guys i called Infinity ward and was told the forrum was well moderated and the fans were listened to. lol i dont know if this is true or they were just brushing me off but this is probably the closest shot at encouraging them to have base assualt in COD4. I know most of us dont want another COD2 we all want base assualt maybe if we make it the most active topic in there it might help influence them to put it in there, or if its too late for them to include it they may consider to put base assualt in an expansion pack. I posted in the forrum its on its way to 1 of the most active responded post (its not that big of a forrum).

I dont really care about arguing with the people who disagree with me in that forrum I just want it to be active so that the designers would atleast consider it before they finish.

Again guys this is not a fan forrum its the programers and designers for COD4 this may be r last chance influence these guys to have a new current base assualt, dont let it die with us.......nnnooooooooooooo............freedooooooommmmmmmmmm. lol just kidding.

seriously if u like base assualt post it in the designers forrum thanks later guys.


heres the link......


http://www.infinityward.com/community/forum/index.php/board,25.0.html

laters guys

You certainly stirred up some debate. Regardless, I'm going through the registration process and will post a simple "Please include BAS in COD4" plea.



Thanks for your efforts zblimp!

Biggest problem is that COD4 is going to be Modern weapons. Not WWII

agree.

BOYCOTT COD4

This is my opinion, from a business prospective. The money is not in BA. The money is in FPS without vehicles. I have been watching the front page on Xfire the past few days, making note of the games with the most minutes played. The top FPS's have been COD2 usually around 3M+ minutes played, Counter-Strike: Source which usually has over 2M+ minutes played, and BF2 with around 1M+ minutes played. I have not even seen UO on there in the past few days. Even the original COD has been on there the past few days, albeit with only around 400K minutes played. Now, Xfire is not going to be the best way to gather statistics, but I figure it's a pretty good representation of what most people like to play.

I also loaded up UO and took a look at the servers. BA was not overly popular, and had about the same number of players as TDM, CTF, and SnD. That is not very big incentive for a game developer to make a game with that game type. I understand that not as many people play the game anymore, but if BA was in really such a demand, you wouldn't have 7000+ COD2 servers, and a lot more than 1200 UO servers, where most are empty.

This is the question I pose to all the people who want BA. Why risk losing a lot of players to games like Counter-Strike (or just not even buying COD4) because of vehicles/BA? If anything, they need to pander more to the CS crowd. Most FPS players don't care if it's WWII, I, or if they are a caveman fighting with a club, if the game play is awesome, they will play it.

i do ,i left a ww2 mp to play another ww2 mp. i played fear and a couple others but wasnt the same imo . im now hesitant on wasting my money . pb is another issue,if it doesnt have it -i wont buy it. also -



no arguement here for fps vs base assault , the two work together well . uo will be here for a long time blk . ax and certain other clans are still making b/a maps and the sniper server i go to (dm) have a new 2 t 3 maps every 2 weeks (wish after hours didnt quit uo so soon) . the europe base assault servers ,where you usually find me in the morning , are full all day/night long , no mods either -stocks . so while cod4 tries their modern weapons fling alot of us will be playing base assault and trying the new moh a. hopefully here.

I think it's a lot of people in this clan who support your opinion. Me, well I like modern weapons. In fact I wish there could be modern tanks as well(Leo 2, Abrams, Challenger...) and some fancy vehicles (NOT the turnip truck... ). The game itself is still the same - with bases to crack and people to kill. If it's realism you want - well there's a lot of holes in COD:UO which is not realism. I don't mind though, it's a fun game anyway. In fact I like Barbarossa a lot because of the "alternative" tanks compared to stock maps. An even nicer edge would be be modern tanks. (If you have a Ferrari you don't miss the Skoda)

I understand that their full all the time, but that doesn't change the fact that there a whole lot more people playing games like Counter-Strike and COD2, which don't have vehicles. That is what I was trying to get at, IW will make more money with a game more akin to those two. They are a company that is out to make money, and right now it seems more people are interested in playing FPS games without vehicles. Some people may say, "Well look at all the people who want BA and vehicles!" That may be true, but those are the people with the problem, and so they are naturally going to be more vocal.

What is so hard to understand about offering the CHOICE? Have a BA option with vehicles! Have TDM options with and without vehicles. Have S&D without vehicles. In other words, have it all!

