Today after the server went down, when my miss is loading it stops at the number 20... Anybody know why and how to fix it. Also i'd like for yall to have patience on GanGstA_Viejev0X case. Please. Stop asking him for missionary. You know hes having problems. Hes on it. He'll run it ASAP. I see people like your.yeast.infection, Rush, Whacker, Skiba, etc. Playing with no missionary and the regs only ask us for miss. Why is that? I thought we were cool. I hope you now we hate hackers as much as you do. Thanks.

Then why do you guys let baller in your clan?

LMAO!!!!!

thanks bargod, i knew i was good, but not that much:P

agreed. this list is growing large.

Mainly whacker and your.yeast.infection, cuz i think i know who skiba is and rush first time i see him. But Whacker seems like Wall-Hacker doesnt it?

Can anybody help me on the miss subject?

Usually every time I have had a problem with missoinary it all comes back to uninstalling reinstalling mohaa and miss itself, and changing my antivirus to accept it and sometime turning it off.

Also I have specced whacker in the past and he doesn't seem like a hack, same with your yeast infectoin.

no but it is hard to exclude some and keep it secret and then expect eveyone to use missionary that u ask.

Thanks Silver. So viejevox seems like his hacking? Spect any of us. Go ahead.

I'm not sure. Have you tried contacting Blackbart at blackbart@invisiblewarriors.com ?

Got it fixed. Thanks anyways.

It amazes me to see these same posts all over the place, questions routinely answered yet ignored. I have been playing this game since it was in late beta, with Druid's help, I have been able to catch cheaters with some regularity.

Just because somebody kills you with regularity does not mean they are a hack. There are so many variables involved including ping, machine speed, network latency, video card, forced models, etc. that it is just not practical to think you are going to always come out on top of every battle.

The key signs of a hack are always pre-fire but this is not absolute. If you think a guy is pre-firing on you, spec him against other players. If he has a better ping/connection than you, he is probably seeing you a split second before you see him. While spec'ing the player, check to see if he is firing into a lot of barriers, as if he can not tell they are there. Last night I banned a player called 'brownie' from MOB4. He routinely popped out of closets on Stalingrad and fired at people, firing rounds into walls beforehand.

Another way to catch a hack is to camp for a minute or two. Yeah it makes you look like a fool but it is an easy test. If you are camped in a closet waiting for a guy and he rounds the corner firing at you it is possible he is a hack. Again, this is not absolute.

Far too often I seen campers cry foul when good players kill them but let's be realistic. Campers are not good at this game and they never will be. If they had any talent, they would move along with the flow of the map. The game has been out long enough that there are no hiding places that I don't know about and I find it funny that campers think they are smarter than the best players in the game when they themselves can't figure out what the 'w' key does.

Whacker was on MOB4 last night and I thought he was a hack along with a few of you. I spec'd him for a long time and IMO he is just a good player. When faced with a lot of opposing players that were campers, his scores went down considerably. He didn't pre-fire, didn't see anything that I couldn't see, and didn't pop out from behind walls just as someone appeared.

As for Your.Yeast.Infection, personally I think he is a hack but I can't tell for sure. I need another MOB guy to confirm it to ban the guy because we don't want the good players to leave our server.

Skiba of course is not a hack. Everybody within MOB will tell you that. If you doubt the integrity of a MOB guy, then this isn't the server for you and you should probably find somewhere else to play. The money, effort, and time that these guys expel to allow you to play on a cheat free server demands a certain amount of respect and if you can't accept that, then again, this probably isn't the server for you.

Cypher

your.yeast.infection? i never thought just thought he was good. i see him around a lot in other servers. i dont think anyone is a hack cept that pos in the kinda mob server. if shit is more then obvious license .... IMO its kinda like saying everyone in town has to have a license to play here. except this guy. kinda pisses off everyone else. i know he dont cheat, i wouldn't play when he was on if i did. plus i love talking shit to him, its fun. just think it loosens the integrity if the missionary thing. above all i know him and hot pocket pussy is also. just dont think it should be a secret come out and say hey look this is whats up and why, dont do justice to the way of life if no one understands why some thing happens.

Cypher im not saying anyone is a hack here. Maybe they are all good players. Im not that good but im often asked to use missionary to "Keep the integrity of the game" is what ive heard. Im not trying to apply no preasure on no one here. And if i thought this server were always full of hackers i wouldnt be here. You dont have to tell me that is isnt the server for me. I just dont think is fair to ask for missionary on some people and yet not on a chosen few. I think we ALL have to get missionary working and runnin.

I've noticed what hacking is and been recognizing it lately. I see people crying about viejevox skill. Go ahead, Spect him, for a full 2 days. He doesnt hack, but yet his asked to get missionary working even though everybody knows hes having miss problems. So why ask Viejevox, Baller and even myself to get miss working and leave the chosen few get greater scores and not asking for it?. My point is that i dont think its fair. Either we all send a email to bart asking him to help all our miss problems or we all dont run miss. I aint nobody but a user here, but if you wanna be a rightgeous server, its the way to do thinks right (on my opinion).

