Johnzillah
02/08/04 9:28pm
Im seeing every time Missionary gets updated the amount of lag gets worse. It use to be when you were verified the lag went away. Now it seems to never go away. Anybody else having this problem.
Zillah
"Lag" seems to increase when we have Missionary mandatory times, there is a constant stream of players loading & being kicked during mandatory sessions.
To me it just seems that the more updates that are made the worse the gameplay gets.
little old man
02/08/04 11:49pm
Uploaded to the latest version today .165 and slowed my whole computer down to the point where I had to turn off the power to get it back to normal.Went back to .040 again .I may never up date again. You know we all don't like cheating but this is really becoming annoying.First the Mohaa exe fails then open GL Fails the more it tries to be fixed the more that goes wrong. I believe we are now beyond the point of turn off your anti-virus.Some of you guys don't have a problem and that is great ,but i think a lot of people are.
I would have to agree with LOM on this, version 151.155 - 151.165 ran horrible for me.
If anyone wants to rollback to version 151.140 you can download a copy here
http://69.56.164.122/Missionarysetup151140.exeFor those who are experiencing lots of lag with the newer copy, I highly recommend using the older version.
Busta Nut
02/09/04 6:07am
What's the point of all the updates then? Will it come to a point where not updating would keep us from connecting? Will we ever get an error that says "Not using most current version, please upgrade"? What exactly have they been updating (features and what not)?
I set what the oldest version number is that can connect.
Right now it's set at 151130, I probably won't change it for a while.
Like Johnzillah, I've been getting frequent LAG SPIKES during gameplay. The missionary version on my computer is ...... .30
Looks like I spoke to soon, the newest update took care of my lag problems.
Please update to 175 and post back if your still having problems
Yeah the latest update 175 seemed to fix the lag that I was experiencing yesterday.
little old man
02/09/04 4:00pm
Well up graded to 175 again had to turn my machine off to get control back mouse just would not respond right.When I ran .175 got Mohaa exe fail [SIZE=14]Again[SIZE=1].Thanks Druid for 140 it was the last version that worked for me and now I have a copy .Mayhem if you read this Thank You for you help. I know Missionary is really trying to help but I say again it seems to be causing a lot of problems .I am just one of many . I know we post during the game where to get help but I'm willing to bet only a small percent try to work it out the others say to hell with it and move on.
Johnzillah
02/09/04 6:15pm
Just got the new one and it does seem to work better.
Zillah
***crafty***
02/09/04 7:27pm
The new one works great. At first the lag was still there but the more i played it seemed as once again it just needed to be broken in.
realdeal
02/10/04 12:31am
| QUOTE (little old man @ Feb 9 2004, 04:00 PM) |
| Well up graded to 175 again had to turn my machine off to get control back mouse just would not respond right.When I ran .175 got Mohaa exe fail [SIZE=14]Again[SIZE=1].Thanks Druid for 140 it was the last version that worked for me and now I have a copy .Mayhem if you read this Thank You for you help. I know Missionary is really trying to help but I say again it seems to be causing a lot of problems .I am just one of many . I know we post during the game where to get help but I'm willing to bet only a small percent try to work it out the others say to hell with it and move on. |
In my opinion, the PROS far outweigh the CONS.
I upgraded last night, and still experienced a number of major lag spikes.
There's still room for improvement.
Honestly, yeah the lag sucks...big time. But it's the same thing I told another person who was saying Missionary sucks & blah blah blah, it's better to do something proactive about the rampant cheating than nothing at all. I mean really all of us complain about the cheating, than a program comes out that takes care of that problem; & then we complain about the program, is it perfect...no. However it's better than nothing.
Col. Mustard
02/10/04 11:57am
Its simple human nature: Once a person can no longer complain about something, they find something else to complain about
Everyone agreed we need an anti cheat program & currently Missionary is the best solution, we need to support the Missionary effort & try to report issues & suggest fixes without complaining, take the attitude of a program beta tester & report detailed issues & system specs need to be posted on every complaint!!!
I have had problems & understand the frustrations, so far it looks like Bart is working very hard to make improvements & fix bugs as they pop up so we need to be patient (yesterday 2 updates were released).
Its even more frustrating jumping onto the server when I find time away from my infant son to find a server being ruined by 13 year old n00b hackers.
little old man
02/10/04 3:32pm
It all frustration I say I will never up date but you know I will because I want it to work to.However I am luckier then some .I have older a version that I know works and fall back on.The last two up dates yesterday that Bart put out not only didn't work but somehow effected my whole computer to were I had to turn it off to re-boot it.Now you take a new player on our servers likes the server and tries to install Missionary and has the same problems that I had.He has no other version to fall back on so. He tell himself to hell with this program if its not going to work and screw up my machine I may want to go somewhere else.Maybe we should have a few different versions to download just if that happens.
I have a download link for 151140 on the forum and the download page.
I agree with LOM. Although I really did need to put the game away and focus on school, this whole Missionary business contributed to my break. I've been awol for over a month now but as I frequent the boards I notice almost everyday people are still having problems. Real yes the pros do outweigh the cons once you're into the game for most regulars. But as LOM pointed out, we lose support for Missionary every time someone new, wether a noob or not, tries using the program and fails. And this
isn't skin deep either. We don't just lose the people from the server to make it worthwhile for MOB to shell out money for its operation. Bad publicity about the program seeps out. Last weekend I played some games at a friends house on some bs server. Not a single person over the course of two hours had even heard of the program albeit one player who had
heard it sucked. I told him it was in the best interest of the mohaa community to support and he blew me off. Just some food for thought...fuck cheaters.
Johnzillah
02/11/04 7:03am
The newest update changed something in the program.. I noticed it logs a number. The lag sure did stop for me somewhat than the previous updtate. I ran the game the other day without Missionary and it seemed to play the same. Whatever Bart did, its far better that previous versions.
Zillah
| QUOTE (Blakjak @ Feb 10 2004, 07:29 PM) |
I've been awol for over a month now but as I frequent the boards I notice almost everyday people are still having problems. Real yes the pros do outweigh the cons once you're into the game for most regulars. But as LOM pointed out, we lose support for Missionary every time someone new, wether a noob or not, tries using the program and fails. And this isn't skin deep either. We don't just lose the people from the server to make it worthwhile for MOB to shell out money for its operation. Bad publicity about the program seeps out. Last weekend I played some games at a friends house on some bs server. Not a single person over the course of two hours had even heard of the program albeit one player who had heard it sucked. I told him it was in the best interest of the mohaa community to support and he blew me off. Just some food for thought...fuck cheaters. |
Although it's true some people still have a problem with missionary. I've received 2 emails for every post on here about missionary problems. From the emails, I can tell you the number one reason people have problems is they don't take 30 seconds and read the missionary help file. The majority of people who ran into problems, did so because they didn't exclude missionary from their anti-virus.
The second most common complaint is lag. I'm the 1st person to agree there have been some lag issues with missionary, 3 of the recent versions made the game unplayable for me. Since I'm the one running the server, I have a different perspective when it comes to someone complaining about lag. Think about it this way, before missionary how many people every day would say they were laggy? I still see people on the the server everyday without missionary saying the server is laggy. Only two things can cause lag server side, CPU choke or a network problem at the box. If it was either one of these problems, the lag would effect everyone and not just a single player. 99% of the time it's a problem along their network route to the server. From my experience, any lag related to missionary is VERY noticeable because unlike network lag it stays constant. I would be willing to bet half of the people who complain about missionary being laggy are the same ones who complained about lag without it. I've no doubt when some people experience random lag they jump to the conclusion missionary is cause. When the truth is they experienced random lag long before missionary was around.
Druid I understand man and I totally agree; I hope you didnt take what I said the wrong way? Whenever I pick the game back up I'll support it without a doubt. BTW my ping was always great before Missionary and was never exceptionally bad, as it seems it can be of late, when I was running Missionary. Trudge on guys.
xl-FLAME-lx
02/15/04 11:58pm
Personally...I am trying hard for my missionary to work but I get hung up on 4.1... im in a different prob and can't even start it but still i agree that a lot of people like myself are getting really P.O.ed at this program and i am ready to just about give up...
Sorry, but this is makin me mad
Flame
Flame I sent you a private message last week about your problem.
If you're getting stuck at 4.1, you will need to contack Blackbart before you can use missioanry.
You can email him at
Blackbart@Invisiblewarriors.com
Let him know you are locked out of missioanry and he'll tell you what to do.
xl-FLAME-lx
02/16/04 11:47am
Druid,
Thanks for being so helpful with me man