I can't for the life of me understand people who say "no, screw that, don't put in vehicles" when the fact is you can then configure the game however you wish. Talk about not respecting other people's wishes or seeing it from their perspective! Some people here and on that forum are arguing there not even be a BA option for those who like it, even though there is nothing to prevent TDM and S&D option just like COD/UO had! Geez, open up your minds people! How about supporting a game that tries to please many fans, brodening it's appeal? Why is it so difficult to undersatand that is not only good public relations, it is good business.

I agree with you on that. Something I meant to add to the post at the end was that as long as it has the option to turn the vehicles off and the game play is awesome, it can have whatever vehicles ya'll want. You do understand what it takes to write a game though, right? You do know they can't just say, hey these 10% of people want some vehicles, lets take five minutes and add them. It takes work, and they have to justify whether or not that extra work is worth it.

Again, they are out to make money. If they are after the guys who play CS and COD2, then I really doubt they are going to spend the time to add vehicles. If they want to get the BF2, UO, COD2, and CS guys, then they are going to take the time to add vehicles, and have the option to turn them off.

What I like about COD/UO is the simplicity of the vehicles. I play some BF2, but man, you don't just jump in a helicopter and fly and figure it out in 10 minutes. And some people get so crazy good at flying, they become near invincible. I see guys doing 360 flips with helicopters!

COD:UO kept the gameplay simple yet fun when it came to vehicles. And it was balanced. One super talented tank driver is still far from near invincible. Then stack in the challenge of the BA mode, and you have the game that keeps me coming back and waiting for more!

Frankly, enough time has passed I think I figured it all out. Infinity Ward didn't develop UO, and even though UO introduced features many people liked, like sprinting, cooking gernades, new guns, plus the BA mode, IW refuses to take these good ideas and intergrate them into newer games because their are too stubborn. They are small minded people who refuse to think anyone has good ideas aside from them.

It even explains why they changed the game to modern warfare without any input from fans. In fact, they tried very hard to HIDE this fact. They didn't want to deal with the fanbase telling them it was a bad idea. Nope, Infinity Ward is smarter than anyone else. All those thing we like, we want, mean nothing to them.

Their website won't listen to one suggestion they didn't have themselves to start. Saying they care about input was and is a joke. Just a ruse to make us think they listen. They don't.

well said mod , even though the base assault post has more posts than any other on their forums , a world wide response .

ea has always been smarter,back in the day they had moh (no tanks etc..) and bf42 (all vehicles)at the same time . i thought cod was ok but uo was awesome and got me hooked.

Ya guys thanks for the post. I mean Im a true fan of base assualt there really is no other gametype like it out there. There is so much dimension to base assualt though u can be in a tank u can snipe u can guarilla fight tanks in town u have to decap a base and then plant a bomb and cover it. it just seems so much more interesting and fun than capture the flag or tdm. I mean when cod uo came out I thought it was an evoulution in call of duty and multyplayer games. I thought all the others would build around it. It kind of seems all theyve been doing though is taking a step backwards except for the graphics. Ever since cod2 came out I was let down and hoping they would just put all the stuff left out from UO in an expansion for COD2 but seemed like they just went for a quick buck and jumped to the consoles. I really respect the half life and total war designers they try the best they can to listen to theyre fans and incorporate theyre concerns as much they can before they put out theyre product.

I think theyre going to putt vehicles in cod4 either from the start or in an expansion becuase it looks like theyre going directly up against battlefield 2. I dont think it would really have to be a big project to have base assualt all they would have to do is take a few maps from tdm and add 6 bombs in a basement with a cover to destroy and thats basically it. So it basically comes down to do they care to listen to incorporate something an entire community of fans r asking for that call of duty invented in the first place.

Well the thread right now is the most active and responded to in the cod4 section, if they moderate or check out theyr own forum they know what we r asking. Well the balls in theyre court we will see whats more important to them and what direction they r taking this product and what kind of company they are. I still have some hope left for COD4 but we will see.

Hey that Frontline fuel of war looks pretty promising ;D check out the second movie on this link



http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/frontlin...updates;title;3

If you look at what UO was, it was about base assault.

UO introduced tank and vehicle play, that lends itself to base assault primarily (not sd, not ctf, not tdm). Activision sold a hell of allot of UO based on the vehicles. (I mean people weren't buying UO for sprint and smoke grenades).

If money is your arguement, the question is whether COD 4 will be available on PC, not whether COD 4 should have BA.

Thanks for the heads up zblimp!