Notice i said i know who skiba is and it is the only reason why i trust him, but it doesnt mean he shouldnt get miss working. I have much respect and trust for you guys. I've been considering you as friends from some time now. At least most of you, but i dont think its fair.

XtyleZ

Im not confusing the best players to be hackers, from what i see you consider me to be a camper. I dont care man. Whatever. Everybody have their own style of playing, and what i do i learned it playing on your server, so i dont consider it camping, plus i move a lot (at least is what i think). Its your call. I play here because i think you guys are the best and have demostrate it. Maybe its the same tyring old post, but hey, its what i felt like in the moment and it is what i wrote. Sorry if im giving any of you hard times. Sorry.

Sorry i missed this part till now... Have i ever doubted of any of you guys integrity? I dont think so. Not even to Skiba. Cuz like i said i think i know who it is and dont have many doubts. I didnt meant to desrespect NOBODY. Sorry if any of you guys thought i did. Sorry.

He's not a hack, but he's ugly, and his mom dresses him funny.

Xtylez, I don't consider you to be a heavy camper, I don't give you any more shit than anybody else that kills me often.

As most of you know, I am Skiba and there are a number of reasons why I am not running Missionary. Recently I took a 4 month hiatus from playing and dismantled my gaming machine. Now the only machine I have to play on is the box I use for programming. Missionary uses the same dll files that I use for the majority of my projects, but it uses different versions. Installing Missionary would essentially render unusable the source code that I have written over the past 10 years.

Bargod, I agree with your premise that we need to preserve the integrity of the game, but there are a number of people that don't run Missionary for one reason or another. One of these is a Gangsta, but I don't remember who. Obviously MOB is aware of it and has given the player some latitude.

The point is moot, I am building a new gaming machine and when it is complete I will be moving toward COD:UO, only playing occasionally on Goodfellas to beat the living hell out of those people that routinely called me a hack after MOB guys told you I wasn't. There was even one player who bitched all game about me, two different MOB guys plus the console told them I was clean and the player still wrote an e to the admin after the map whining about me not using Missionary. I can't wait to get back on and spawn camp the shit out of that player. I hate whiny pussies.

Cypher

ps: Bargod, it's my wife dressing me funny after my shoulder surgery, not my mom.

ur still a punk

Silver, are you dipping into my painkillers? I see one lucid post by you followed by a scrambling of the alphabet (sans punctuation and carriage returns), followed by a rant. You know you aren't supposed to mix the Vicodin with the Vodka.

Cypher

HEHEHE SO TRUE!

I know you were skiba all along. But theres people like whacker and your.yeast.infection who should be asked to preserve the integrity of the game just like viejevox, ice, baller and myself.

Agreed. Has anyone asked them to use Missionary?

Nope, but we could if we knew WHO IS excluded from using Miss. So far we've got Skiba, and one of the Gangstas (don't know who). Is there anybody else? Cypher you've got to realize that people come on this server expecting to play against others that don't cheat and when they come on and continually get their ass kicked by the same high scoring guy that doesn't use Missionary then you can expect they are going to say something. Not everybody knows you or your situation so don't take it out on them. Why hell, it used to piss me off but I'm good with it now.

No one is exempt from Missionary. Cy is getting his gaming computer ready and when it is done he will be back with Missionary. Cy will not player on server #1 without Missionary any longer.

Gangsta is working on getting his Missionary fixed which will hopefully soon.

How about if Cypher just change his name frequentl?. Then nobody has to know anything.

well you kinda killed that now, didn't ya!

one other thing, it your guys server if people cannot understand why things go one way that's tough. its no longer a secret, so if someone dont like the fact that they dont use missionary because of this situation then tough. IMO skiba should be allowed to play on 1. shit happens.... normal people would understand. if people are seriously having an issue future, cy, and a Gangsta. we played with them long enough take a few screens till they get it working. missionary is a volatile program. when it works its good but it has issues.

last point, (save a new topic) lol is missionary gonna go COD as well?

that person never said a word in this topic, which shows cowardice.

I completely agree, my problem is with the people who were repeatedly told by MOB members that I was clean yet they bitched and complained every single time they got killed by me. I can even handle that, but when they take it even further and email the admins to bitch some more, c'mon, give me a break. Strap on a set of balls.


Cypher

lol, no. I have been asked not to play on MOB1 by somebody I respect and I will do what is best for the clan.

Cypher

How long before your gaming machine will be ready cy?

I had to RMA the video card (ATI sucks), the machine will be done when it comes back. Newegg said it shipped out on Friday so probably by Tuesday/Wednesday.

Cypher

Thanks guys. I was kind of pissed because when i said please ask whacker to come back with miss the response i got is: Why dont you ask him yourself? But I appreciate what yall doing. Thanks a lot.

