert Kelly

43) Spec. Gary Rhodes

44) Steve Willis

45) Robert Williams

46) Conway LeBleu

47) Todd McKeehan



[color="black"] Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clinton 's! This makes corrupt politicians look like Sunday school teachers .

Seen it before. I heard Hillary's "Hit List" is longer.

LOL! I guess Hillary was right. There really is a vast right wing conspiracy out to get her and hubby. Who else could have combed through the 100,000+ who've worked with or had some contact with the Clinton's or the Democratic party over the last 20 years, compliled a list of everyone who died, and point a finger at the Clintons!?!?! LOL. Hillary giving the go ahead for the assasination of almost 50 people because they dared worked with her!?!? Okey Dokey. And the twin towers were really destroyed by Isreali agents whose plan was to conscript America into ther war again Middle East enemies more fully!

Sorry Undead, you're a cool dude, but this is ludicrous. The Clinton's, who aren't even in "power" anywhere, have and continue to assassinate dozens of people who've had any connection to them or their party? Come on! IMO, all this proves is that anyone can make a compelling conspiracy theory if you ignore any counter-arguments or evidence. After all, I can make a fairly convincing argument about the Isreali thingy...as long as you don't poke any holes!

And I bet Bush is the one who lured Katrina to hit New Orleans, planted evidence against Micheal Jackson, blew up the twin towers, caused global warming, and is the guy with Paris Hilton on that video tape. Pretty good for an idiot.

MOD, the Clintons have been in power since the late 70's. Atleast in Arkansas. Then the free world. Then NY. I don't think it's just a strong coincidence that majority of those people just died. Gun shot to the back of the head ruled as a suicide? Give me a break. Living in the DC area, I have many friends that worked with or under both Bill and Hillary. I've heard nice things about them, they're both very charming and intelligent, but never cross them. I hear that from everyone. Never cross them.

Right. Never cross them, or they'll have you asassinated. LOL! Really, I'm sorry, if you believe this, you don't deserve the right to vote.

As long as Hillary's a senator the assinationations can continue! LOL! 102 senators inthe US...LOOK OUT!

Hey James, a great source for checking the validity of such things is the Snopes Urban Legends site. They have placed a big, fat red "False" label on this one. Their indepth discussion about the list is well worth the read:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

Let's see, urban myth on the Clintons

-versus-

3,682 soldiers killed, 30,000 wounded, 100,000+ civilians killed in the republican's war of choice, with governmental corruption and incompetance on a scale unparalleled in all of U.S. history. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

And who has killed all those soldiers and civilians and the brought down the twin towers? oh yeah, George Bush. It couldn't have been extreme Muslims that have vowed to Destroy the USA. That's just rediculus. All those suicide bombers must be Republicans.

now you see i even got david to post .

I hear you snot, but the fact is that Bush has kept our own soldiers over there way too long. With no real reason to be there anymore and no exit strategy. He literally is killing our soldiers. Weather he wants to or not, its happening.

I'm not saying people will get asassinated, just saying that they're not people you would want to cross. Maybe all the above it some crazy coincidence... but it's obvious that they've fucked up before and maybe they were trying to cover their tracks. I'm not trying to turn this into some political debate at all... I'm not anti-Clinton. The Bush family has their own record of funding Nazis, drugs, DWI, etc.

Also, don't tell me I don't deserve to vote. I've served in the US Army, spent time pushing documents for new legislation, volunteered for my local chapters.... I'm pretty active in the whole process and to have someone tell me that I don't deserve to vote kind of pisses me off.

Sorry if I came off as insulting. Had a couple drinks, it came out a little mean. Sorry. However, read the "snoops" piece and you'll see how you put something like this together. Anyway, it is wrong to think, as the snoops article points out, that the Clinton's could literally get away with getting a couple dozen people assasinated without one legitimite news story on the matter. Instead, it was the product of a right wing group trying to smear Clinton when he was president. Sleazy, and something that people should not believe in any way, shape or form, especially with the snoops article pointing out how they misrepresent the circumstances of many of the persons deaths.

