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realdeal
Normally I would never post something like this. In fact, I wish it wouldn't have come to this however, I feel I need to post about some non-truths that have been floating around the community about Diesel and what he is telling people his reasons are for leaving MOB.

Diesel was our first recruit after the split. As I have previously stated, he was a big part of our success after the split. Again, I did not want this to come to this but unfortunately it appears that some people cannot just let go.

I have always considered Diesel a true friend however, the longer I am around MOB and clans in general, those you sometimes consider true friends are not and will stick the knife in your back the first chance they get. Unfortunately, I personally have learned this lesson the hard way, a few times.

It seems that Diesel is spreading mistruths about the reasons he left MOB and I thought I would "clear the air"

First of all, Diesel never bothered to tell anyone in {MOB} that he quit. His last post in our forums was after the =SK= match where he stated that he was "done with mohaa" and wanted to stick to COD:UO. This was fine as Diesel had previously brought this up in the past. But the next day he deletes himself from our OGL roster... never to be heard from again.

Nice huh? This is how a person treats his fellow team-mates, some of whom he had been "friends" with for over a year.

Second, Diesel cites a "lack of competitiveness" within the clan. This is just not the case. What I think Diesel is referring to is his frustration in the match vs. =SK= when we got out asses handed to us. Right before this match we had a number of issues. Gridlock was having random computer restarts and couldn't play, Madcapp couldn't play as his vent was not working, we had a miscommunication with Anvil and thought he was playing, but he wasn't. So, we had to pull Shifty (who hadn't played the game in months) out of retirement and into the match. Shifty had about 20 minutes notice, Ktulu was having cable connections and was pinging out and Diesel was having connection issues and thought he didn't have vent for most of the match. (He did) We tried to re-schedule but it was too late. I think you get the point; we went into this match ill-prepared. No big deal, we shake it off and keep on moving. We've lost before and will lose again. Shit happens. Diesel doesn't handle losing well. As far as Diesel having the most kills, this is certainly nothing to brag about in a match like this. See for yourself HERE.

Other than this match, we generally have too many members sign up for a match and decisions have to be made as to who will sit out or back up or sub in/out of rounds. So to claim a lack of competitiveness is just plain dim-witted.

Diesel also claims that we allow too many members into MOB and that we just let anyone old-body into MOB.
This is an interesting one considering Diesel basically threw one of our recent recruits (Who BTW is no longer with us) down our throats and against some people's better judgment, on Diesel's word, we took this player into the MOB family. (This player quit not 24 hours after his first match). Other than that player, our only recent recruits are Madcapp and Gridlock. Two players that I and most consider to be two top MOHAA players. Diesel had no problem recruiting these players either. So again, I am not sure where this is coming from.

Further, Diesel brags about having the most kills in our match vs. SK and claims that the fact he was having connection issues and still had the most kills on our team was "pathetic". Diesel, there is no "I" in team wink.gif

Apparently, Diesel has told several people the above reasons for why he left MOB, because I've already been contacted by a few people that Diesel has spoken to.

I did not want it to come to this however, I will not let someone tell lies and bad mouth this clan. Sorry, it's not going to happen.

I warned Diesel 2 times not to start this crap and to just let it go. To my last message Diesel replies:

"dont worry u start shit and I have everything to make ur precious clan fall apart...You started by telling me not to BS people why I left and I will tell them WHy I left like I have told them the truth ....its always good to have a mole (friend) in the clan...also I gave up moh "

Now Diesel claims to have a "mole" within MOB that has sent him private posts from our member's only forum. If this is true, we will weed the person out eventually and that person will be dealt with.

Furthermore, Diesel continues to play in our servers, of course he doesn't use his real name. He uses names like -|TLD|-SVTCobra (wishful thinking?) and $}{r|nk.

I could go on and on but I wont. I just wanted the truth out there in the open.

Good luck to Diesel a/k/a Vap0r[=VX9=Rct.] !