, I really appreciate it

. BTW i sent my info in to be that one sites forum person also...Gonna wait 24 hrs to become a member and hopefully DSL will be working again lol...
Thx tons man,
Flame
xl-FLAME-lx
02/20/04 9:17pm
Hey Druid,
They never emailed me back =/...what does this mean?...
Thanks again,
Flame
Flame I'm not sure what your asking?
Did you get your copy of missionary unlocked or are you still getting stuck at 4.1?
xl-FLAME-lx
02/22/04 2:57pm
still stuck at 4.1 bro
Email BlackBart@invisilbewarriors.com
Ask him for a link to the unlock file.
You'll need to download the file and run it to unlock missionary.
xl-FLAME-lx
02/22/04 4:44pm
Thanks druid youve been so helpful

i just emailed him and if something goes wrong or something comes up again ill let you know
Thanks again bro,
FLAME
xl-FLAME-lx
02/25/04 8:52pm
still not workin

just sent bart another email will ttyl
Thanks tons druid for all your time with me in this program
Flame
It's very important that you download and run the file he gives you a link to the same day you get it.
The file is only good for one use and it has to be on the same day you get the link.
xl-FLAME-lx
02/26/04 10:32am
WEEEEE ITS WORKING
but its asking me if i want to upgrade my missionary what do i say???
Please tell fast lol
Thanks,
FLAME
xl-FLAME-lx
02/26/04 10:48am

now i got missionary running with the new update but it is telling me that i need to redownload the full version of MOHAA ... do i do this or unistall my mohaa folder or what???
THANKS TONS GUYS

