Thanks for your help with this Druid.  I didn't expose the rest of MOB to the early problems I had with A Lowly Noob because GPF took care of the issue immediately and revoked his admin priveleges.

He IS a stand-up guy and I am sure he will do the right thing with this.

Cypher

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Cheponis" <mac@Wireless.Com>
To: "Druid" <thedruid@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: Some Info needed


Druid,

I have a query out to the admins.

I will get back to you asap.

This is TOTAL bullshit and I'll get rid of the asshole admin(s) that are
doing this and ruining the experience.

As you know, I love it when MOB guys get on the server - they bring the
level of play way up, which helps everybody.

I had a nice long chat with Big Dick Daddy and he pointed out that MOB
monitors MOB for cheating, and kicks them out right away if caught.
That is the only reasonable way to be.

But hell, just because somebody is better than some admin thinks you
"should" be sure as hell is no reason to kick.

One of the admins pointed out that if someone is always getting 75% -
80% kills (that is kills/(kills+deaths) is in that range) then they MUST be
using an aimbot.  Frankly, I'd rather these aimbot jerks get their jollies
and NOT kick them, because we cannot PROVE they have an aimbot.  If
EVERY SINGLE GAME FOREVER had 80% kills, never 85%, never 70% etc then
you begin to wonder....


Lemme get back to you when I hear what the admins have to say.

Thanks -gpf


On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Druid wrote:

Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 15:34:05 -0700
From: Druid <thedruid@cox.net>
To: GPF <mac@Wireless.Com>
Subject: Some Info needed

Who is helping admin your server?
There have two instances in the last two day were MOB players have
been kicked for suspected cheating by someone helping admin the server. ( Spy
vs. Spy, Bucc ).
I wasn't there and the details are sketchy. I'm only going off of an
email I received.

If someone is helping admin your server by using a CI remote.
Please ask them to make use of the screenshot ability.
Any MOB players on your server will be more than happy to have
screenshots forced on them and email them in to prove they aren't
cheating. For someone to call a person a cheat and kick them without giving them the
ability to defend themselves is cheap.

I've always thought you were a stand-up guy from the day we meet for
the MAC match and what happened after it.
I think it's great you use {MOB} in your server tag, it's always nice
to have another server, especially one as big and popular as yours. The
situation has always been a little weird since you didn't want to become
an MOB member, but only use MOB on your server name.
As much as we like the fact your server is considered a MOB server,
there is no way we would want you to continue using MOB in the name when
{MOB} players are getting publicly accused of cheating and rudely kicked
when asked why they didn't force a screenshot if they suspected cheating.
This is completely different then when CI reported Cypher as cheating
because of a problem between CI and the honesty config we run for OGL
matches. To get auto-kicked by CI over a glitch is understandable, but for
someone who admins your server to publicly call 2 MOB people cheaters
without taking 5 seconds to force screenshots is unacceptable.

We have made it as easy as possible for anyone we think is cheating to
send in screenshots. We give everyone access to an image upload page at
http://image.mobclan.com . This way it's as easy and painless as possible
for anyone who gets screenshots forced on them to prove they weren't
cheating. They don't even have to covert the pictures to .jpg
You or anyone who helps admin your server are more than welcome to use
the upload page.

Nothing kills a server faster than an Admin who kicks people who play
well, but calls it :::cheating:::
You may keep the same number of people in the server but they will all
end up being noobs.

I hope we can talk about this and solve the problem before it
continues and gets completely out of hand.


Druid