Go ahead Diesel, ruin "my precious clan" now. I'm waiting.
Mona Lisa
NO! This clan is more than any one player. RD, this is hard for me to understand. I love DIESEL, but I also love MOB. DIESEL deserves respect, whether he leaves or not. He's the best player I ever speced (no question!).

This is very difficult. My loyalty is with you and Druid, but I can't understand why DIESEL must go. I'm sorry.

ML
realdeal
QUOTE(Mona Lisa @ 06/10/05 12:00am)
NO! This clan is more than any one player. RD, this is hard for me to understand. I love DIESEL, but I also love MOB. DIESEL deserves respect, whether he leaves or not. He's the best player I ever speced (no question!).

This is very difficult. My loyalty is with you and Druid, but I can't understand why DIESEL must go. I'm sorry.

ML
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Diesel left under his own volition. I tried to show him respect. I privately asked him twice to stop bad mouthing MOB with his lies. I posted his reply in my post. Sorry, but someone like this no longer deserves respect.
Stockguy
Agreed, anybody who ever thinks about bad mouthing people and fucking us over in the clan deserves no respect. Hes a little girl for not handling it like a man, maybe he should go back to high school, they like adding into drama there.
Johnzillah
Didnt know this had happened. It is all news to me. D plays hard, and I thought he was 100% MOB. I didnt know he was using Cobra's name on your servers. I hate too see him leave Mob, he kept the Pot stirred up quite well.
.AmbiencE.
Mona...will you stfu up already. Good player doesnt mean shit. We've went over this before. Someone might be decent at racking up kills...but can be a prick. < people like that get no respect from me.
Mona Lisa
Stockguy,

This is really over my head, and none of my business. However, I am nonetheless moved to respond. Perhaps DIESEL is upset and doesn't understand the wrath of those who now turn against him. When I first started playing here, DIESEL was the foundation. Now, I think many of us wonder how this could have come to pass. I'll get out of this thread, because like I said, this is none of my business.

ML
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Mona Lisa
QUOTE(.AmbiencE. @ 06/09/05 11:04pm)
Mona...will you stfu up already. Good player doesnt mean shit. We've went over this before. Someone might be decent at racking up kills...but can be a prick. < people like that get no respect from me.
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Yea Ambience, whatever you say.

ML
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realdeal
QUOTE(Mona Lisa @ 06/10/05 1:06am)
Perhaps DIESEL is upset and doesn't understand the wrath of those who now turn against him.
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LMFAO
Did you read my post? Who turned against who here?

Remember, I asked him twice, actually three times (once on MOHAATRUTH) to drop it and let it go. He didn't.
.AmbiencE.
you already said it yourself. None of your business. Plenty of mine seeing that im the one that started all of this after i got the pm from pussy boy.
Mona Lisa
I've read it all, RD. Ambience, I will comply with your wishes after this post.

Goodby DIESEL. Always consider me your friend!

ML
realdeal
Something else interesting that I just found and thought I would add to show you exactly what we're dealing with.

Not only did Diesel join VX9 for MOHAA but he also joined a cod:uo clan called the 1st Armored.

No big deal right? WRONG!

Take a look at this:
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I'll give you one guess as to who theCLINCHER is. Take a look at the date of that post..... May 19. LMAO. Diesel was still playing in matches with MOB.

