Give me a number where I can reach you! I think we need to talk!!! Your response to me isn't sitting well right now. As a matter of fact...I'M FRICKIN' PISSED!!! ;o(

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Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 2:11 PM

Subject: Re: Kicking ME!

Here is the short and long of it.

Sorry if this are hard to read they were resized down and I don't have the originals.

Either way you can see Condor saying "Goodbye Cheater" as soon as Cobra left.

Then when asked about it he insinuates he knows "Cobra, Cypher and At Cheat, Why?

Because a little birdie told him.

I spoke to Realdeal before he kicked/Banned Condor. I told him to feel free to kick or ban anyone coming in using the {BOM} tag and this is why.

In the last 7 or 8 days I've received 3 emails from people playing on the server asking what the deal was with the {BOM} people.

The emails mentioned snide little remarks made about {MOB} members form people using the tag {BOM}.

I never witnessed anything 1st hand so I basically ignored the emails.

Well, last night I witnessed the exact same types of remarks 1st hand.

My understanding about why Realdeal kicked you is because you continually set in spec. If the server is full, idling in spec is considered rude.

Your wasting time sitting in spec while your taking up a spot that otherwise could be used by someone who actually wanted to play.

I've been told he kicked you a couple of times and each time you came back and set in spec.

So, he banned you instead. Shortly after someone on a banned IP address, kept tying to come back on the server with the name

"MOB CHEATS MOB" or "HAS NO INTEGRITY"

All I know is some of the people who use to help GPF admin #4 seem to have problems with MOB members.

Is Condon the same person as Lowely Noob? Not that it really matters.

I did see the response from Condor, and he was relaying what he had heard. I'm not defending his response, just stating what I saw. Enough said.

I heard Condor was the biggest whinny little trouble maker in MOHAA.

Thats just what someone told me. Enough said.

I, along with Druid and probably yourself am becoming VERY tired of dealing with immature behavior, only lately it's been directed towards me instead.

Oh so now it's a problem because it's directed at you.

Sorry but someone wearing the same little {BOM} was directing it at MOB last night.

I haven't done anything that I know of to warrant this type of harassment...have I? All I know is that I was accused of kicking one of your members on #4. I tried to explain to your member that I didn't kick them intentionally and at best it was probably a mistake while using AK and his name was scrolled to when I hit kick by accident on another player. I was told by these people that it was me that kicked them and that they had the SS to prove it. I NEVER saw the SS that I said to send. Besides, you know as well as I do, that it doesn't say who kicked you by name no matter what, so how would they know it was me in the first place? I wasn't the only admin at the time. At this point, I don't care anyway, it's done and over...move on people!!!

I haven't a clue what your talking about. What I do know is several MOB members had nothing but problems by some of the people helping admin #4

Yes it does matter what tag you use, someone else using it just called 3 MOB players cheaters.

You or someone else using has prompted 3 people to email me in the last week about little remarks that were made on our server.

Or am I being singled out because I can play well and keep up with your best players or beat them and that's not sitting well with MOB?

Do you think comments like that help?

I can't believe you would kick or ban me for that, or are you? I would hate to think your admin's are that immature in that instance and are doing that. Case in point, The other night, I was playing on your server and was racking up my score and was called out by one of your members that I was beating. He said (no names) mentioned, that I was a spawn killer! LOL...OMG!

That's like calling the kettle black, isn't it? That's what a lot (not all) of MOB players do that I have seen to date. So, I replied simply that I was just doing what MOB players do. Since I was on your server, I just thought I'd play the way you guys do, and I guess they didn't like that. Oh well! All is fair in love and war...except cheating. Personally, I don't like spawn killers...but it was a refreshing change I must admit.

I'm going to guess he was making fun of the fact some of the people you hang around have cried about spawn killing on #4.

You'll never see an MOB player crying about spawn killing. Unlike others, we recognize it for what it is, a part of the game.

To make this short, please stop kicking me for no real reason. I haven't given your admin's a reason for them to do that. I like playing on the MOB servers now that GPFs is down for awhile because of the level of play. Please don't read into this mail more than skin deep. Mail can be so impersonal. If you want to talk to me over the phone, just let me know and I'll be more than happy to do that. Thanks guys.

I'm not going to waste my time with people who fill the need to be on the server for other reasons than playing the game.

