Since the OTHER TOPIC has been spammed to death, we will continue this here.



Diesel, you have quit MOB so many times I have lost count. Most times you would quit because a match or scrimmage didn’t go your way or someone disagreed with your plans. Once you cooled down and came to your senses you were fine. You say that I “nagged” you to come back to MOB. I am sorry you feel that it was “nagging”, at the time I thought it was one friend talking to another. Funny now that I look back on it all, you even posted once how you COULDN’T leave:
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First, your 5/22 post was made in the area of our forums that only you, Nate, BigP and myself had access to. You know that. Secondly, you never said you were quitting MOB, you clearly stated you weren’t playing in matches anymore. Moreover, you indicated that it was only for MOHAA. As a matter of fact, I am the one who suggested to you that if that is what you wanted to do, then you should LEAVE the clan altogether. I also suggested you make a post for all MOB to see. Let’s go to the videotape…
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Sigh, wrong again. Our match vs. =SK= Red Devils was on 5/27. Here’s a link for you: http://www.worldogl.com/view_match_info.php?matchid=329939

Now, that we’ve confirmed the match was on 5/27/05 , let’s look at your post of 5/27/05
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‘nuff said?



I did? I don’t remember this one. But let’s go to the video tape…
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For someone that supposedly quit, you still seemed to take quite an interest.




This is a serious allegation Diesel and it’s obvious it’s from a crazed disgruntled former clan member. To be honest, I wish I could hack someone’s forums, not to hack them, but to be smart enough to do it. I’ll make you a deal, you post some proof that I hacked TLD’s forums, and I will immediately leave MOB, never to return again.



Old news, but sure! I would love to comment. After the match vs. TLD, YOU are the one who brought up Anvil’s name on Ventrilo. And you posted about how it seemed that TLD knew our plans. My response was that I was thinking that there was something weird going on as well, and brought up the fact that Anvil and Krang are very good friends and that Anvil told me before the match that Kr@ng had told Anvil about some nade trick that he came up with. (Not the how-to of the trick, just the usual “Wait until you see this awesome nade trick” type of thing) So knowing that they are close friends and that they had obviously talked with each other before the match , I simply posted my thoughts. But also ended my post with “I'm not saying anything for sure but.. it is odd” Furthermore, I spoke directly with Anvil about this and cleared the air. Nothing about our plans was told to TLD by anyone. You, knowing this, continued to accuse TLD of knowing our plans and wouldn’t let it go. You couldn’t accept the fact that we lost to them fair and square. You didn’t see me running around like an old washer-woman telling everyone about it.





Simply not true. More disgruntled comments coming from the crazed canadian. If you have the proof, post it.




Kennedy was assassinated… any comment there Diesel?? Are you going to blame me for world hunger too?

LMAO.



Old news again.. See post HERE for complete explanation.



YOU are the mole Diesel. When your forum member status was changed from MOB to non-MOB, due to a glitch, you were still able to access the private forums. This was your great attempt to make us think there was a mole so that we would begin fighting amongst ourselves. Nice try phsycho.

THIS is why Diesel’s account was deleted from the forums. Diesel is NOT banned from the site at all. All he needs to do is re-register. I would never delete anything that Diesel has to say, it makes for great entertainment for everyone.

[qquote]1 more huge tid-bit that will come out very soon .......
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Yawwwwwwn. You bore me kid.

Diesel, it is obvious what you are trying to do. Just like the "mole" thing. You are trying to tear MOB apart. It won’t happen. Actually, we are tighter than we’ve ever been. As a matter of fact, it’s been a joy not having you around any more. Maybe you’re upset that this time no one “nagged” you to come back.
Here’s a newsflash for you… After your antics on Ventrilo during the SK match, I was seriously considering throwing your ass out of the clan. Do you know what an unpleasant experience you made match play for our members? Do you know how many times I had to talk to some of our members so that they wouldn’t quit MOB because of you. Everyone walked on egg shells around you. You were a horror show and in my personal opinion, you need medication, seriously.

All I asked was that if you were leaving, to let your fellow clan members know about it, as it is only fair to them and that you don’t make up shit about why you left or bash MOB. Unfortunately, you couldn’t do either. But this seems to be your M.O., click, you'll need help)

Here’s a funny Yahoo chat I had with one of your former clan members right after you joined MOB last year..
hey
is diesel on?
mob_realdeal: ?
mob_realdeal: who is this?
XXXXX from 3rdSS
mob_realdeal: ahh.. no havent seen him ina few hours
ok, just curious if he joined MOB
mob_realdeal: yes he did.
kool, would have helped if he would have said he was quitting 3rdSS
but anyway
no clue.
do you have his new yahoo so i could chat with him
mob_realdeal: no.. dont know if he created a new one or not.
he still using diesel3rdss?
mob_realdeal: I dont know what his yahoo id is.