I rest my case.
The_redeemer
owned.
*AtimA*
wow its hard to belive DIESEL did this but i c it with my own eyes!
BTW how do u know that is D?
and thanks D for all the nades u showed me biggrin.gif
Bargod
QUOTE(*AtimA* @ 06/10/05 1:04am)
wow its hard to belive DIESEL did this but i c it with my own eyes!
BTW how do u know that is D?
and thanks D for all the nades u showed me biggrin.gif
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Actually, he was using that name for some reason while playing with some of us on CODUO. I thought it was because we were on a server who MOB (I was still a reg, of course) might play them in a match. I believe it was an |ax| server, but I could be wrong. Anyway, he was using the name clincher for a bit. And, we were on vent together, so it wasn't like I was guessing.
Hey, a lot of us like Diesel. And if you've played with him on vent you know he loses his cool and gets seriously pissed when he doesn't think he's playing his best, or, quite frankly, when others are just playing better. He'd leave a server in a heartbeat when things weren't going his way. I don't think that's a bad thing. If you're playing like crap (in your own oppinion) maybe it's best to not play when you know it gets you pissed off.
But there is no reason not to be brutally honest with people who consider your their friend and just say, look, I think I would be better off somewhere else. Maybe Diesel felt he was no longer the top player in the clan and wanted to move on to where he could be. Who knows. An ego can be a fragile thing. Maybe he just felt that he wasn't being listened to enough and that his strats were better. These are all reasonable reasons to leave. But remember, he didn't just leave MOB. He left people who considered him a freind. I will miss talking with "Cheesel" as I liked to call him, and I'll miss being called "Barfrog". But this is no way to leave.
OK, I'm starting to ramble.
There was just a better way to handle this, and there is no reason for him to trash talk if he felt it was time for him to move on. That's just not something that a friend does.
All over but the Crying
I didn't know him like you guys did but it seemed his only redeeming quality was his gaming ability. I personally allways thought he was a little bitch. He seemed to have the temper of a 2 year old.
.AmbiencE.
bar...once you've played in a match with him i think your opinion might sway a different way. Expecially against SK.
cypher
I probably share the same personality as Diesel, I am hyper-competitive to a fault. I understand his frustration with the game, which is why I don't play much any longer.

I never, ever considered leaving to join another clan however, and I never spoke ill of anybody outside the family. I am of the opinion that everything stays inside the house.

Cypher
*AtimA*
lmao D if u left cause frustration...............u dont know frustration thill u join Regs!
[] BLiNd
{MOB}[regs]DIESEL

Haha.
*AtimA*
pretty aint it! give me a call D ill hook ya up!
Silver
atima.... rolleyes.gif

Diesel, WTF man? you were a moving force in MOB. WTF homie, things can not be that bad. im sorry man, if the guys a prick he was still family. damn slap nuts... i gonna miss your sick sense of humor. unforturne is the past displays the present.
Major Payne
QUOTE(realdeal @ 06/09/05 9:29pm)

First of all, Diesel never bothered to tell anyone in {MOB} that he quit.  His last post in our forums was after the =SK= match where he stated that he was "done with mohaa" and wanted to stick to COD:UO.  This was fine as Diesel had previously brought this up in the past. But the next day he deletes himself from our OGL roster... never to be heard from again.


He did the same thing to 3rdss when he joined MOB and RE. (yes at the same time for a little while)
Bargod
QUOTE(.AmbiencE. @ 06/10/05 8:45am)
bar...once you've played in a match with him i think your opinion might sway a different way. Expecially against SK.
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You are right, you guys knew sides of him that I didn't, but I'm not quite sure what you mean. I just try to stay unbiased whenever possible. But, I think I've seen Diesels dark side a few times.
realdeal
Just received another PM from Diesel:

"I warned you if you started shit that you would get it back twice as bad...either pull it down and apologize or you will see everything on MOH:Truth and also apologize for lieing about me quiting and face the facts 3 times I almost quit x-cept u cried for me to come back...I have so many ss's...either yank it donw and apologize or watch MOH truth...ur call I get off at 3pm and u have until 10pm tonite"

Isn't blackmail a crime in Canada anymore? wink.gif

Again, Diesel post what you got. I've got nothing to hide.