Cypher,

I've been out of town for several days, so now I read your rant about not using Miss. I guess you're directing your anger towards me because I did contact Real Deal about this matter. I have contacted him about several issues in the past so it should not come as a surprise. He has always treated me fairly, and I wanted to get help on this. I think it's unfair. Moreover, I don't care if you kill me 100,000,000 times, it will always be unfair if you and players in your skill level don't use Miss. The computer is part of the equation, but it probably wouldn't matter if you had a 283 and dialup. You're always going to get high scores. By the way, I thought I shot you in the head in Stali and you didn't die. That's why I contacted Real Deal. Are you really going to hold that against me? All I want is a fair playing field. Is that asking too much?

You have MOB players saying it doesn't matter if you're the President of the US, you must use Miss. Then you have others saying that Skiba is a "special friend," and he doesn't need Miss. I consider Real Deal to be the final arbitrator. Sorry if I put you in a spot. I don't know you, and I meant no harm to Cypher. Can't you try to understand my position? In addition, this has nothing to do with my skill level, and even though I'm a beginner compared to you, I use Miss.

ML

When will people learn that the main hacks for mohaa are WALL hacks (i.e. SEE THROUGH WALLS) or AIMBOTs (AUTOMATIC AIMING CHEAT)

As far as I know I have NEVER encountered any cheats that allow someone to have more health or a 'shield' against your attacks...

You simply have bad accuracy and/or eyesight.

$aucy,

I am a good shot. You should know that. I didn't miss his head. It was an easy shot. Why he didn't die is another question. There never would have been a controversy in the first place if "Skiba" had been playing as Cypher and using Miss. This is not my fault, so don't try to turn this against me. You MOB guys either have standards or you do not. I know Real Deal does. He has settled this. Why not let it go?

Now I'm not claiming to be an expert in this field because I've never tried to learn about the cheats in MOHAA. However, this subject is an open book so I'm sure we can get the facts out. Why do you even bring this up? Are you standing up for fair play or not?

ML

I fully support the use of Missionary and that Cypher should have been using it, but I will say one thing.. I know Cypher for 2+ years now... he doesn't hack. End of Story.

The fact is that cypher cannot run missionary with his current situation and if you were smart enough to tell the difference between a good player and a hack then there would be no problem. Also you really should try to become "an expert in the field" before you accuse someone on a suspected hack that DOES NOT EXIST.

$aucy you are an idiot. This has been settled. Why don't you try to become an expert at using common sense. So now the issue is whether there is a hack for extra health. I've heard that there is. Are you an expert in hacks? Real Deal settled this. Now you try to turn it against me. You will lose this battle! Let's see what you got.

ML

You're a dumbfuck you know that. How is it you manage to make arguements out of every fucking topic. Just crawl back behind your bush .

Hello!

You started this argument. I accept what Real Deal has said: end of story! Now, since you brought it up, I'll research the topic of whether there is or is not a hack for extra health and post it under General Discussion.

ML

I did not start this conflict, I merely pointed out that your bitching was completely unjustified, end of arguement. Our views will obviously not be changed by what the other says so this is pointless.

Dear $aucy,

Are you saying that my issue with "Skiba" was completely unjustified? Once again, I ask you if you are for or against fair gameplay. You didn't answer before. The question is simple. I think you can even understand it, although this may be a streatch. Why do we even use Miss.? If your buddies are exempt, then we all should be exempt. You are a hypocrite. I think I'll post that everyone should stop using Miss. What point are you trying to make $aucy? Are you saying that we don't have to use Miss. anymore?

Real Deal,

This is not where I wanted this to go. I told you that this could bring on serious consequences. $aucy is wrong here. However, I will continue this thread to illustrate how stupid he really is, which won't be very hard.

ML

Not 'buddies'. Skiba is a special condition if you can't understand that then you are the stupid one here. I am for fair gameplay otherwise I would not have joined a clan such as this that supports the anti cheat movement so greatly, and no I am not saying that everyone doesnt have to use miss anymore , and if you do not want this to go this way then maybe you should stop fighting everyone.

Say what you will, I have an opinion on the subject and your 'insults' and clever use of sarcasm will not change it. Continue the topic if you want, just know that you will be debating yourself.

Good day.

OMFG. this is the gayest thread i have ever read and i post some totally stupid shit. saucy stfu and leave it alone look who u are arguing with? How stupid. the 2 of you are carrying on like fucking preschoolers.

Mona i really dont have much to say to you. i dont know if its worth the time to type it out.

yes sir.

D-Silver,

If you read the thread then you know that I tried to stop it. This is not an issue that you MOB guys can just sweep under the carpet because you don't like what I have to say. This is serious. Fair means only one thing. I thought Miss. was meant to keep the game "FAIR." Am I right or wrong? If you answer yes then remember your words. I thought this server was based on honest and fair gameplay. D-Silver, what have I done for you to treat me with disrespect? You MOB guys have many issues, with all the insults and criticism, but I can't imagine that any of you would advocate rules that would give an advantage to anyone. Real Deal settled this. Why are you all still debating whether I have the right to complain? Skiba should have used Miss.! Real Deal agreed. Let it go!

ML

It's over guys. No need to keep flaming each other over it.