http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/08/...n.ap/index.html

why would we invade? WTF does cuba or their lil buddy veni have shit to do with us? are they sad cuz we left them out of the WOT?

hell i dont even consider them a threat, not even during the cuban missile crisis, it was still russia using cuba as an idiot, or a distraction.

like giving a retard a pistol and pushing him out in front of our army.

You didn't consider 15 ICBM's parked just a few miles off the Florida keys a threat? Your Cavalier attitude towards this shows your ignorance. Let me ask you this. Did you consider alkida a threat before 911? These guys are associating with countries like China and North Korea and trust me, we do not want any part of China.

Not considering that it was Russia's involvement that put them there... and seeing as it would take 15 min to wipe them off the face of the earth. 15 ICBM would do damage but not catastrophic. Millions lost is sad but not the end of Western civilation. Yes I considered Osama a threat Al Qaeda (that what you meant?) I also consider china and India a threat. More economic then military. I think you posting the way you have is more trying to insult me rather then actually discuss this topic. sad part is my "Cavalier" attitude is more or less a solid Ideal the the Gov has. Colleteral damage is a part war, terror is a part of war, underground warfare has been a part of war for thousands of years. You seem more blinded by the fact we were hit on 9-11-01, like it came as a shock... I perfer Brittish response (public and Parliment) to the hostile muslim clerics. My ignorance has/is preparing for the worst. Buffing up on urban combat, survival supplies, and other such thing incase I happen to survive a chemical of nuclear attack. A sad part of reality........

I personally consider China to be a military threat just as much as I do an economic one.

Billion people is alot. They still lack in technology and are still a little behind the times. (on a civilian basis..) no doubt in time they will be THE super power. I really think there economic boom will be short lived, every country is tired of the cheap labor and will stat to impose taxes on them. India is falling shot in the glass MFG because china is picking it up... soon enough the world will cut the string, and their economic base will crumble.

I miss my car honey

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LOL.... <sigh> suprised the 2 we have are still intact... (I miss it toooooo...... )

I still miss MY car....

LMAO.....

weirdos

You wonder why people talk shit to you .......There it is....It was an A and B conversation You wanna be so C your way out of IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

China and India are nulcear superpowers, and that's all they need. They are not to be taken lightly, nor will they crumble economically anytime soon. Anybody read Friedman's new book The World Is Flat? I would read it before making any assumptions about the nature of the world to come, it's very informative.

I will but I really think with all the union talk and media coverage on china's buyout of american companies I expect the gov. to attempt to equal out the trade between the two countries. Inda is also on the bitch fest over the loss of its glass industry... with trade embargos and tariffs, I dont see them Leaping ahead. but this is all based on hope... which dont mean shit. but there is a vast divide between classes in china. with one going so far ahead of the other, history shows that system dont work well. But who knows, no one predicted russia and east germany falling either. like i said no one can predict the future I just hope for the best w/o suger coating it.

By the year 2010, China's Navy willl be 5 times the size of ours and they have a jet that outperforms anything we currently have. Their population has averaged about 9% growth a year for the past 25 years so their current 1.5 billion will be 3 billion around 2014. I personally view them as a threat.

really? I would like to read up on that but a quick google search did get any good hits? (where did you get that from?) I thought the stealth F-22 was currently the shit. But if we released the F-22 we have something else sitting around..... I hope china dont act like a fool and we get going like the cold war.

They are purchasing Vector driven Sukhoi's from Russia. I had a video that showed one of them in action (quite impressive). I will see if I can dig it up and post a link.


http://www.sci.fi/~fta/Su-37-2.htm

looks nice, but i dont think it could hand that much of a pay load, maby a couple of A-A/A-G misslies

Here is the video.


http://bemil.chosun.com/movie%20link/SU-35.wmv

http://www.area51zone.com/aircraft/switchblade.shtml

new fighter? I dont exactly trust the web site BUT....

I trust these guys... and according to them the su-37 is no longer in production... and they make a great arguement as to stealth v.s. manuveribility(?)

http://www.flymig.com/forum/posts/1106877863.htm?fr=1

not like it really matters during the Israel and Egypt conflict we sold isreal 100 of our forghters and russia sold egypt a shit load of theirs. during the 15 day war (I think that was the war) Russian fighter's (manned by russian piolts) fought the Israel airforce with our planes and lost. russian Gov. accused America of having our piolts in the seat when we had no piolts over there during that time. (and the planes sold were not our superior planes) like I believe never show your poker hand, always appera weak when you are strong. But who knows we really do need a better plane, and taking 20 years to develop one is BS all on its own.

http://www.answers.com/topic/sukhoi-su-47


Sukhoi has a new one comming out as well.


The point is that China is a threat and has said to us that they are a threat. We would be ignorant to think otherwise.

Isrraeli pilots are believed by many to be the finest on the planet.

Israeli pilots are very good because they not only have more training but have somewhere between 5 and 10 times as much flight time as compared to American pilots. I know their overall kill ratio is over 30:1, compared to America's 11:1 over the same period.
A book I read a long time ago talked about how during the 70's when Israel and Egypt where fighting. Egypt was going to stop buying Russina mig's because the mig's were unable to survive dogfights with the Isreali mirage.
Russia actually sent some of their best pilots to fly in place of Egyptian pilots to prove the Russian MIG 21 was a superior plane. All 5 Russina piloits died when they went up against Isreali pilots.

yeah and they had a hissy fit the russians thought the piolts were actually americans. Israel does sme bold shit, they sent almost all their airforce up to take out egypt and left a handfull of plane to defend the skies of Israel. (like less then a doz. I believe)

The Israeli Army is, pound for pound, the toughest in the world. But that's because they have American technology and training and they are in a constant state of war.

China's military might not be as advanced as ours, but it's a tremendous force, and there's something to be said for the sheer number of boots they can put on the ground. What's scary about China is that for the last twenty-five years they have seen the US perched atop the world, and they are hungry to take our place, quietly but aggressively transforming itself so that it can. It's reminiscent of Japan in the period leading to WWII.

China has an inferiority complex, and that's dangerous.

I'm not confident that we have paid them enough attention in the last decade or so.

Is it true that the Egyptian pilots refused to fly after awhile? Or am I thinking of Iraqi pilots during Desert storm?