Toronto terror 'plot'... 6pak - comments?, Large terror cell recently busted Options

[Hellfighter]

Apparently a London terror style plot targeting various Toronto/Ontario objectives was foiled. No time to comment in depth on it myself.
Perhaps 6pak [with her regional/work experience] can add some of her thoughts on the topic?

[Wotansvolk]

I like what you say 6pak, you never ear it though on television or in any media cause people are scared to be called racist!! Here in Quebec the education minister a couple of years ago made our school non-catholic took out all the crucifix from the classroom! But last year a sikh(the religion) boy was allowed to wear his kirpan at school http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan

Hey we don't want him to feel bad cause he can't bring his object of cult at school!
Another thing in montreal last year some muslim people asked to be able to aply their own law the sharia!! And believe it or not some people studied the possibility of giving them these right.....can you believe some canadian would have accept some immigrant to apply their own law!!

I hate what we are becoming, we are forgetting our liberty and our roots to make immigrant feel more like they are in their own country! Sorry... like 6pak said you're in my country you go by my rules you don't like it go back !!! As for the immigrant breaking our rules or making crimes.....don't put them in jail we are paying for people that are in jail i'd rather give him a one way ticket to his original country!!

That was my opinion!!
C ya!

[Stickman]

I hate what we are becoming, we are forgetting our liberty and our roots to make immigrant feel more like they are in their own country! Sorry... like 6pak said you're in my country you go by my rules you don't like it go back !!!

It always makes me laugh when people say that in the name of liberty, we must limit the behaviour of others.

Liberty means you can live however you like, unless there is a damn good societal reason why you should be prevented from doing so. An immigrant wants to live in a "Ghetto" with others of his nationality? Well, it's a free country! IMHO, it makes a city much more interesting and vital when different neighbourhoods have different ethnic flavors. I've always considered that one of the few redeeming features of Toronto.
Besides, I guarantee you that if you ever move to a nation with a seriously different culture, you'll be damn tempted to find a "Canadian ghetto" where you can get a bit of respite from the culture shock.

Wotan, in MY country (Canada), the rules are that we respect the cultural and religious differences of our residents, even if they aren't of european extraction. We are a cultural mosaic. If you want a melting pot, move a couple of hundred miles south.

From that perspective, it seems obvious that respecting a sihks cultural and religious beliefs regarding his turban outweigh the trivial desire to see all the police wearing the same hat.

It seems obvious that if a significant number of students are required by their religion to pray 5 times a day, it would be a good idea to set aside an area for them to do so undisturbed.

It also seems obvious that there are limits to this. Canada has a charter of rights and freedoms, and a body of laws. This trumps an individuals cultural and religious values. Equality among the sexes is well established in canadian law, and Sharia law violates this, so, IMO, should not be allowed. But by all means, if someone disagrees, they should feel free to protest and lobby for a change. That's freedom at work.

We are very lucky in Canada (and the US) that, as nations of immigrants, assimilation is an option. Here, with very few exceptions, the children of immigrants grow up to be mainstream, assimilated Canadians. In europe, there's more of a catch-22 situation. Immigrants are criticised if they don't try to assimilate. However, even if they make every effort to adopt the culture of their new homes, they will never be accepted. My brother lives in Holland, and tells me that even a 3rd or 4th generation citizen will not be regarded as dutch if their skin is dark. Many people have told him that he is "the right kind of immigrant" (white) so the criticisms they have for dark skinned immigrants do not apply to him.