Toronto terror 'plot'... 6pak - comments?, Large terror cell recently busted Options

[Hellfighter]

Apparently a London terror style plot targeting various Toronto/Ontario objectives was foiled. No time to comment in depth on it myself.
Perhaps 6pak [with her regional/work experience] can add some of her thoughts on the topic?

[Hellfighter]

We do send monsters back for the death penalty;
Google up Charles Ng and his monstrosities, see how he fled across the border into Alberta [?] and was caught by chance... then our government came to terms with the fact that it would indeed be wise to send him back to California to face justice and thankfully the death penalty not to mention give great sighs of relief to the loved ones of the multiple victims of this vermin. It occurred however only after lengthy debate and the swaying point was the issue of by letting him stay here, other vile law breakers could come up in Canada [even flock here perhaps]to live out their natural days.

I disagree on the uniform issue. First the 'go back to their country' term has nothing to do with their religious beliefs. Natural born Canadians can be of a variety of religions. Saying you see a different point of view other than an opinion that might offend someone hardly is about being scared you'll be called a racist- it's simply someone else having a different viewpoint- naturally there may indeed be a small percentage on either side who are indeed racist or even scared to be called racist, but generally most people will argue out their points without fear. I don't think you're racist for your viewpoints which I do respect. It's like someone who hates Bush's policies being called a Bush hater and having no actual opinions on Bush's 'leadership'.
I was in Toronto in the 1970s/80s and several somewhat 'raging' debates flared up occasionally regarding police 'uniformity'. There was the issue of female inclusion ; their duties/uniforms capabilities.... there was the issue of minimal height requirement being amended when a south-east asian was denied inclusion into the police force because gentically people of his culture were several inches shorter than the average Westerner's height. The general public were consumed with fear at how any change to the current physique standards would be the end of everything. Then the most famous case at that time was a fellow who had a 'hat issue' when he joined the RCMP.

At first I was against the idea along with the majority but I changed my opinion as the wheels of democratic debate and discussion kicked in... The main argument being how do these issues affect the performance of those who wish to dedicate their lives to serving their society? A major human trait is to resist change during complacency. Since this Sikh won the lifting of the turban ban in the RCMP all has not gone to hell in that elite contingent of law enforcement. In 1974 a dress code alteration [pardon the pun] was made in the RCMP regarding female officers. To me such debates are similar to those resistors of gays and females in the military /fighting roles. I feel like sticking a karate kick through my television when I hear resistors saying such an 'idea' won't/doesn't work. One of my side researches are females fighting in wars throughout history, in particular if one reads up on their fighting distinction in the Sovier Army in WW2 there'd be no need to discuss a female's desire to be on the front line on the ground. Same with gays; they've been fighting in armies forever, why ban them just because they become 'known'!

To me inclusion of cultures in a democracy defines what seperates us from the anti-democracy nations. It says progression as opposed to stagnation and regression. Those cultures are backwards thinking - a few weeks ago in Iraq[?] , 2 Iraqi guys were murdered because they wore shorts! Someting to do with a monkey-brained [imo] Sharia law being broken. People aren't flocking to immigrate to those countries. Unfortunately not enough 'middle-class joes' and their families are let into Canada some upset with immigration to get a real appreciation for seeing first-hand the similarities of foreign hard workers with similar life ambitions. Priority is given to the very wealthy or very hard up. We have the laws in place to deal with immigrant evil-doers and send them back to their countries, but like most government departments in many Western nations, the process is drawn out and backed up.

In Canada we should appreciate how our system discusses social ideas, and much more often than not the radical/dangerous ideas are indeed done away with.... and personally, if I had a kid I wouldn't want them sitting in class next to anyone with a dagger; as for turbans in the ranks... the sun will rise tomorrow and everything will grind along again normally.

I just don't understand how you can choose to live somewhere and then fight to change the laws of the place you chose to live. It just doesn't make sense to me.

ps. Not to defend those that seek chaotic law changes [like the extreme Muslims fighting to have women with veils not being required to take them off for license ids!!!] but natural born folks in democratic nations occasionally seek to amend Laws - especially the outdated ones.

I hate what we are becoming, we are forgetting our liberty and our roots to make immigrant feel more like they are in their own country!

Just about every wave of immigrants [ irish to south american to whatever] in our young nation has been bashed at some point often along the lines of 'what we are becoming'. This is definately nothing new and you'd be hard-pressed to define what real Canadian roots are... aboriginal, French, British??... the majority of Canadians are a mixed bag culturally but generally think of Canada first. Most immigrants are coming here to start a new life...it's just more apparent that those that don't, make the headlines [imo].




This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 06/16/06 4:19am