I didn't dispute that portion of your post. I only dispute the portion I quoted. To reiterate, you said:




It is outrageous to claim this is the belief of "most liberals and Democrats". It is, in fact, so outrageous that I was willing to bet you couldn't name a single person who has stated that these are their beliefs. You now claim that these are the beliefs of Hillary Clinton.

I say that's bullshit.

Please provide a link to a news story or report of ANY prominent democrat or liberal that quotes them as saying anything like what you claim they believe. If you can, I will sincerely and cheerfully apologise to you. If you can't i would hope (but not expect) that you would apologise to all of us for spouting such unsubstantiated partisan crap.



Uh huh. You're right and I'm wrong but you don't want to "waste time" by by providing a single reference to back up your claim.

I repeat:

Sheesh!

I'm sorry for saying MOST... I would like to change that to SOME. Other than that, I have no idea why you feel you need to roll me like this? I'm not happy with our current government right now, so I don't want you to think that I'm partisan to either party. I just don't like how either party can screw up a process that helps everyone because of stupid partisan bullshit. That was my point.

I will attempt to find a link or two, I've been off all week and not spending a lot of time on the pc. I get most of my info from watching the news or CSPAN, or sometimes from friends that work on the Hill. Still dissapointed that you feel attacking me is solving anything.

They do that in UK aswell.You think the Govenment would learn....................but OOOHHH no,they should never be let out of prison in my book.

I believe in honesty and rational debate. It has become FAR too common in political argument, especially U.S. political argument, for proponents of one side of an issue to massively distort the view of the other side, and then ridicule them for it. It is, as I said before, intellectually dishonest, and that really annoys me, whichever end of the political spectrum it comes from.
Such a ploy indicates that one is either too lazy or too ignorant to address the real arguments on the other side of the issue.

I confess that my posts have assumed that it was you who was using this deplorable tactic. In now realize that it is possible you are simply repeating what you have been told (it sounds like something O'Reilly or Limbaugh would say), and that you sincerely believe that this is what Hillary Clinton thinks. If this is the case, I apologise for the tone of my posts. I certainly have nothing against you personally. I hope that when you are unable to find any quote substantiating your statement, you will realize you've been lied to, will come to share some of my outrage.

For the record, I dispute even your shift from MOST to SOME. Oh, I'm sure there's a retard somewhere out there that believes this, but am sure that virtually every liberal and democrat would join you in ridiculing anyone stupid enough to believe that all criminals emerge from prison rehabilitated.




This post has been edited by Stickman: 05/21/06 2:47pm

correct me if im wrong but i was reading that some states are making the released child offenders go door to door in there nieghborhood and tell them where they live and why they were in jail as part of their release.i also read the ones who have multiple arrests have to even put a sign on there vehicle. i thought it was texas but could be another?

i love it!

I saw that on tv, a bumper sticker stating they're a sex offender. If the sticker is removed, they go back to prision, for parole violation. As for the door to door, haven't heard about that.

Here are a few links that popped up first in my search, I'll be able to look into it more tomorrow while I'm at work. Again, I'm bi-partisan, but I don't that Bill O'Reilly lies about this stuff. He single handidly helped John Walsh to get this bill passed this past month by asking his viewers and listeners to contact Kennedy. I not trying to spew propaganda or anything, just what I've read, heard, or seen. Take it or leave it.

Link 1

Link 2

Link 1 is dead. I assume it was supposed to be this?
Assuming it was, both links refer to the part of your post which, as I've already told you, I do not dispute. Enough about Ted Kenedy already!

Still waiting for a quote from Hillary (or any other prominent liberal or Democrat) indicating they believe what you claim they believe.

I guess they were also live right next to Disney World too....In motels that people stay at while they were on vaction there....

Kind of sticking to the topic here w/the links. I'm sure the other stuff can be found if you want to look for it, I get most of my info on the news, radio, etc. I'm not going to waste my day looking for links to post here so you can slam them. Being from the DC area, our news stations cover a lot of politics (I'm sure Flatliner could back that up) but at this point, I feel that you're just starting a fight that I dont' want to get involved in. Obviously you want me to debate this with you and post links that you can tear apart... I'm not going to play into all that. I'm going to stick with what I've heard or read and then my own beliefs and opinions. For the record, I wasn't trying to pick on Clinton or anyone... well, maybe Kennedy, but my beliefs are that many politicians are bad people. Take it for what it's worth. If you feel differently, that's fine. I'd appreciate a more distant approach in the future and I'd be glad to debate a similar topic down the road when the posts aren't so attacking.

Closest one to me is .18 miles, elementary school, middle school, and high school all within 3 blocks of each other is lame...but great in terms of walking.

For the guy closest to me, they didnt list what he did and i was kinda curious.

Dolphin Girl,Just wanted to thank you for forwarding that web site!!I I checked it out.Two MONSTERS live only a block away.To make things worse.I live between two grammer schools.1Block away on my left 3 blocks away to my right .I thought these people, excuse me these" MONSTERS" are not aloud to be within certain distance from any school?Anyway I forwarded that site to all of my contacts,email.Thanks for the info.

And Dolphin, you know, "You just made a differance"

The drinks are on me!

P.S. As for that drunk,self serving, fat headed senater,Who I might add, should have been locked up 30 years ago for letting that poor women die under that bridge.He can KMA.

Happy Memorial Day,And Be Safe out there.

God Bless the 101St Mountain Div.

Killer of Killers,Your friendly Neborhood Mechanic.

got me that is awful.... have a sign or something in their front yard stating what their offense is ... that would work for me.. yep.!!

I found 0 sexual offenders....