Get over it Diesel.

I wonder how long it will be before you try and give VX9 or 1st Armored's plans to another clan?

can some 1 plz tell me what it hurts for a nother clan to know ur plans?!
we scrim MOB all the time and we know their plans like the back of our hands and we still get murdered! tha way i c it every clan knows every clans plan its just how u exacute
ooooo watch Regs im gonna quit and tell every clan our plans!
LAMO it cracks me up!
BTW RD nice answers for every accuation well done!

I've been sniping all night on the 33rd[SS], trying to get better for MOB. DIESEL, as a friend, I ask you to please stop now. Your dispute with MOB should not interfer with the newcomers here. We want to go on. If you don't wish to fight here anymore, then remember, it's just a game. You've had your glory; I've seen it many times.

Now however, many new players have a chance to move up. Don't continue this. Let it go for everyone's best interest. Real Deal responded like a gentleman. Let's end this controversy and move on. I'll never forget you as a friend. I'll never forget you as a fighter!

ML

to : atima
it feels really bad when u about to play in a match and the other team know already what your plan is , and its hard to make up a new1 in less than 5 minues , but you cant use same plans in every match , because there are always members from others clans that ask around to people that you already played with u before how u played in the match , it kinda sucks , but every1 do it in this time , but i think clans that already played you shouldnt be giving plans out to any1 , make them find it out by themself......

btw really nice way to come back with diesel accusations RD. and now lets just let it die i say , Diesel it a good player , but MOB still being 1 of the best clans out there even without him, good luck to all fo u ..

that was just my 2 cents

Not sure what's worse, Diesel for starting the drama (and yes, you did), or everyone dragging it out.

Nobody gives a fuck why you left {MOB}, you're gone, period.

Grow up and move on.

And mark my words....{MOB} will be just fine without you, trust me.

drama drama drama.........


Just feel sorry for the clans diesel will now kill from the inside like cancer.

These clans have been playing for so long its hard to surprise anyone. Theres only so much you can do on a map. RD...i bet D shat himself after reading that. He probably bricked his computer in one of his violent rages. Mona Lisa....the motha fucka didnt die. You two dating on the side or something?

wow lame.
i really thought i was gonna hear sometihng good. like about the circle jerk {MOB} performs . but it was just lame, i dont think anyone hacked anyones forums. if they did it was an inside job or they really pissed off the wrong guy. (personal thoughts) i never had a problem with you diesel, and i know you are over competive but really man that shit aint cool. to get all upset over the loss of a game is crazy! its a game... you know what, i have a huge question. with all this drama going on what can he take with him? his knowlege of a game? his passion for a game? his elite skillz?? give me a break. true skill came from (and i wont name cuz it will cause more drama) past {MOB} members and a few current ones. D you dont hold a candle stick to some of them. {MOB} truly has skill and friendship. Bro you have skill but you lack the sense of team work it takes. it would be better to look back on things and say hey ilook what i helped build insted of look what mess i made. Oh look out the window once in a while....6hrs in practice? dear god!!!!
I dont know man, you are not a bad guy D but threat's against mob an posting private stuff isnt cool. if you wanted to go well i am sorry to see you go. i still look at you as a friend, sorry to see things end for you like this.

Silver.

What I find a bit ironic, at least for 1st Armored, is that they apparently went thru something very similar to this last month. Here is a thread from their formus 1st AD thread.
Huh, I wonder how they are going to feel when the CLINCHER pulls this with them in the future. He's already shown a tendency towards it.

Diesel continues to spew his lies.. But when it directly affects a member of this clan, I feel the need to respond.





This is a good one. Let's go to the videotape...
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Note it wasn't even Diesel that recommended Amber to MOB.

Now, you'll notice that I didn't even respond to this thread. You know why? Because I was admitted to the hospital a few days earlier! In fact, here's my post one of my first days back from the hospital..
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Yup... must have took a lot of convincing Diesel. <sigh>

hmmm who side to take. i like rd's screenies so i think my balls are dancing on his side!

