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I -YOUS -TO- PLAY- BARBAROSA - BUT -STOPED- PLAYING- IT- BECOS- OF- PACK -GUNS -HITING- BASSES -AS- I -THOT- IT -WASENT- FAIR- AS- THIS- IS -BASS- ASALT- NOT- BOMBARDMENT -FROM- THE- UTHER -SIDE- OF -THE -MAP- SO- I -STOPED- GOING -TO- BARBAROSSA- TO- PLAY- THEN -WHEN- YOU- STARTED -UP- THE -FORIST -I -CAME- BACK- TO PLAY- AND- I -HAVE -PLAYED -IT- QUITE- A- LOT- AS -YOUS -NO- BECOS- I- THOT- IT- WAS -A -GOOD- MAP- AND -LOVE -PLAYING -IT -NOW- IT -SEMS- ITS- GOING -THE -SAME- WAY- AS- BARBAROSSA -WITH -PLAYERS -YOUSING -TANKS -TO -BLOW -THE -BASSES -FROM -THE- UTHER -SIDE- OF -THE -MAP -IS -THER- ENNYTHING -YOUS- CAN- DOO- TO- STOP- THIS -AS- I -FEAL- ITS -NOT- RIGHT -TO- DOO -THIS- MABE -YOUS -THINK- IM- BEING- SILLY- BUT- I -JUST- FEAL -THE -GAME- IS -BASS -ASAULT- AND- YOU -HAVE -TO -ASSALT- THE- BASS- NOT- BOMBARD- IT- WITH -TANKS- OR -PACK- GUNS -FROM -THE -UTHER- SIDE- OF- THE -MAP.



I AM -A -SNIPER- AND -LOVE -SNIPING -BUT- I ALSO -LOVE- BASSASOLT -AND- I -PROBABELY- WOOD- HAVE -WONTED -TO -JOYEN- [MOB] IF- I- WASENT- ALREADY -A- SNIPER -SO- PLEAS -CAN YOUS- DOO -SUMTHING- TO- STOP- THIS- FROM -GOING -THE- SAME- WAY- AS- BARBBAEOSSA.



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You know Jimmy, you bring up a very good point...one of which has been, and continues to be a topic in the forums here on a monthly basis. (approximately)



I have to side with you to a certain degree, as the long range shelling definitely changes the dynamics and the strategies of classic base assault. I have played a few rounds of Barb lately, and I tell you, I don't enjoy it as much as I used to simply because of the "pac attack" and the "tank terror from afar". It always starts the same way (on Barb) as the German 2 and 3 bases immediately come under long range attack with the Russian bases sitting quietly until someone can maneuver a tank into position and hit them, or drive to within "eyeball range" and take them down. (There's already a thread about this so I won't go into detail here) Ultimately, it is the plant that counts, however if you cannot defend against the long range shelling and open up your opponents bases at nearly the same time as yours are peeled, you will lose...nothing new here. Add to this a mix of new players with absolutely no idea how all of this works and the once fun and challenging Barb experience is now a futile exercise in base camping/defending and countless bases lost from long range pac cover with no way to counter. I digress.



Yes, I realize that all of this sort of thing is legal in game play, and yes I believe it is typical human nature to find shortcuts that improve the outcome of situations and I salute those with much more time than I, that are willing to go to the expense of time and money to spend hours determining long range positions that will ultimately bring rewards in the form of a victory on a video game (that's why we play it, right?). True, this is the same thought process that is employed in daily life whether you load trucks for a living or plan the next global conflict..but, it is too bad that it leads to lop-sided victories due to team stacking and other unfortunate events that somehow ruins the excitement and takes away from gameplay as bases are opened from some remote location halfway across the map. I believe this sort of play now requires the average player who enjoys coming in for a quick round or two, or even the regular player that just enjoys "playing" and does not possess a degree in engineering and physics, now has to devote more time and effort just to be competitive and instead of playing for fun, that person is now having to "work" at it just to keep one's head above water, so to speak, to remain competitive.



On the other hand, progress is generally seen as a good thing and it is interesting to note that people will always seek to find an advantage over competition. But in the process of gaining an edge, something is lost and it is never the same again. That is ALWAYS the case, no matter what the point of discussion might be.



So, Jimmy, I know exactly what you are saying and there is really little to be done to alter what thousands of years of evolution (case in point) can do to stop mankind and his incessant drive to overcome adversity (Not that we would want to if we could). However, in this case and perhaps on other maps as well, things could be changed up a bit as to keep people thinking and moving forward by, perhaps, changing the physical properties of maps. Move the pacs, or do away with one or two. Put trees in spots so tanks cannot be placed there to shell long range. Maybe a few, slight modifications could be employed to freshen up the maps and route players in new directions to keep a somewhat level playing field while, at the same time, inviting innovative imaginations to raise the level of gameplay without leaving everyone else behind.



Certainly there are MANY sides to this issue and I can see all of them very clearly. I only write this to share in Jimmy's disappointment and put forth an idea that may keep the forest from going in the direction that Barb has gone, in that it is still a popular map for most, but it definitely lost something that cannot be regained for others.