I say we either bring back shotgun for this map or add the ppsh to the germans weapons.95% of the time the Russians own in this map cause of the ppsh.

I would rather not eliminate the PPSH but I think allowing the Germans to have Shotguns would be an excellent balancing approach.

Druid, can you allow weapons only for a specific map? I would rather only allow the small clip ppsh than bring back the shottie. Or maybe small clip and shottie to balance.

I would rather just take this map out of the rotation. The Russians abuse it way too much

Shotguns are so easy to use, and sence it's all close range, i think the Germans would all have shotties and dominate the russians, something new... lol, i pwn like crazy with the Shotgun not even trying...

why dont you just pick up a ppsh when your german?

each side gets at least Two (2) automatic weapons....shit, the british get 4!! If you eliminate the ppsh, the russians only have the ppss42. I say eliminate the the mp44 and the american weapons for the british, and the grease gun for the americans


the 44 dominates on all the maps, with the exception of the russian maps, in which the ppsh excels. In UO, the germans typically dominate most maps. in COD2, the germans typically dominate most maps, except for the russian maps...i say let the russians have the PPSH....its an existing weapon, not like the MOHAA style shottie.

i want the ppsh back, and if the 44 goes then i go and i aint playing in yall server, no offense but i mean the mp40 is shit so the only real auto the krouts get is the 44, the rifles just take talent, and the ppsh42 SUCKS i say bring it back to the way it was

IM NOT BITCHING! JUST ADDING MY IMPUT

I really HATE the PPSH but I am gonna have to agrea with Lead on this one. There will always be advantages with certain guns on certain maps. I say put it back and take out Lenningrad.

Thanks for trying it out though.

Is there no way to have an equal weapons mod like in MOHAA?

same as uo ppsh up close is awesome but when you try to hit someone far away 50/50.the maps are to small! cod2 is too small! hope the 2 new maps are bigger?!

You guys may get pwned by MP44 but i don't usually have a problem. I had above a 2 ratio score on German Leningrad so it depends what kinda playa u are i guess...

One thing more to consider is that we all need some practice with the shotgun. It was painfully obvious during some of our recent COD2 scrims that we don't use that weapon well. I think part of the problem is that we don't have the shotgun on any of public COD2 server maps. That's why I thought it would be a good idea to add it to the maps with the PPSH as well as being an equalizer for the Germans.

Let's face it, some of us are better with different weapons and maps. I'm not sure that eliminating a legitimate weapon is the answer. If there will be TWL matches that allow the PPSH then I strongly recommend that we put it back in at least one map. If not, then I'm fine with leaving it out even though it was the one weapon that kicked up the adrenaline for the Old Man.

We can definately go back to all the weapons. Like I said earlier, I don't know if it's possible to allow weapons only on certain maps, that's something Druid would have to do.
As for allowing weapons just to get used to them for matches, I think that's what the practice server is for, and that we need to start using it.
When we were a MOHAA clan, MOB's wildly popular server, "Goodfellas" did not use stock settings. It ran Druid's popular mod which evened out all the weapons, so it didn't matter if you were axis or allies, the weapons were balanced. This did not effect the awesome power of MOB in the ladders, as they practiced using the stock weapons in the practice server for matches.
My reason for getting rid of the smoke, the shotgun and recently the 71 round ppsh (while leaving the 20 something round ppsh) was only to try to make the server a little more fun for the average person coming in to the server. I didn't get rid of anything just cuz I didn't like it. So, if we want to allow all the weapons, that's fine.

I am a bit worried in case that we put back the shotgun and then all the very good clans wont come back .
Lets don't forget that is one of the reason that they are playing on our server( no shotguns and no smoke),plus in matches only one player is allowed to use a shotgun .

True Shad. and once you put it back, the normal noobs will all be using to celebrate...

i like the pssh it is good but i also like the shotties on the other people