i have to vent this out ! I have a good friend whos unit was the first to hit ramadi in the begining of this tour of iraq and happend to be the worst fire fight (i believe)within the conflict. they had recorded alot of the fight and sent me a disk which ive posted a few of the videos (that werent too graphic)here a while back.he was quickly premoted and decorated and he reupped as soon as his tour was up.when you do that you have to take leave in the states which he was posted in colorado and a month ago back here in south florida ,to return to iraq in two weeks. the problem is he started hearing voices ,not being able to sleep ,talking to people (like in war) and having major episodes.im good freinds with his mother and there was a mishap she will not talk about but long story short ,he has to searched for weapons before coming in the house.they took him to the doctor and he said it was pdsd. the other 17 guys he came back with are all suffering the same and all are going back in two weeks.

although hes lucky because his mother knows some higher ups and was able to get in contact with our senator and get him time before he has to return (extra month) i ask what about the other 17. these kids are going to be fucked up for life and when introduced back into that enviroment ,will get some of our own killed including themselves.how could they diagnose them with pdsd and still say who cares ,were short send them back! i think this a fucked up situation.i actually had a guy inmy bar last night who said "thats what we pay them for"and i nearly broke the bottle over his head.wondering what opinions everyone else has?

Undead 1,First off I'd like to thank your good friend for his service to our great country.He deserves a hell of alot more than just a simple thanks..I agonize each day when i read the paper or see the news.Every day we lose 4, 5,or 10 of our young people.The families of these kids will suffer the loss of thier loved ones forever.But trust me my friend they are not alone,atleast here at my home we weep for them each day..No Bull..

As for your good buddy why in gods name did he reup.?Did he comit him self for another 5 years.I cant for the life of me believe the military nowing full well how much he is suffering would put him into active duty back in that hell hole.I would hope the military would say he as well as the others are not fit and say" they would put not only themselves at risk but others as well".

I guess his answer would be i never left.And in his mind wants to be there for his fellow GIs.

My answer I DONT LIKE IT.

I wish the best for him and stay safe.AND PLEASE come home to us all soon....

Mechanic.

he reupped while still in iraq and i guess you have to take a mandatory leave,there where 17 others.its def not a fact he doesnt want to fight,he wants to go back.his mother HAD to step in ,because hes fucked up.they were going to send him back even though he was diagnosed.the other 17, i believe, are going back .

I've always thought this type of issue was idiotic. Our government doesn't take care of our own like we did after WWII and Korea. When Vietnam rolled around, it was ship them there and if they survive... oh well. I've heard that 30% of the US homeless population are military veterans. It just pisses me off when our government keeps cutting Vet benefits and medications to put money elsewhere. These guys did their parts... now the govt. needs to uphold it's own and take care of these guys. I appreciate the fact that your buddy is serving and I hope he and all the guys get the help they need while they are over there or when they get back.

I was reading a recent article on Army CSC teams [Combat Stress Control]. These are mobile mental heallth groups deployed in hostile areas. Although they assist hugely in straightening out wrecked nerves [if possible], its sad to see the few cases they are missing/not dealing with properly. I hope they get back period and given priority treatment if needed and not 'allowed' to go back if some disorders have developed from a prior tour - which must be tough to determine; how many cases in WW2 were there of injured soldiers 'escaping' from hospital if possible just to join their Front Line buddies ASAP! - not just a few....



nah...don't get arrested. Just calmly tell him. "You don't have a clue, do you?- I wonder how people like you make it through the day." Or some other comment mocking his shoe-size IQ.

nah...don't get arrested. Just calmly tell him. "You don't have a clue, do you?- I wonder how people like you make it through the day." Or some other comment mocking his shoe-size IQ.
[/quote]LOL,DONT WORRYILL REMAIN COOL! seriously nothing ever gets done till someone ges killed!

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nah...don't get arrested. Just calmly tell him. "You don't have a clue, do you?- I wonder how people like you make it through the day." Or some other comment mocking his shoe-size IQ.
[/quote]LOL,DONT WORRYILL REMAIN COOL! seriously nothing ever gets done till someone ges killed!
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Dude my heart is with you man. We brought home two more fallen the other night. I was at work when the CC150 landed, man the base stood still and you can feel the sorrow. We here in Canada are dealing with PTSD as well and I will tell you it is dang hard to pin down. And as far as the goverments they are all the same. About the only difference as far as I am concerned is we don't have the same acceptable loss ratio from our DND (DOD). I will pray for your boys as I pray for ours.

Lyonhart