People have to stop letting their politcal affect affect how they process information. It is fine to be Clinton haters if you wish, but please, don't assume the are having all those around them who "know too much" assasinated. That's as crazy as assuming Bush and his neo-con friends were the one's behind blowing up the twin towers so they'd have an excuse to start their wars. I've seen e-mails on both. I believe neither without some compelling evidence that can't be debunked within a few seconds.

Wow, that's an old list. I think cowdoc first sent that to me when Bush and Gore were squareing off. Regardless of it's validity you guys sure have brought up a lot of issues. Let me start by saying I don't consider myself a Democrat or Republican, however I frequently vote Dem as their social policies tend not to be as backward as the Republicans. I also hate the way the Republicans use the religious factions in our country to try and maintain economic control of people, when they don't believe in half the shit they feedback to the religious right. Listen to Karl Rove gloat and you'll know what I mean.



First, all Americans have a right to vote, except those criminals that lose that civil right like Scooter Libby (although he'll get those back when Bush pardons him next January). It's a said fact that less than half of Americans exercise that right. It the least we could do for all those who fought and died and continue to fight so we can live in the greatest country in the world! (Sorry Canada, you guys are a close 2nd)



Next, the assholes that took down the twin towers are still running around in Afpakistan and we let them live and grow and expand instead of hunting them down and holding them responsible as we should have. Why? So our moron president could exercise some personal vendetta? Maybe, maybe not, hopefully history will reveal the true story before we're all trying to figure out how we're going to retire with no social security. In any case he has continually demonstrated himself a terrible manager of anything but prayers and deceiving the public. Any company worth their salt would have fired him long ago. Kind of funny to think that when Clinton was leaving office few Dems wanted him helping out with their campaigns, I'm willing to bet Bush will get the same treatment.



What are we left with? Well we still have the greatest country in the world although we're slightly more paranoid than we used to be. Unfortunately we're stuck in a cluter-fuck in Iraq where we can just go home but the staus quo is killing our soldiers and innocent civilians on a daily basis. Not to mention bolstering Iran and other countries who are probably more of a threat than Saddam ever was. We are then stuck spending trillions of dollars to rebuild a country that turns around and destroys our hardwork because they can't compromise on religious beliefs. While back at home our own internal infrastructure needs billions of dollars of updating, public schools in most places are below expectations, people go hungary and can't afford basic healthcare.



I guess that's enough ranting for now. Can you say Obama?

Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah.

Get a grip people. Can't you see that there are people that wish to destroy our country?!?! All those embassy attacks, the Cole, Twin Towers..wake up the fuck up! This has nothing to do with the political ramblings of Bush or Clinton or Bill Gates.

Countries like Afghanistan, Iran, S. Korea, the former Pakistan, the former Iraq, the former Lybia, all have willingly supported and harbored those that plan our destruction. Bill Clinton did nothing and that brought us another embassy attack, the Cole, the Twin Towers. Bush decided to DO something. Right or Wrong.
Yes, Iraq is a difficult mess because the Iraqi peolpe don't appear ready or willing to grab the opportunity for freedom that has been handed them and because as Osama has stated "we must win in Iraq". Osama is taking the fight to us in Iraq. Sure Bush/Congress/Senate/Pentagon has made mistakes in this effort but we have learned and changed.

The RISK to pulling out is that MILLIONS of Iraqi's will likely die as extremist of different breeds move in to take over. Do you know who the first people to die will be? Those Iraqi's that are currently helping and supporting us. Of course, you surely can see why so may Iraqi's want to help us when half our political leaders is telling them were pulling out any day now.
For those of you that advocate pulling out, YOU must share the responsibility of those millions of innocent lives that will be lost. So much for bleeding heart liberals wanting to help out oppressed people. Fakers all.

For those 2 young to remember 'NAM. When we pulled out 2 million Cambodians alone were slaughtered because we were not there to keep Pol Pot's and the other thugs in check.

