Toronto terror 'plot'... 6pak - comments?, Large terror cell recently busted Options

[Hellfighter]

Apparently a London terror style plot targeting various Toronto/Ontario objectives was foiled. No time to comment in depth on it myself.
Perhaps 6pak [with her regional/work experience] can add some of her thoughts on the topic?

[Wotansvolk]

You should'nt say christianity is the worst violator but "was".

My point of saying that your not free is in response of someone saying that we are in a free country.....i'll repeat your freedom end were the freedom of others start.

There is some soldier in Iraq it havent been made official and there's not a lot of them! And it might be an error to always work against the us decision like the liberal party have been doing! Don't forget US represent a big part of our exportation.

I don't know enough muslim to say nearly all of them are good, from what i see in Iraq good muslim don't help military or police by telling them were radical believer are hiding!

Did i ever talked about invading country??? No­.I talked about preventing in our own country. The point is i don't like getting political refugee....you have to bring something to canada to be accept i don't care if you have put yourself in a dangerous position in your own country!!

LOL yeah i know the definition af anarchy boy......read my first point right here for the explanation of why i said that!
I hate to have to explain myself in english i'm missing words lol!!
But i try my best. Don't try to make me look like a racist guy i'm not racist but i'm very concern of the safety of my country....did you know that every year we lose some temporary immigrant in the nature? they just disapear!

Cya my Chummy Oh You!!!

[Hellfighter]

You should'nt say christianity is the worst violator but "was".

My point of saying that your not free is in response of someone saying that we are in a free country.....i'll repeat your freedom end were the freedom of others start.

There is some soldier in Iraq it havent been made official and there's not a lot of them! And it might be an error to always work against the us decision like the liberal party have been doing! Don't forget US represent a big part of our exportation.

I don't know enough muslim to say nearly all of them are good, from what i see in Iraq good muslim don't help military or police by telling them were radical believer are hiding!

Did i ever talked about invading country??? No­.I talked about preventing in our own country. The point is i don't like getting political refugee....you have to bring something to canada to be accept i don't care if you have put yourself in a dangerous position in your own country!!

LOL yeah i know the definition af anarchy boy......read my first point right here for the explanation of why i said that!
I hate to have to explain myself in english i'm missing words lol!!
But i try my best. Don't try to make me look like a racist guy i'm not racist but i'm very concern of the safety of my country....did you know that every year we lose some temporary immigrant in the nature? they just disapear!

Cya my Chummy Oh You!!!

He never said you were a racist... several of your points seem radical and not focused on violators and with using draconian tactics that unfairly 'label' others as undesirable to be potential citizens.
No you don't HAVE to bring something into Canada to be accepted... Foremost is they'll show the potential to be a very good citizen. > its not all about being rich, or even have a great job - many highly skilled immigants will tell you they have to wait years before they can pursue their former high level jobs since they must re-do exams and sometimes start once again from the bottom up.
Political refugees show outside of our comparably comfortable lifestyle in Canada, people in other horrible parts of the world are bravely standing up for their basic human rights. Maybe you don't care about it, but because our society generally does care, countless numbers of foreigners fleeing torture or execution merely for politically speaking against their government's values are shown there is hope and safety somewhere!
God bless them for resisting their evil governments oppression and how they risked their lives or a long stay in a horrid jail in order to start the seeds of civilised living in their society and/or bravely attempt to live in some small way how we in Our Free country enjoy and take it for granted.

There are a few 'democratic' nations that have/do take in former dictators seeking refuge because they have stolen fortunes to make them 'desirable'. No, for me, I love that our country is doing the right thing in accepting political refugees who bring only the shirts on their back and broken dreams of freedom in their place of birth.

It's wimpy to say we should 'go along' with the US policy simply because they our our economic cousins.
Everyone here has the freedom to say they like or don't like another countries policy. Take a look at the American polls>>> Less than 40% of Americans approve with Bush's current role as President. In other words don't think all Americans are backing the President or how he handled post-fall-of-Baghdad Iraq. He maybe the US President but that doesn't mean what he and his neo-con buddies are currently doing is what the entire United States believe in.

My country = Our country.... other citizens here have their own version of how our society can function without alienating ourselves. Globally Canada is much respected and envied BECAUSE of our policy of fair inclusion across a broad spectrum of people. You can't define where 'our freedom begins'> that's solely your idea. My idea of freedom involves a progression of human thinking and sharing that idea globally not just within our borders and to those with enough $$$ to get in....

As for informants... you can bet that's what's keeping northern and southern Iraq generally safe. The people there generally trust each other and are largely on good terms with the security forces in those zones- therefore the fear of reprisals is very low for informing. Central Iraq is the Insugency fortress. Informing must be near-suicidal if not proceeded with fully secure and smartly. There is the very real risk of losing your entire family if you are found out to be an informant. It must be very horrible since the Iraqis in that area would like nothing better than to rat out the bombers that are blowing up dozens of their friends and family each week. Many Iraqis are very brave and get a few insurgents taken out through giving valued information but new terrorists come in fast, so you must assume there is a general mentality of complying won't change the status quo and the risk is too great when there is obviously not the comfort of knowing you can feel safe going to bed at night after informing. We can't compare our system to theirs and think such decisions seem logical. It'd be nice if they had a anonymous phoneline like Crimestoppers or America's Most Wanted but its more complicated than that, isn't it, mon chum ?


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 06/20/06 9:49am