As for me "crying" for you to come back... The times you left I asked you to come back as a friend, as this is what I thought you were. Shit, I'll even post the emails I sent you about it if you want, I have nothing to be ashamed of. I considered you a friend. That's all. Maybe you're just mad that no one asked you to come back this last time. This post was not meant as a bash to Diesel but if someone is going to spread lies about this clan, you can be damn sure I am going to address it and back it up with facts. If anyone has a problem with that, then I don't know what to say.
Silver
my question is this why dont he come here and put it here. if he didnt care about MOB or what we thought then why would he give a crap whats put here. defend himself here.
realdeal
QUOTE(Silver @ 06/10/05 3:13pm)
my question is this why dont he come here and put it here. if he didnt care about MOB or what we thought  then why would he give a crap whats put here. defend himself here.
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Because you see, Diesel obviously cares about no one but himself. He could care less about his "friends" in MOB or he wouldn't have left the way he did. Not to mention some of the other underhanded things he has done in the past few days to try and stab us in the back. (Diesel knows what I am talking about)

Silver
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|$aucy|
I've been thinking about this for a long time now. Why would someone that has played with you for almost a year, someone that you had considered a friend ( I thought), just pick up and leave over one match. Over something so insignifigant. In my mind we play this game for entertainment, and I understand that some people are competitive and like to win. I also understand that some people have big egos and I don't have a problem with that. I only have a problem with someone you have spent time with virtually every day for a year just leaves. No warning. Just leaves, like they were never there. Even if I stretch my mind and imagine what Diesel was thinking I can almost imagine doing this, but I cannot possibly fathom what he would hold against mob. What did we ever do to him? Not be competitive enough? OK, sure, our competitiveness all of a sudden ceased to exist after that one match? .....

Diesel, You say you have enough 'shit on us' to 'bring us down'. I say go for it. If you really want to be like that go ahead. Do whatever you want, it is obvious you don't care about anything else besides winning at a video game, congratulations.

Have a nice life.

-SAUCY
D-DayVetLarry



Diesel I can't "fathom" either why you would leave such a good clan. They treated you with respect and everyone(at least a lot people including me) looked up to you. You set an example for people like us regs, and even some MOB members probably.

And once you did this, all the things you taught me, all the nice things you said, just went down the drain. What the hell.

Way to be a fucking leader and role model.
Druid
My prediction.
This forum is going to have a whole lot of people checking it at 10:00pm to see what diesel post.
Hey Diesel try and not disappoint them. LMAO
blk96gt
QUOTE(Druid @ 06/10/05 3:00pm)
My prediction.
This forum is going to have a whole lot of people checking it at 10:00pm to see what diesel post.
Hey Diesel try and not disappoint them. LMAO
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Is that 10 pm EST or Central? I need to be ready.
*AtimA*
QUOTE(D-DayVetLarry @ 06/10/05 2:48pm)
Diesel I can't "fathom" either why you would leave such a good clan. They treated you with respect and everyone(at least a lot people including me) looked up to you. You set an example for people like us regs, and even some MOB members probably.

And once you did this, all the things you taught me, all the nice things you said, just went down the drain. What the hell.

Way to be a fucking leader and role model.
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hell ya i looked up to ya DEISEL

and for ur post druid. i get front row seat bitches!
Opeth
here is a PM one of my members got on our forums.

QUOTE("{MOB}DIESEL")
looking for any plans on Southern France or Stalingrad ...let me know
realdeal
QUOTE(Opeth @ 06/10/05 4:10pm)
here is a PM one of my members got on our forums.

QUOTE("{MOB}DIESEL")
looking for any plans on Southern France or Stalingrad ...let me know

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Is this for real Opeth??

Boy retirement is looking good right about now.
The_redeemer
WOW.


Diesel is a real winner.


Silver
i got popcorn.....
any snow caps?
Ice_Cold
Its too bad people have to act the way Diesel has been doing.
Nate
Yeah but this is why we never let diesel go earlier is cause we knew he would do just this.Yeah bud its not like we didn't want u gone for a while.But we tried to let it go quite and just all be cool but fuck tard of course has to start his unloyal shit everywhere.im my opinion diesel has a small dicka nd this is one of the side effects.
TheGhost
i looked up to you to DIESEL aswell, i thought you were the coolest guy when i met you on UO. Shit i mean if it werent for you i wouldnt even be here right now. So you just have me believe that your my friend ( and most of these guys friends to) and you just fuckin dropped out and bein (like nate said) a fucktard.


