I made a one line suggestion in another thread about combining the Tuchola server and Barb into one in another thread, since Tuchola has had a little luck getting people one lately. Several people seemed to like the idea, so figured it needed its own thread. Perhaps the two maps together would give the fans of both those maps with "classic" weapons a chance to play again. Personally, not a big Tuchola fan, but I could be tempted to give it an occasional go if it'd revive classic Barb again as well. Could mean some members who don't often chat get to meet each other as well.

Anyone else agree it's a good idea? I mean, the old Barb server has been almost completely dead for two months now. Tuchola has only been a little better. This might help both.

I AGREE

Tuchola is sacred.
Some people play only that map.

I would agree with keeping the Tuchola only server while rotating Tuchola on the Barb server.

Might even be cool to do a Broadsword / Tuchola / Barb rotation.

The forest is dead. That was the only place Jack and I played. After a while we kept having to sit in spec trying to get people to join in and play. It got to be were we got tired of waiting. I think you might try rotating it and barb on both servers but open the map change option up for people to choose what they want to play. With both servers rotating forest and barb, people might be attracted too it. But that is just my opinion. Doesn't matter much anymore.

I agree...this might be an interesting combo. As I recall the main complaints with Broadsword and Barb were that they got old game after game. I'm also not a big fan of the forest but in a rotation...who knows.



-Pain

I for one vote that putting Barb and Broadsword into a rotation with Forest would be cool.

Broadsword / Tuchola / Barbarossa.

How badass is that?

I agree with MoD. I am not big Tuchola fan myself, but this seems like a compromise that might work. Both Barb and Tuchola has their hard core fans so maybe this can kickstart the server? I don't know about Broadsword. First of all there's big lag problems with the map, and the map hasn't any hard core fans. We tried this map for a couple of months and it just died - no interess. It never was a hit

When we had a Broadsword ONLY server ,it was active for 3-4 months ,then just died .....Also putting 3 of the Largest maps on 1 server might cause loading and or lag problems ,especailly with the mod packs that go with them.

Just so you guys know, I'm watching this topic carefully, so if there's a clear winner, I can make it happen overnight. Personally, I don't have a dog in this fight, so it's really what the loyal standard-weapons BAS players want.

I might as well chime in and put my 1/4 of a cent in, LOL. I agree with Shred, Please don't mess with Tuchola, I could see a Barb/TF rotation an active server though. But I have never seen this broadsword map. Is it cool? Many months since you ran I guess, I think a Barb/Broadsword rotation would lure. It would lure me since I've never been there.

Just have to love the forest. And we all love playing in there for hours. Yuppers!

OK! my 1/8 cent. Do what you want with rotations, but would very much like the Forest to stay as is.

Someone ask me the other night about putting mw on the Forest and I said I don't think it can be done.

The Forest is not really dead, we have the AWOL in almost everynight and now more is starting to come in again.

I for one did liked the Boardsword, yes I know it was a big map, But it still was neat with the cable car and the ropes to climb up to the castle and finding ways to get onto the roofs. And yes I miss it but that was in the past. Now we have to look to the future.

Yupper's keep the Forest the way it is. Our own ScrappyBob made it. Remember?

Ci.Ci.

I am a touch puzzled about those who want to keep Tuchula "as it is". Isn't that usually empty? The server usage for the month put it at 1/10th as busy as our MW servers, which suggests to me that it's empty much of the time. The theory is if we rotate, you'll get more action for both maps, even if there are those who'll jump on for one maps and exit afterwards.

If that's the majority opinion though, I guess that is the way it is. I really don't think it would work to have a Tuchola/Barb rotation on one server, and Tuchola 24/7 on another. That'd just split whatever Tuchola crowd there is, which would probably do more harm than good.

Gotta agree with MoD here. i think that a Barb and TF rotation would be very good, bring a mix of crowds and revitalize a server. Keep it standard weapons of course.



What I'm a bit curious about is will both Barb and TF 24/7 be taken down and then have 1 server emerge from their ashes? Personally, that makes sense to me as you guys then gain some more room in the server box (excuse me if I'm wrong about server box, etc) for when the new games come out.

Tuchola had a slow summer but its getting back to normal. We should leave it as is.

MWBAS Barbarossa is very successfull. We should probably not mess with it. Keep the Dragunov

Barbarossa is legendary, but noone is playing it. It probably wouldn't hurt to put two more maps in the rotation. Shorten the rounds maybe.

We are spread very thin. We don't have enough players to keep every server hopping. Maybe we are focusing too much on Base Assault. I think the BAS crowd is getting smaller as time goes on.

The BAS crowd is just as strong as ever, just playing different servers. And there's nothing wrong with sharing Tuchola with other maps. Too many rounds of the same map makes Jack a dull boy (sorry Jack...nothing personal, lol). Even Barb got tired after 3 rounds. Needs a mixup.

Broadsword was a great map, just needed a lot more players to keep it interesting. Something like 10 on each side so there's some action between spawn and the bases.



If the Tuchola prima donnas don't want to share their map that's fine but at least put Barb and Broadsword together.

Btw, the ONLY way you're going to get more of us to play the Forest is to put it with something that the rest of us play thereby forcing us into it.

I do agree with leaving the MW mod off though. I think the only map that would support MW gameplay because of it's size would be Broadsword. Be nice to make it from spawn to base in less than 10 minutes,lol.



-Pain

Barb and Tuchola are both classic maps, Broadsword KILLED my machine and i don't think i'm the only one. Classic Barb and Tuch would be a great combo in my opinion as well.

