Spawn Killing, Lets keep the other threads on Topic Options

[little old man]

I started this because it is starting to become annoying for Topics to be taken over by other Topics Want to talk about Spawn killing please do it here. I have learned Spawn killing happens and you must learn to live with it . All players at one time or another get spawn killed the more experience you get the more you learn how to get out of it.In OGL matches you learn to exploit the other fellows area while trying to protect yours its all part of the game.The one time I do have trouble with its when in non match play the teams are uneven like it was mentioned before in the other thread . Remagen is a good map for this .There are 8 axis and 4 allies and the germans are doing a job on the allies in the allies spawn area.Now new players come on and go to the german side this pisses me off.I will ask why they did this some switch most do not.They tell you I always play german or some other crap.

As far as maybe losing future good players because of it the jury is out on that.There are plenty of servers out there for people to choose for a game that suits them.MOB servers are not for the beginner.I like everyone else got my ass handed to me when I first started playing but by going to different servers I learned.They must do the same .Lets let them make up their minds on what they want to do.We must be doing something right because our servers are always full.

I feel we at MOB have done everything possible to make the game more fun for everyone else to play the way they want. So I ask again please leave the other threads to their subject matter if you don't see a title for what you want to say Start ONE

[Kirby]

Good points old man. I appeared on the MOB servers when the MOB guys were pretty well just starting out, and recruiting. At that time spawn killing was a unresolved issue.I recall MOB fellows were not all for it at that time, but down the road I believe they decided since it goes on it has to be accepted as part of the game, as several said here.

Now someone mentioned they do it for " Stats " well, the high stats seem to go to the players who spend more time in these servers playing I noticed, as a large contribution to stat score more than anything. Anyway, I have received the mellon popper award without spawn kills on several occasions, but only because of my connection(usually weekends), I will go sniper and not move as much.

I can see now that in OGL, matchs etc it's a different situation (had no idea). I only go to public servers. My intent of posting the negatives in spawn killing was taken as complaining which is understandable since it is a "touchy" topic.

However I (myself) move quick to avoid spawn deads most of the time and also If it is repetitive , I stay dead, watch the messages up top left and when the spawn killer is dead I pop back in. That is unless it's past 30-45 seconds, then I take my chances and re-spawn. Anyway this subject after almost 2 years later of being introduced still flares up arguments from both points of view.

Over and out.

[Benny Hinn]

Spawn killing = Good times
But so does getting spawn killed and working your way out of it.

Like LOM said, the only time it becomes a problem is when the teams are severely staggered.

[Wassy]

My view on spawn killing:

1. It's fun to do
2. It's crappy if you're the one being killed
3. Feels good if you can figure a way out of the spawn killing zone.

For those who don't like spawn killing, I was on a server a while ago that "boots" players for spawn killing. However, I Didn't like their dictatorial approach so I don't play there anymore.

[Ice_Cold]

I have 4 words

JUST DEAL WITH IT.


I pritty new at this game, I like it alot. I hate to be spawn killed but when its done i try to seek revenge against the person doing it. or i live with it

[KingCobra]

Hate getting spawn killed but part of the game like trying to get out of it when it happens ....thinkfast move faster LOL ...like they say deal with it

[Druid]

I'm amazed people still talk about spawnkilling. It's one of the great buzz words along with camping in most FPS.
I have a very simple answer for anyone who has a problem with spawnkilling.
DON'T PLAY TDM.
If someone doesn't like spawnkilling, they should play round based or objective where it's not an issue.

[H@rley]

The whole idea of TDM is for your team to have more kills then your opponents,and as stated before as long as teams are even anything goes. As far as Remagen goes I have always wondered why the spawn zones don't switch?

[{SOTC}Killem]

Druid Posted on Dec 14 2003, 01:26 AM

[Kirby]

Old man, shame on you for bringing this bad subject up...

Ok a few last points on this subject then we should shut it down for good and get on with game and enjoy. I am assuming that the spawn killing is tolerated, but not encouraged. After all we have the "Stats" laid out as to what types of kills account for what. I see even " bashing " kills are given awards.

So.. why are there no awards for "Spawn Killing?", after all some here are very proud they do it. Some boast here. But I don't see anyone after the game commenting " Hey I just got 18 spawn kills !!! " (because you may as well be saying " Hey I killed off 18 guys before they could move and have a chance to fight")

Some say you have to have the skills to prevent it. Well I have never heard of the guy appearing as a spawn being killed able to get the guy doing it unless he appears elsewhere on the map later. it is usually another team member getting the spawn killer.

In fact when someone accuses someone of spawn killing (which Websters Dictionary calls " Not letting the opposite player appear in the game ") The person accused gets quite upset and tells the other to be quiet (in nice terms) because he does not want the others to know what he is doing no doubt.

The end product is: No one brags about spawn killing, and there are no stats accounting for that type of kill. It would be interesting to see stats minus spawn kills however.

Anyway lets end this thread there Druid. ps: Websters has no defination.

GOOD GOING TO THE AMERICANS FOR CAPTURING SADDAM TODAY !

[Panzer]

[Kirby]

Intestinal? to kill someone as they appear in game? good point. I will let them keep appearing, I still prefer a " clean kill " I enjoy it more. Panzer I never looked at you as a spawn killer, in fact I can't recall you spawn killing me, unless on rare occasion. I guess I just move too quick for spawn killers :P . TK? well only the one spawn killed would know who your talking too no one else on game. I see your point however it does account for stats page even though its not marked as a spawn kill.

[={DMG}=WaRgAsMaTrOn]

If you dont want to be spawn killed...I would suggest playing OBJ.
In TDM...I look at the battle as companies of soldiers on either side attacking simutaniously at a target...such as the real battle for Stalingrad in WWll .There are points where the fighting is most fierce and the spawning is just the continuation of more and more soldiers coming to the front lines of a seiged area.
The spawn lockdown is effectively a heavily defended area that you must breakthrough.YOU DO have to be patient and fight your way out of those situations, and I agree it does make you a better player. Sometimes it takes only 1 guy in the proper position to hold down a spawn area until his reinforcements come as well, and then really make it tough on you to get out. It is your "teams"job to knock them off and find a way out....or simply die trying. In battle...you cannot say...."hang on a sec while I run over here and get set up to kill you k" and think it will go over well.
Just my 2 bits on Spawn killing...and hey...I think EVERYONE has done it and would do it if they had the chance to LOL .
I dont like waiting for the other guy to kill me.
~WaR~

[realdeal]

I agree with Panzer. When people tell me I spawn killed them, I say thank you.
And BTW Kirby - I spawn kill any chance I get, and I am proud of it.




My name is RealDeal.... and I'm a spawn killer.

[realdeal]

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