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post 10/29/06 1:23pm
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What's the win ratio on Barb now-in-days. I bet Russian out-wins German 2-1 at this point. With all pak shots know, and Russkies having far more, the map has become unbalanced IMO, but would like to know real stats. Are there any?





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post 10/31/06 12:29pm
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MOD,

I think your wrong. You can use any tank at any part of the map just about to cover or hit any base. I even was firing on G3 with a popcorn tank yesterday. I was in with Rommel tesing the map and discovered we could do it. The bottom line is does your teammates have the time to study where and how the tanks and paks fire goes.

I am positive I can use the P3 or P4 from German spawn to open any base and fire on any base of the Russians. The thing is to study it and figure it out.

The key to the Germans I believe is still the rush to their 1 and heavy hitting their 3 from there. The german tanks are just about unstoppable for the Russians with that tactic. Once you take out the Russian heavy near the minefield, its a field day for the Germans.

In my opinion, its all tactics and who is on what team. The extra paks that the Russians can use only evens out the Tank advantage that the Germans have.


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post 10/31/06 10:01pm
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QUOTE(Nothing @ 10/31/06 1:29pm) *
MOD,

I think your wrong. You can use any tank at any part of the map just about to cover or hit any base. I even was firing on G3 with a popcorn tank yesterday. I was in with Rommel tesing the map and discovered we could do it. The bottom line is does your teammates have the time to study where and how the tanks and paks fire goes.

I am positive I can use the P3 or P4 from German spawn to open any base and fire on any base of the Russians. The thing is to study it and figure it out.

The key to the Germans I believe is still the rush to their 1 and heavy hitting their 3 from there. The german tanks are just about unstoppable for the Russians with that tactic. Once you take out the Russian heavy near the minefield, its a field day for the Germans.

In my opinion, its all tactics and who is on what team. The extra paks that the Russians can use only evens out the Tank advantage that the Germans have.




With all due respect Nothing, you are perhaps the ultimate "Russian only" player, so your opinions on this seem more based on theory than practice. I play a lot for both sides, and if you put two experienced players on Russian and two on German, then Russians have the advantage, plain and simple. Germans can take the hill at R1, but they are open to be attacked too, and the beauty for Russian is that while you can back them into a corner, at least their best base is in the same corner with a pak behind it. And while it's true Germans have some pak shots, they can all be neutrilized by Russian paks shots in an instant which is what happenes when they have any expeirienced player, unlike Russian paks which are safe from pak shots...at least, the ones used to cover base plants, their two middle paks.



But you know, the original question was IS THERE ANY STATS?


Finally, look at this screen shot from last night. A few MOBS on German, and we totally dominated Russian...BUT we could not plant 3 successfully over 2 games. Switch those teams around, and Russian would have beat German in 10 minutes flat.

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[quote name='M@ster of Dis@ster' date='10/31/06 10:01pm' post='129629'] [quote name='Nothing' post='129578' date='10/31/06 1:29pm'] MOD,

Finally, look at this screen shot from last night. A few MOBS on German, and we totally dominated Russian...BUT we could not plant 3 successfully over 2 games. Switch those teams around, and Russian would have beat German in 10 minutes flat. [/quote]



Well, we didn't get them(all 3 bases) as Russians either....

-->several vets on both teams, and it often ends up in a tie or point win at time limit.