Okay. At tomorrow morning's server reboot, the standard weapons Barb server will run Barb and Tuchola.

I still want to see this broadsword map. Do other servers run it? I don't play/check other servers, I'm a MOB freak! It really killed your PC Shaz! Must be a huge map!

Ace, i guess i should be more accurate. The map was sooo big that i couldn't play, the lag was incredible!!!!! Got only slightly better when i played at home(much faster machine at home). The few times i played with only moderate lag issues it was fun though.

I like Broadsword and I love Barb. I really dont like Tuchola at all.

I think since the old school weapons servers are sort of dead, people should announce ahead of time that they would play, so other loyalists to the classics will know and perhaps we might get enought people to play there... at least once a week... If anyone thinks this a good ide someone should start a thread and all the notices of people willing to play will be posted...

As such I say that on saturday from 6 pm to 8pm(eastern time) I will be at barbarossa... if anybody comes I'll play, if no one comes I'll jsut patiantly do my homework...

Well, I think the mix of Tuchola Forest and Barb isn't working so well and I'll tell ya what my thoughts are. With 2 separate Tuchola servers, the regular forest players won't go to the mix because they don't have to. Nothing wrong with that, it's just the way it is. Kinda like if there were 2 Barb servers and one was a mix I wouldn't go to the mix either because I wouldn't enjoy the Tuchola rotation. But if there was only the mix server, it might work better as I wouldn't mind a round of forest if I didn't have to do it twice in a row, just like the forest players might not mind a round of Barb if it didn't go over and over?

Anyone's thoughts on this?



-Pain

Sir Ace try CuF servers i think they might have it...

Well yeah. That's what I said. There's no way it was going to work with Tuchola still going. Basically, Old Barb is dead, Tuchola on life support. But since Tuchola gets going occasionally lately, a few Barb regs might enter knowing Barb's next, and then the Tuch regs would stay on for the Barb session too because the server gets rolling. That's the hope. One busier server, and a freed up server box for any other ideas.

why not just run one classic weapons server Tuc,barb,an a stock like Foy an every third game change the stock map.Cause it seems like all 3 are hurting right now. I for one would play any classic weapons map aslong as there some people.I dont think there is enough people still playing the classic to fill up 3 anymore.

That's an interesting idea as well.

Us"Prima Donnas" wouldn't mind having the Barb and BS along with Tuchola Forest . All three together on one server would do the trick.

So Steel, if you could do it that way would be just fine. And I think all will agree with it.

Ci.Ci...................

What Ci.Ci. said.



-Pain

I agree with both Landser and ci.ci on this one. However Cross mention potential lag issues with the rotation of such large maps... Don't know if there would be, but that's one thing that needs to be considered.

Still don't know if the TF, BS, and Barb rotation would do the trick. But who knows till it's tried out.



Maybe if Flashgirl starts playing BAS! LOL

OK! if you don't think Boardsword would work along side of Tuchola and Barb, then drop BS and add the Stock instead in rotation. There isn't very much action on Stock as well.



You are still going to get some lag where ever you go.

I didn't have very much lag on BS. just once in a while,but nothing major.



Does anyone else have an opinion on this issues.

Combiding all three, I think would be the easiest and interesting avenue to go down.

It can't hurt to try it for awhile and see what happens. who know's it might just be fun.



Ci.Ci.

I kind of liked Broadsword, but it never really had a following. I think I'd try just the Tuch and Barb rotation to start, and add to it later if it seems to go well. I remember a server I used to play (run by FK or FKR...something like that), had Barb and Smolensk in rotation for CTF, and then they slowly added more maps and the server stayed quite successful. But the idea is keep it simple to start.

Call it the "classic weapons" server.

At this point you got nothing to lose. You got three servers 1st is dead(Barb)2nd is on life surport (Stock) 3nd intensive care (Tuc) You would think all the people complaining how dead there favorite servers would put up with a map or two they dont like.So they can play with the best base players around MOB\REGS an friends.

When I put up the Broadsword server awhile back, it got played for about a week, then died. If you search for Broadsword here in the forums, you'll see that guys reported everything from too much lag to it crashing their game.

I'll stick Broadsword into the Barb-Tuch rotation if you'd like to try it, no big deal.

But I don't want to change the name of the server unless we keep it, because it means changing all of the setup in the stats, the webpage that points to the stats page, and the server-control webpage.

Never any love for Smolensk... that map was wicked fun back in the day.

IMO Barb/TF/Foy would be great map rotation. A large, medium & small map on the same server using classic weapons. Something for everyone.



Peace



JJ

PLEASE NOT FOY!!! Smolensk, Rhine Valley, Kursk, Vitebsk(spelling?). anything but FOY.

Put it on MW BA as well instead of Italy!

Nooo, keep Italy!! !

Here's a suggestion for some of you. I think you'll like the CuF Large Base Assault Server...63.209.36.115

Map rotation:
uo_smolensk
ex_nihilo_uk
uo_frontline
uo_ardennes1944
uo_barbarossa
uo_vitebsk_final
uo_tuchola_b3
wesel
broadsword

Been playing there for a few weeks. Good stuff.

How about

Barb

TF

Foy2

Kharkov

I'd go with Foy 2 as well- but remove the 88s
I'd also think just 2 or 3 maps at most in rotation is best -in order to build up a base of regulars -how about tdm?
It seems growth would dictate a wild new idea is needed to bring in a new surge of fighters to the servers lacking any interest. ....hmmm, maybe a rifles-only / sniper trial too....