Several people seems to be under the misconception they can do and say what the want because they have a right to play on our servers.

Well, they're wrong, it's not their right it's their privilege.

At this point it looks like their privileges have been revoked.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: Kicking ME!

I thought it best to reply to both of you from Druid's response to me. I hope you don't mind that I didn't respond to your reply to me Nixon. As far as the conversation between Condor and whoever else was involved, I don't know if I was there for the whole thing, or I just missed the beginning of it. In either case, I did see the response from Condor, and he was relaying what he had heard. I'm not defending his response, just stating what I saw. Enough said.

I, along with Druid and probably yourself am becoming VERY tired of dealing with immature behavior, only lately it's been directed towards me instead. I haven't done anything that I know of to warrant this type of harassment...have I? All I know is that I was accused of kicking one of your members on #4. I tried to explain to your member that I didn't kick them intentionally and at best it was probably a mistake while using AK and his name was scrolled to when I hit kick by accident on another player. I was told by these people that it was me that kicked them and that they had the SS to prove it. I NEVER saw the SS that I said to send. Besides, you know as well as I do, that it doesn't say who kicked you by name no matter what, so how would they know it was me in the first place? I wasn't the only admin at the time. At this point, I don't care anyway, it's done and over...move on people!!!

Unfortunately though, some people haven't moved on, and for some twisted reason they want to keep the momentum and tensions flaring. I know for a fact, that I have NOT caused RealDeal any problems that I can think of. So why that comment during the game last night to me? Why did he mention that BOM should take the hint after he (or whoever) banned Condor? Am I being singled out because I use the BOM tag...which isn't even a real clan tag on a MOB server? Does it really make any difference what tag I use? Let's keep everything into perspective, It's only a game guys, not the military. I already did my part for Uncle Sam, GOD and Country...22 years worth of G.I. Joe. Or am I being singled out because I can play well and keep up with your best players or beat them and that's not sitting well with MOB? I can't believe you would kick or ban me for that, or are you? I would hate to think your admin's are that immature in that instance and are doing that. Case in point, The other night, I was playing on your server and was racking up my score and was called out by one of your members that I was beating. He said (no names) mentioned, that I was a spawn killer! LOL...OMG! That's like calling the kettle black, isn't it? That's what a lot (not all) of MOB players do that I have seen to date. So, I replied simply that I was just doing what MOB players do. Since I was on your server, I just thought I'd play the way you guys do, and I guess they didn't like that. Oh well! All is fair in love and war...except cheating. Personally, I don't like spawn killers...but it was a refreshing change I must admit.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 9:10 AM

Subject: Re: Kicking ME!

I don't know about you but I was there when he banned Condor. I was in spec running some test on scripts.

I didn't want anyone bugging me so I went on the server under another name.

Right after I got on the server I noticed Condor saying something about someone cheating.

So, I waited to see who he was talking about so I could spec them,

Next he says along the lines of " Goodbye Cheater"

Realdeal asked him what he was talking about.

Condor replied along the lines " He heard Cypher, Cobra, AT, all cheat.they should just admit to"

Then before Realdeal kicked/banned him he said " They should just admit to it"

I'm tired of having to deal with this.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 9:01 PM

Subject: Kicking ME!

Hey Druid and Nixon,

WHAT'S the DEAL??? Why are you guys kicking me out on MOB#1 now??? Someone was kicking me, and then bounced me all the way out using CI. You banned Condor for something that I thought wasn't really a banning offense in my opinion. He was only relaying what he heard when you asked him. However, I NEVER said a thing during the whole conversation, PERIOD!! Then, RealDeal sends up a comment to me about taking the hint, what's that supposed to mean? He also accused me and Condor of causing nothing but problems...WHAT HAVE I DONE THAT HAS CAUSED PROBLEMS for him or anyone else?? I have NEVER bad mouthed ANY MOB member...EVER, either in the game on your servers or #4. RealDeal then asked me to leave the game...FOR WHAT? Just for being there? I'm sure it was RealDeal that was kicking me, but I could have been any other member that has admin priv's on that server as well. Please reply with some kind of real reason's for that type of treatment, not just some canned response. Thanks!

BTW: I have all the screen shots to prove what I say, and that I was being harassed by a MOB member for absolutely NO reason!!!