-phats

Ambience, why are you trashing ML? I feel bad that Diesel's gone; he never did me wrong, and I would not appreciate being criticized for my feelings. If he did MOB wrong, he'll pay for it later, but you're not acting much better by insulting other players.

BB

Possibly because she keeps posting regarding a matter she knows nothing about. But that's just a guess...

Maddcapp, who are you to say what ML knows or doesn't know?

BB

Keep the posts ON TOPIC or they will be deleted.

He's MOB that's how. Let's keep this on topic please.

LoL, don't worry about it. Fact is people are chiming in who haven't a clue, and the drama is way past ridiculous.

really it sounds like a power struggle and he lost. i dont think it has much to do with anything but ego, and some hurt feelings. all this isnt worth the price of fun, fun isnt winning its letting go and enjoying the times. sounds like no one had fun, so its for the better.

Hello everyone, I just wanted to thank you for alerting us about a possible trouble maker in our ranks.
However we do think that everyone should be given a chance. I realize that the chances around here may have been used up, but some say that people learn from experience, hopefully this is the case if theClincher is Diesel. Also I am not sure if anyone else but me from 1stArmored read this far into this topic , but let it be known that I will communicate what I have read to the powers that be so that they are aware as well.

On a side note I had many run ins with MOB guys when I played MOH:AA daily in 2003/2004, and I always found them to be top notch.

Who knows maybe one day I will reinstall it and come feed yas some lead.

Anyway I gotta fly

Peace

Well, the screenshots Diesel was so eager to get out in the open have been posted on MOH-TRUTH. There are so ridiculous I wasn't going to respond however, I thought that there might be some people that weren't familiar with certain things that went on in the past and I thought it would be better to address the issues.

We'll take this screen shot first since it is the one the supposedly proves I hacked TLD's forums:
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I assume that this is the post that proves that I hacked TLD's forums.

For those that don't know:
A while back TLD's forums were hacked and someone by the name of LMAO posted screenshots of TLD's private forums in our forums. You can see the post HERE We removed the attachments pretty soon after they were posted. Most of what was posted was TLD members bashing me, Druid and MOB in General. In one of the replies HERE, Wassy wonders if there's any similar posts in MOB's private forums about TLD. Which there weren't. So as a joke, Druid posted what's in that screen shot.
BTW - This is a DEAD issue between MOB and TLD, so please no one bring this issue back to light.

For the next screen shot Diesel posted:
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I am not sure what to say about this nor do I know why Diesel posted it. I assume that this was because it was a compliment to Diesel. I've always publicly complimented Diesel so I'm not sure what the issue is. For example, take a look at this post HERE That was only just posted on 5/20/05.

On for the next bit of evidence supplied by Diesel:
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Again, I am not sure why this was posted. Diesel broke 100 kills.. so what? Who hasn't in this game by now? Funny thing is, one of Diesel's new team mates in VX9 posted the following about this screen shot on Moh-Truth:
"I wish that could have just stayed in our forums. It was a good score but SK had 2 new guys and most of those guys don't play a whole lot. "

On to the next bit of evidence submitted by Diesel:
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Wish I could add to this, but I have no clue as to why it was posted.

Next:
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This one is hysterical. Diesel is trying to say that this proves we wanted him back in the clan. Note the date is 6/10/05. This is the day AFTER I posted THIS. and the same day I received this PM from Diesel in reference to the aforementioned post:
This is the same day that I received this PM from Diesel:
"I warned you if you started shit that you would get it back twice as bad...either pull it down and apologize or you will see everything on MOH:Truth and also apologize for lieing about me quiting and face the facts 3 times I almost quit x-cept u cried for me to come back...I have so many ss's...either yank it donw and apologize or watch MOH truth...ur call I get off at 3pm and u have until 10pm tonite"

Now tell me, WHY would I invite him back on the OGL? I thought it was either a slip of the finger or someone had a good sense of humor. I even posted about this in our private forums to try and find out who did it:
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Onto the next piece of evidence from Phsycho:
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I addressed this in my original post in this thread:


Of course what Diesel fails to include in his screen shot is that he is the one who started the topic in the first place:
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Again, old news. As I stated above, Anvil and I had discussed this a day or two after the match. No one from TLD knew our plans.



That seems to be all the so-called "evidence" Diesel/MelVin/TheCLICNHER/Vap0r has.

I wanted this to end amicably. I can only assume Diesel was hurt that he wasn't asked to re-join MOB when he left this last time. I have previously thanked Diesel for his time while he was with MOB and I will say it again, Diesel was a great help while he was in MOB. Now he's gone and needs to get over it.