I hope your real fuckin happy buddy. Crawl in a sewer and die for all i care.


so heres a goodbye present from my heart to yours

2up.gif
Blakjak
QUOTE([] BLiNd @ 06/10/05 9:57am)
{MOB}[regs]DIESEL

Haha.
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LMFAO. This shit is too funny, can't wait to see what goods Diesel's got for mohtruth...flamethrowingsmiley.gif.
Himmler
Diesel=EZ Pussy

I had a funny feeling Diesel had every thing to do with TheCock/Heisenpussy, shit wait, TheDoc/Heisenberg joining MOB..That really floored me & a lot of people.After all that shit he talked about Himself(Diesel) You RD & MOB in general.

Diesel asked if Heisenberg could play in the match, we had no problems what so ever.We set 3 goals for that match.1-win the match, 2-put both Diesel & Doc in the negative, 3-If we lose the match still put both Diesel & Doc in the negative.

We knew & my Old clanmates knew if we put Doc in the negative both rounds, he would go away..Opeth even got a Bash on him, but the pussy has a bound kill key.Still a bash in my book..

Also the crap Diesel said about us having your plans before the match.Just another excuse he needed for the lost.WTF his ping was fine all match..Sorry but we practiced a lot for that match, just on certains plans from the spawn.After that is all about experenice of players reacting to how things unfold.

I personally think MOB is better off without Diesel, I love Madcapp & Gridlock, always have had fun playing in matches with them.Two Class Acts, even if I lost or won vs them we always got along very well..

Whole thing about Strats for Stali & SF, we are not Diesel looking to gain from others hard work RD..

Any hoot sorry to here crap like this happens, but MOB will still be a force to deal with in MOHaa.Diesel was far from being "The Team" here man..

Phat Boy
QUOTE(realdeal @ 06/10/05 2:06pm)
Just received another PM from Diesel:

"I warned you if you started shit that you would get it back twice as bad...either pull it down and apologize or you will see everything on MOH:Truth and also apologize for lieing about me quiting and face the facts 3 times I almost quit x-cept u cried for me to come back...I have so many ss's...either yank it donw and apologize or watch MOH truth...ur call I get off at 3pm and u have until 10pm tonite"

Isn't blackmail a crime in Canada anymore? wink.gif

Again, Diesel post what you got.  I've got nothing to hide. 

As for me "crying" for you to come back... The times you left I asked you to come back as a friend, as this is what I thought you were.  Shit, I'll even post the emails I sent you about it if you want, I have nothing to be ashamed of.  I considered you a friend.  That's all.  Maybe you're just mad that no one asked you to come back this last time.  This post was not meant as a bash to Diesel but if someone is going to spread lies about this clan, you can be damn sure I am going to address it and back it up with facts.  If anyone has a problem with that, then I don't know what to say.
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HES A DISGRACE TO CANADA! pussy

-phats
TheGhost
OH canadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Silver
QUOTE(Phat Boy @ 06/10/05 6:40pm)
HES A DISGRACE TO CANADA! pussy

-phats
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lol
Gridlock
Diesel= gives.gif gives.gif smiliegojerkit.gif smiliegojerkit.gif smiliegojerkit.gif

What a tool.
The_redeemer
word gridlock



you and capp are much better for the clan than that two timing cocksucker.



Silver
9:55


p.s. 10:05 and nothing...his clock must be off....lol
(off topic but injecting humor)

p.s.s. 10:10 all clear! smile.gif

p.s.s.s. 10:23 and still bored... fartnew.gif

ok enough of this.... nothing here or on mohtruth. (i think)[10:33pm]
wtf did someone ban him? lol huh.gif
Big P
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The_redeemer
someone got cold feet.
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