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M@ster of Dis@ster   Barb balance???   10/29/06 1:23pm
Cpt.Canuck   Surely those VSP stats have that recorded somewher...   10/29/06 2:44pm
T/A6Pak   It's because the majority of the pro's lik...   10/29/06 3:19pm
Meowman   It's because the majority of the pro's li...   10/29/06 3:36pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   It's because the majority of the pro's li...   10/29/06 4:11pm
Rommel   Hi MoD. I agreed that the Russian team take advant...   10/30/06 4:03am
The-Blind-Norwegian   Hi MoD. I agreed that the Russian team take advan...   10/30/06 5:15am
Rommel   Hi MoD. I agreed that the Russian team take adva...   10/30/06 7:19am
HammaTime   The exact same issue comes up with Italy on the St...   10/30/06 8:35am
Nothing   I like the PPsh more than the MP44. Thats why I u...   10/30/06 11:36am
M@ster of Dis@ster   I like the PPsh more than the MP44. Thats why I u...   10/30/06 7:23pm
Rommel   I like the PPsh more than the MP44. Thats why I ...   10/31/06 4:12am
Spectre   Guys win Barbarossa first started up the Germans o...   10/30/06 10:30pm
Blinky   This has been more likely the result on Barb nowad...   10/31/06 8:36am
The-Blind-Norwegian   :D Notice anything special on ss?? ;) : Hatc...   10/31/06 9:09am
Nothing   MOD, I think your wrong. You can use any tank at...   10/31/06 12:29pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   MOD, I think your wrong. You can use any tank at...   10/31/06 10:01pm
Rommel   MOD, I think your wrong. You can use any tank a...   11/01/06 3:48am
The-Blind-Norwegian   [quote name='Nothing' post='129578...   11/01/06 4:02am
MyWifesMule   Blinky, I don't know what ss means but did not...   10/31/06 12:31pm
Nothing   OMG Germans have no points/kills and Russians have...   10/31/06 12:37pm
Blinky   Blinky, I don't know what ss means but did no...   10/31/06 12:40pm
Lord Lipton   no, only hatchet came in somewhat late if i can re...   10/31/06 1:44pm
Nothing   no, only hatchet came in somewhat late if i can r...   10/31/06 2:31pm
Lord Lipton   i was second to my buddy m1 pollux. i think its th...   10/31/06 4:44pm
Assault trooperPolska   I agree that the ruskies seem to have advantage, f...   10/31/06 5:33pm
Hellfighter   Put me on a team -rusky or jerries-with 3 guys in ...   10/31/06 6:41pm
Meowman   Put me on a team -rusky or jerries-with 3 guys in...   10/31/06 7:13pm
Assault trooperPolska   Put me on a team -rusky or jerries-with 3 guys in...   10/31/06 9:16pm
Meowman   Put me on a team -rusky or jerries-with 3 guys i...   10/31/06 9:28pm
Cpt.Canuck   lol, Nothing have you ever played on the German si...   11/01/06 10:00am
Nothing   Hey MOD, That screenie you have shows some good p...   11/01/06 10:10am
M@ster of Dis@ster   Hey MOD, That screenie you have shows some good ...   11/01/06 2:25pm
Angus Thermopyle   Finally, we were all n00bs once, so I'm gett...   11/03/06 9:14am
majorhavoc   Finally, we were all n00bs once, so I'm get...   11/03/06 1:33pm
Angus Thermopyle   [quote name='Angus Thermopyle' post='129846' date...   11/03/06 1:48pm
Hellfighter   ... I agree, but noobs can at least listen to pl...   11/10/06 9:36am
majorhavoc   Problem with that series of games (I came in at...   11/01/06 10:33am
Nothing   Hey Major, I completely agree. I get so pissed w...   11/01/06 11:00am
Nothing   You would have to have a couple binds together. O...   11/03/06 5:48pm
Canadian Viper   I have to agree that the paks on the russin side r...   11/03/06 6:41pm
Spectre   Lately the mob guys have started to switch to germ...   11/10/06 10:04am
Lord Lipton   if your quick you can beat the ppsh sprayers (whic...   11/10/06 10:20am
M@ster of Dis@ster   You should aim down the barrel with a PPSH. It put...   11/10/06 11:24am
Lord Lipton   You should aim down the barrel with a PPSH. It pu...   11/10/06 11:29am
Nothing   Thats why I hit G3 with the Russian heavy next to ...   11/10/06 11:54am
Lord Lipton   yes, if i ever have a satchel thats of course what...   11/10/06 12:11pm


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