Time for a History Lesson, Immigration Options

[PFC Mustangman]

The Roman Empire was inarguably the greatest civilization of antiquity.It took nearly a thousand years for the world to recover from the fall of the Roman Civilization.A fall that is traditionally dated A.D.476.The fall occurred for many reasons,but most of the direct blame lies in the migration and toleration of hostile Germanic Tribes out of Eastern Europe.These tribes penetrated the unsecured borders of the Roman Empire and settled deep within Roman lands.Over time,since the Romans felt that they could not successfully boot these invaders out,the Tribes were allowed to stay in the Empire.Many even joined the Roman Army and were given the authority (not always officially) to enforce their own laws and preserve their seperate cultures,and for a large part did not assimilate into the greater Roman Culture.By A.D.476,The Western half of the Empire was overrun by various Eastern Tribes and the land was Roman in name only.In that year,one of these Tribes,the Visigoths,sacked the Eternal City of Rome,a city which had not been touched by outside invaders for 800 years.Through there was not much left of the Western Empire by that point,it is the fall of the City of Rome to the Visigoths that has traditionally symbolized the destruction of the once great Roman Empire.In the end,the greatest civilization know to man was brought down by illegal immigrants that were granted amnesty.

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[UNDEAD 1]

please dont buy into the fact "they all pick cotton,fruit and do labor jobs that no one wants either,theres alot of jobs these guys are doing such as waiters (which is getting cracked down on) landscapers ,roofers ,drywall , concrete etc and down here that is huuuuge money ,huge. infact i dont know of many lettuce fields in florida ,hehe. seriously ,dont make them pay a back bill ,get them registered and and get them paying and if you dont have a job ,no benefits !

[M@ster of Dis@ster]

please dont buy into the fact "they all pick cotton,fruit and do labor jobs that no one wants either,theres alot of jobs these guys are doing such as waiters (which is getting cracked down on) landscapers ,roofers ,drywall , concrete etc and down here that is huuuuge money ,huge. infact i dont know of many lettuce fields in florida ,hehe. seriously ,dont make them pay a back bill ,get them registered and and get them paying and if you dont have a job ,no benefits !

I'm not American, so correct this if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that be the point of the Amnesty? To make them "legal" so they can be accounted for and pay their taxes, and claim their legit benefits?

Anyway, I live in a part of Canada that is pretty much isolated from all this stuff. White and Christian sums up about 99+% of the population. So I admit, I don't know what it's like. I do know that it is nice that you'll never meet anyone who doesn't understand the language perfectly.

[Hellfighter]

....Anyway, I live in a part of Canada that is pretty much isolated from all this stuff. White and Christian sums up about 99+% of the population. So I admit, I don't know what it's like. I do know that it is nice that you'll never meet anyone who doesn't understand the language perfectly.

Actually MoD my chum,you don't know what you're missing by not getting to know how other people are living/lived in other parts of the world. So saying 'its nice never to meet' isn't really an accurate statement. I'm an english speaking resident in Quebec -speaking broken french in Quebec, and the locals don't hold back from treating me as if they've known me for years,+ sometimes local women who are happy to have met you give you cheek kisses after knowing you for only 10 minutes -in front of their hubbies!
Folks from other parts of the world can give you an excellent perspectives of how good or bad things were/are in their homelands of origins and you'll find its quite the eye-opener- better than 'nice' if you hear some of the most intriguing stories they have to tell- even if in not so perfect english.

Which leads me to point out why one would risk becoming an illegal worker if you had almost zero chance of better-ing your life if the opportunities were just a border away. The reasons are broad,complex, and differ widely.
The problem aren't illegal immigrants who WORK HARD AND DESIRE TO CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY AS A GOOD NORMAL CITIZEN -some of which end up creating businesses that hire more employees/generate more income in the economy/which results in extra cash for uncle sam [or some other democratic government in the same vein]. The problems are illegal immigrants that are sponges and loafers much like those citizens who are naturally-born in the USA or other favoured country and who are scammers and steal legally/illegally from their fellow citizens.

It's easy to lump people into whole groups and bash them, but that's unsophisticated and unfair and reflects a dimwit's thinking if they can't see there are very good humans caught up in bad circumstances not of their own making and who earnestly desire to do well in life and mean no harm to others.

Right now the world is ripping apart as those who live and preach zero intolerance to 'non-believers' are waging suicidal war against the forces of democracy and free-will. Let's remember which side of the war we are on by not adopting the ideals of hatred and indifference by the zealots. All there is, is good people and bad people in my opinion....


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 07/14/07 9:57am