Time for a History Lesson, Immigration Options

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The Roman Empire was inarguably the greatest civilization of antiquity.It took nearly a thousand years for the world to recover from the fall of the Roman Civilization.A fall that is traditionally dated A.D.476.The fall occurred for many reasons,but most of the direct blame lies in the migration and toleration of hostile Germanic Tribes out of Eastern Europe.These tribes penetrated the unsecured borders of the Roman Empire and settled deep within Roman lands.Over time,since the Romans felt that they could not successfully boot these invaders out,the Tribes were allowed to stay in the Empire.Many even joined the Roman Army and were given the authority (not always officially) to enforce their own laws and preserve their seperate cultures,and for a large part did not assimilate into the greater Roman Culture.By A.D.476,The Western half of the Empire was overrun by various Eastern Tribes and the land was Roman in name only.In that year,one of these Tribes,the Visigoths,sacked the Eternal City of Rome,a city which had not been touched by outside invaders for 800 years.Through there was not much left of the Western Empire by that point,it is the fall of the City of Rome to the Visigoths that has traditionally symbolized the destruction of the once great Roman Empire.In the end,the greatest civilization know to man was brought down by illegal immigrants that were granted amnesty.

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no way an invisble line is going to stop someone from a better life, or the hope of one. What makes them want to come to America? All I have seen is pointing fingers and blaming when the real problem is millions of 'mexicans' among others are living in squaller conditions and have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to loose.

Americans can't EVEN get Americans to clean up after a disaster, and the illegals/immigrants see this as the opportunity to work and provide food their family. There-in lies the disparity of the situation and the problem.

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Pez, the fact your cousin didn't have the health insurance she needed has nothing to do with providing healthcare to someone else, but this somehow an illegal immigration problem? I just don't understand the connection frankly.
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What is the real demographic of illegal immigrants? How do they contribute, what role do they play in society? What percentage have been given a real opportunity at education or to come clean, or even treated fairly by prospective employers, what percentage were incarcerated for gang related activity? What percentage go without any dental or medial care? You know I bet 90% if offered would JUMP at the opportunity to become citizens and are hard working good people like the rest of us.

Instead of trying to understand and solve the problem all that has been done is the demonification of them, ALL of them unfairly. Sounds like persecution to me. I AM NOT defending those that abuse the system or those that don't stand up like men.

I grasp the situation to a certain degree, I just suggested that you look to find solutions. This is no different that other mass migrations of other peoples. I don't know all the details of what is happening in southern florida... but I can tell you that my buddies kid goes to school in toronto. In her school in the paper recently documented that over 57 nationalities were represented in that school! And we are not without our issues as well.