,
FLAME
xl-FLAME-lx
02/26/04 10:52am
AHHH CRAP
it says to dl the full version of missionary again??????????
do i do it or will this disable the unlock thing again??????
AHHH PLZ HELP
xl-FLAME-lx
02/27/04 4:39pm

MISSIONARY IS UP AND RUNNING
Thanks so much guys for all of your help
SEE YOU ON THE BATTLEFIELD,
FLAME
xl-FLAME-lx
02/27/04 7:13pm
Hey guys sorry if this is in the wrong place but i didnt know where to post it lol....
I have liked MOB for a very long time now and have played in the server for a long time but I was wonderin how or if i would even be able to become a MOB member
If someone could plz fill me in wit the info,
Thanks tons bros,
FLAME
Busta Nut
02/27/04 7:56pm
xl-FLAME-lx
02/27/04 8:30pm
Gottcha,
Thx Busta =)
Busta Nut
02/27/04 8:36pm
I'm here to help
Jimmy Conway
02/27/04 9:43pm
If all you guys find Missionary to become more of a hassel then what it's worth then why make it a mandatory thing... it's just becoming inconvinient I mean... First it doesn't work then when it finally does what it's gonna slow my computer down... nevermind that, I mean I love playing in the MOB servers they're like the only servers I go to so I'm guarenteed a fun game. But I mean we're just having endless amounts of problems here... that's just my two sense
realdeal
02/27/04 10:57pm
| QUOTE (Jimmy Conway @ Feb 27 2004, 09:43 PM) |
| If all you guys find Missionary to become more of a hassel then what it's worth then why make it a mandatory thing... it's just becoming inconvinient I mean... First it doesn't work then when it finally does what it's gonna slow my computer down... nevermind that, I mean I love playing in the MOB servers they're like the only servers I go to so I'm guarenteed a fun game. But I mean we're just having endless amounts of problems here... that's just my two sense |
Endless?
You'll never see me say missionary doesn't have issues. I think most people who use it have wanted to put their fist through their monitor atleast once ( I know I have ). Missionary is a work in progress, without people using it now, improvements would be much slower or never happen at all.
Any current missionary problems are far out-weighted by the cheat free gaming it provides. I'm sure some people disagree with me and thats fine, everyone is welcome to their opinion.
Missionary isn't mandatory most of the time but like the server message says, without it expect people to assume you cheat. As we move forward with missionary it will be mandatory more often. At some point, people will either decide to support it or find another server. I'm sure we will probably lose a few good players who do think it's is to much of a hassle. For those players all I can say is when you do find a new server and someone is blatantly hacking, just remember you made the choice to play were cheating is allowed.
realdeal
02/27/04 11:26pm
| QUOTE (Druid @ Feb 27 2004, 11:17 PM) |
You'll never see me say missionary doesn't have issues. I think most people who use it have wanted to put their fist through their monitor atleast once ( I know I have ). Missionary is a work in progress, without people using it now, improvements would be much slower or never happen at all. Any current missionary problems are far out-weighted by the cheat free gaming it provides. I'm sure some people disagree with me and thats fine, everyone is welcome to their opinion. Missionary isn't mandatory most of the time but like the server message says, without it expect people to assume you cheat. As we move forward with missionary it will be mandatory more often. At some point, people will either decide to support it or find another server. I'm sure we will probably lose a few good players who do think it's is to much of a hassle. For those players all I can say is when you do find a new server and someone is blatantly hacking, just remember you made the choice to play were cheating is allowed. |
ahhh... poetry.
xl-FLAME-lx
02/28/04 3:41pm
Hmm....
I just got kicked out of MOB server and it told me missionary was required...although i was using missionary at the time.... any reasons y this might of happened?
Thanks,
FLAME
xl-FLAME-lx
03/16/04 5:08pm
Hey guys on the newest version of Missionary .70 or w/e I have been gettin less lag like A LOT less...but still its like for the first 10 mins or so when im NOT verified yet I have ZERO lag...and then when i get verified the lag kicks in...now i know u work ur asses off for this program...but is there any way to just make it not have to verify us and that would solve the lag problem?
Sorry for the complaint,
FLAME
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