During the Korean war, Trumans polls number were WORSE than Bush's. Most of you are probably suprised to here that because history considers Truman a success, because he stood up to aggression and fairly succeded. S.Korea is an economic shining star in the east.

This is the same thing we need in the middle east. An economic shining star to turn the tide of fanatisism that exists over there.

Again, I'm not saying that the list was directly Clinton's doing. Just saying that it seemed like more of a coincidence and that it could happen. For all the stuff that the Clinton's HAVE been busted for, there are probably quite a few that they got away with. But I'm not dogging the Clinton's, I think it really boils down to all politicians are pretty evil. I'm sure most get in for the right reasons, but after pork barreling and scratching each other's backs for a long time, it's all about money, votes, money, and more money. Most don't give a shit about you and me.

I agree with most, but they AREN"T assassins, or affiliated with assassins. Read the scoop article. You can't keep pushing aside the logic of that article for a wildly speculative E-mail offering no proof whatsoever from 1998. That is called "cognitive dissonance". The ability to reject facts based on a preconceived notion. It's why 1/3rd of American's continue to believe Saddam was involved in 9/11 despite the face BUSH himself admitted there was no connection. Problem was, 1/3rd of Americans made up their mind 3 or 4 years ago Saddam did it, and no proof will stop them from believing it. I hope no one here falls for the trap of "cognitive dissonance" wherein they reject fact for a story that fall within a preconceived notion with no evidence to support it.

"It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong. As president I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq," he told a foreign policy forum on the eve of elections to establish Iraq’s first permanent, democratically elected government. "And I’m also responsible for fixing what went wrong by reforming our intelligence capabilities. And we’re doing just that."

"We are in Iraq today because our goal has always been more than the removal of brutal dictator," he said. "It is to leave a free and democratic Iraq in his place."

"My decision to remove Saddam Hussein was the right decision. Saddam was a threat and the American people and the world is better off because he is no longer in power," the President told the Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars.

"Our statements about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein were based on the aggregation of intelligence from a number of sources and represented the collective view of the intelligence community," national security adviser Stephen J. Hadley said in a White House briefing in November 2005. "Those judgments were shared by Republicans and Democrats alike."

Leading democrats sat on the National Security Council and saw the same "evidence". They NEVER said anything contrary to what Bush said.

Since Saddam was in clear viloation of 23 UN Security Violations Bush could have acted without congressional support. The Democrats demended a vote. Bush relented and a vote was taken. Nearly all the Democrats voted for the war.
So will someone PLEASE tell me how the democrats can be so innocent in this issue.
How about this. In 2005? the democrats were screaming for an immediate pullout, demanding the Republicans allow a vote to take place. So they did. You know what happened? At least half the Democrats voted in support of the war. All talk and no action.

I hope you see why I about puke when I hear most democrats talk about Iraq. The truth is is that the democratic party, at large, wants Americans to die & wants us to loose the war just to beat up Bush and the Republicans and regain power. I know that sounds harsh but thats reality. They have no plan they just criticize.

Just for the record, I'm not American, and what I said had nothing to do with what you posted. I don't know if you were adressing me. But I'll point out all I said was IRAQ was NOT connected to 9/11. HOWEVER, 1/3rd of American continue to believe that, which is FACTUALY WRONG. And that is call "cognitive dissonace". The rest is opinion and can be dabated for a long time. But Iraq was NOT connected to 9.11, thus 1/3rd of American are completely divorced from reality when they answer in polls that they were connected, or in other polls, that WMD's were found in Iraq.

A lot of Americans also now believe that the Twin Tower destruction was a conspiracy. that to is a nut job thinking, since there's zero strong evidence of such a thing. Let's face it. A lot of poeple are dumb. The key is to not be as dumb as a lot of people. No matter whcih way you "swing", left or right, use common sense, don't reject facts, and don't ever assume your "side" is always right or the other side is always wrong.