But instead of getting over it, he would rather make a total ass out of himself and spew his lies, rant and rave like a blubbering 5 year old and send our strategies to as many clans as he can find that will take them. For this, I have lost all respect for Diesel. He is a sell-out. I hope he enjoys his time with VX9 and 1AD... one can only wonder how long it is before Diesel pulls the same BS with them and tries to send other clans their strategies.

I hope he enjoys his new clans and they enjoy him as well.

NOW LET IT GO DUMBASS.

wow.



It was a lot of suspense, but like an overhyped movie, we find that there was nothing to see.






congrats on {MOB} being gentlemen about all of this.



mob rules

Oh my god what a flaming idiot.
That was his proof you hacked TLD?
LMAO
I haven't laughed so hard in days.

you bunch a elite hackers...
OMFG that was seriously lame. i was expecting to see something, he might as well have had pics of birds and dogs. im so lost...was there i pic missing? is it with the OJ glove? damn u guys are awesome hackers...

its with the OJ glove, an alien and the lost city of Atlantis

lol diesle doesnt know how to go to work like druid or rd! pussy nice work rd

-phats

lmao is DEISEL (vapOr) played in this match WOW must suck getting beat by same clan in two diff clans!

Ahhh, im gone for a week and all this crap happens. Well im not gonna read all of this endless spamming, and im not gonna look on this again so don't bother slamming me or watever.

Sorry to see you go diesel if you even read this forum. Your one of the better people in mohaa, deadly and professional...and canadian so thats always a plus. Glad we meet eachother in 3rdSS, i probally woulda quit mohaa if i didn't find someone else that didn't realize how much mohaa was screwed up back then. Your a good respectable player in my mind, no matter what these people are saying, not sure wat it else since i don't read BS but im sure its not good.

Hopefully i will cya around, if you ever just have a urge to play some mohaa your always welcome on our server and site.

Cya
Hans

you dont have to read MOB bs you can go to MOHTRUTH and read it there in a netural forum if you wish

Well Hans im quite sure you know the way out then. Im serious here MOB is our Team. Team has a much different meaning to it to some. It doesnt matter if your the best, or the least active you stay loyal to that team. As far as im concerned there is plenty of evidence provided by the clan leadership to show Diesel is wormy little cock bag. I've seen this shit directly, goes like this

Team - Disgruntled Team memebr
DTM trashes old team
DTM finds new team
DTM slings mud at old team
Old team memebers who like DTM defend DTM.
They praise him for his friendship and his abilities, but they dont look at what hes doing. This person is dogging YOU!
By shitting on our team he's shitting on us directly. You should open your eyes to it.

yes i agree gentlemen don't bash people for their ideas and feeling that is what a fourms board is for and everyone should respect everyone equal.poking fun is one thing being a dick is another.

hit the nail on the head with that statement

well...if you dont bother reading the "BS" then i guess you wont know what happend and why everyone is shunning Diesel. Wake up hans.

I think what sums it up is tidbits of what many people have said. He is a Sellout. He is a crazed canadian. He actually hurt the clan being in it then being a dumbass. He ruined his whole reputation and what he strived to accomplish. I sure hope it knows how much of an idiot he is and what he did to himself. He never hurt mob, he only fucked himself over.

Kind of surprised you all put this in a public forum. Seems like every clan has gone through this at one time or another. We faced the same thing with one who would be king. We survived it, you will too. Good luck and look forward to killing you all on the battlefield.

Just for the record.... I never wanted it to be public. It was our intention to let Diesel ride off into the sunset. Unfortunately, he wanted to go out with guns blazing.

well, diesel was a great player but i know you have plenty more and gl on taking #1 against TLD on your upcoming match

No worrie!! Walk in the Park

what park do you walk in????

lmfao, it will be a good match as always

SNOWY PARK!!!!

And another topic gone off the side of the road..........

i'll help you out as well.


diesel is now a has-been to this clan. NOW we can move on.


case closed.


atima, have fun on your church trip.

Well Dies, I must admit I am surprised. I remember when I was in the regs when they first started you would help me out in the practice server and shit trying to get better. Man that was the shit, like my on private lessons lol, eventhough your temper was kind of strange...as in..annoying. Sure you had a bad temper and took the game too seriouse like I myself used to, but o well. I didn't think it would get you into this damn mess heh.

I'll miss you banana squeezer.

Aww Naww,
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