I myself don't think that 9/11 was some huge consipiracy. Yes, in hindsight, it might have been prevented but then they would've just pushed for another big attack at some time. What it comes down to is that the US government and politicians are all shady. Our society has seen this over the years, more recently the last few decades. I'm pretty sure the country is split on whether Oswald was the lone gunman in the Kennedy assasination. As time goes on, more and more classified docs are unclassified and they show how messed up our agencies can be. The Kennedy case w/Marilyn Monroe was declassified earlier this year and that stuff is crazy. Bobby Kennedy pretty much had her killed if you read it. He ofcourse had help of her doctor and her in-home nurse, but it's just messed up. So seeing that these politicians and agencies can do all this crooked shit then reading the first post in this thread, yeah, I'm sure you can understand why some Americans could truly believe that it happened and that it could be linked to certain people. What people will do for the all might dollar, it's so messed up and humanity itself has failed.

Yeah, I'm a big snopes fan, especially when my Mom continually sends me virus warnings, amber alerst, etc, etc.Anyone else have that problem with their folks? what makes it even worse is, my Mother will send it not only to me and my wife, but to my Father too (despite the fact he's sitting in the same room she is, she sends it to him anyway), AND THEN he, in turn, sends it back out to me, my wife, AND my Mom again!! I wonder sometimes if I need to take up vodka as a hobby again.



But snopes is good. Im usually suspicious of things like that anyway, especially when they come from the "misinformation highway". I suspect alot more of this crap will be surfacing in the next year, on both sides of the political fence. You know truthfully, I havent seen one person running yet that I thought was worth a damn.

Not directing it at you MoD or anyone in particular. When I see people do drive by mud slinging I just like to point out some reality. Sometimes I get worked up! See what happens when I'm stuck in a motel for 3 nights and can't play COD! LoL!



Your point about the WMD's is good. However, we must remember that Saddan had WMD's and USED them in Iraq on Iraqi's. Death toll: About 200,000 to 300,000 people. The world inteligence communitee agreed that Saddam had WMD's when the coalition forces entered Iraq. Either Saddam did a great job moving or hiding them, or the intelligence was wrong. Most agree it was wrong.

I disagree with the last point. most place didn't think that, that is the great myth that keeps being used as the last defence by right-wing talking heads on TV, but it is not accurate.

Weapons inspectors were combing the country and had gone to 100's of spots on the US made "lists" of where WMD's were and found nothing. They were over half done inspecting every half-suspected site imaginable and were begging to finish their job, and just before the attack gave reports that they were getting good co-operation, as well as concluding the nuclear program was already completely dismantled. (note, unlike how it is portrayed, you can't make weapons grade WMD's and their delivery systems on the back of trucks...you need sophisticated and large manufacturing plants ans storage facilites) This was all correct. Most of the rest of the world were gave that information the respect it deserved, the US and Britian chose to ignore it because it did not mesh with their pre-drawn conclusions that they figured Saddam had at LEAST a little something somwewhere, and they wanted to attack before the summer so they couldn't wait for a WMD or even evidence of a program to be found. Bush and Blair had concluded they were going to war with Iraq, and evidence, or lack of it, wasn't going to stop them.

To this day, Bush continues to repeat "saddam wouldn't let in the inspctors", forgetting he did let them in, inspections were happing for 6 months, the inspectors were begging for more time to finish their work. I actually think Bush has come to believe his own "mis-truths". Still doesn't make it right.

I had bets with people, including my boss, that nothing was going to be found. Largely because I was reading a couple of writers, not left-wing types either, who said nothing was going to be found except for some old mustard gas (btw, chemical and biological weapons degrade, so the point was they'd only find some old relics of useless material). They were actually experts who'd worked in the Middle East, and weren't politically affilated with the left or right. That's why they seemed trustworthy. It wasn't "political theatre" when they were talking. Neither were American either btw, so they could speak more freely. In the US, it became almost treasonous to question the US government line, but even evil men like Saddam and his cohorts can tell the truth sometimes, and even a great country like the US can have leaders who hide the truth or tell great lies.

Of course, all this argument is so old, I don't expect to change any opinions. I'm sure the commentators you listen to tell you different than what I'm saying, and you trust their views more. However, I'm guessing those are right-wing commentators who generally cheerlead the Rupublican party, and on this issue I think their credibility should be questioned severly, inncluding the claim the rest of the world thought he had them. They are fudging the facts.

I'll let others have the last word. Shutting down my old computer and about to plug in my new one now!!

I wonder how Saddam could violate 23 seperate UN rulings if he was complying? That's because he was playing a game. Don't you remeber him throwing them out repeatedly. The last time he barred them from doing inspection was final straw. You and I both know that after all that time he was never going to fully comply, only play us like fools. After Bush threatened to attack, only then did he say ok they can continue. But too late, enough was enough.

I watch the same liberal tv stations and read the same liberal papers you likely do. Like I said before hindsight is 20/20.
I don't recall anyone in the Democratic party questioning the intelligence findings. Democrats that sat in the same Security Council meetings with the President. They heard the same info the Republicans heard. Nobody said nothing until after they couldn't find the WMD's. Only then did it become "the President mislead us", "he's a liar", blah blah blah.

I agree minds are made up. Everyone agree's Saddam was threat to international peace anyway. How many invasions and wholesale slaughers does a dictator have to do get the world commmunity to rise up and stop him.

Remember bad boy Omar Khadaffi from Lybia? Terrorist cuddler and sworn enemy of the USA. After Bush made good on his promise to remove Saddam if he didn't allow the inspections to continue. Omar calls up the UN and says "come and get my WMD's and here's the terrorists you've been wanting. I don't want nothing to do with this shit anymore". Chalk 2 up for Bush, Clinton 0

You'll be paying for the Bush attack on Iraq for 15-20 years or more. If you think that makes the score "2-0 Bush, vs. Clinton", good for you.

BTW, Ghadafi was trying to make ammends for 15 years. It finally cumlminated with Bush, it would have culminated with virtually any American president with half a brain. Luckily, Bush just barely managed to quailify!

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LMAO! Makes one wonder how he managed to defeat the super intelligent democrats........TWICE!

Of course, Osama is just waiting to surrender to a Democratic President! LoL

Probably not. Didn't see him to surrender to a Republican one either though!

Anyhoo, how'd Bush win twice? Well, that's for Americans to decide. I guess the majority was happy. Will he be remembered fondly? Outside America, the answer is definately no, inside America, once again, that is for you to decide!

Anyway, good luck and God Bless whatever contry you're from!

Interesting thought MoD. Let me ask you this, let's say you were going out of town and you needed to leave the keys to your house and your money with someone. You could leave them with the guy at the counter at the local store or your brother-in-law. Which one would you pick?

This is why I don't care much what other countries think of my president. Becase they NEVER EVER EVER EVER have the USA's best interest at heart. And, if an American President would ever decide policies based on what other countries want he/she should be tried for treason. I would only hope my good friends in Canada would do likewise.

If someone is only looking to be liked they should never be a leader. A leader is someone who has a vision and the courage to carry that vision into action regardless of whether they will be liked or not. A great leader is respected not neccasarily liked.

Respect is what a country is looking for. Cow towing to other peoples whims and wishes, never earns respect. For example, Al Queda had no respect for the Clinton administration. Now they have a ton of respect for the Bush administration. The Soviet Union had no respect for Jimmy Carter but a lot of respect for Ronald Reagan. Need I go on?

Class dismissed.

There's only two two countries that have our back.

The U.K. and Canada.

Everyone else can bite me. I couldn't care less what they think of me.

Good point Shred. Least we not forget our great friends the Poles. They have been very supportive, although resources are somewhat slim.
Poland knows just what it is like to live in fear and oppresion. Poland has handled some of the toughest spots in Iraq. God bless the Poles.