Clinton lovers, More dirty laundry? Options

[THE Mechanic]

Ok..

I received this E-mail letter from my girlfriends mom.

Her dad served in the Korean war,remember that one,ya the forgotten one.

Anyway if this is viewed as Right- wing propaganda sorry about that, But if this is true,Well i'll let you be the judge.

Here is some stuff
you don't see to often...
BILL CLINTON's
MILITARY CAREER <<<<<<<<< (Grit your teeth before
you read this!)
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on
September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for
the draft. Selective Service Number is 3 26 46 228.

Bill Clinton classified 2-S
on November 17, 1964.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20,
1968 .
Bill Clinton ordered
to report for induction on July 28, 1969.
Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted
into the milit ary.
Bill
Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on
August 07, 1969,
under
authority of COL. E. Holmes.
Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of
enlistment. Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the
University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1- A on October 30, 1969 ,
as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and
Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a)
registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction.

Bill Clinton's birth date
lottery number is 311, drawn December 1,
1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to
report for induction is INELIGIBLE!
Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a
fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.
Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General
(1976), while a fugitive from justice.
Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 ,
from President Carter.
Bill
Clinton becomes the FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of
the United States .
All these facts come from Freedom of Information
requests, public laws, and various books that have been published,&nb sp;
and have not been refuted by Clinton .
After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President
Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and
punished.
After the
1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S.
military personnel, Clinton promised that those
responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi
Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel, Clinton
promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1998 bombing of
U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000, Cl inton
promised that those responsible would be hunted down and
punished.
After the
2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S.
sailors, Clinton promised that those responsiblewould be hunted down and
punished.
Maybe if Clinton
had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington,
DC. who are now dead would be alive today.
THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of
events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forthcoming memoir. Bill
gets about $12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two
people who spent 8 years being unable to recall anything about past events
while under oath.

Sincerely, Cdr. Hamilton McWhorter USN
(ret)

P.S.
Please forward this to as many people as you can! We don't want this
woman to even
THINK of
running for President!

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If that Women becomes our new "Elpresidente" you Canucksters may very well wake one morning with a new neighbor..His name.. "The Mechanic" And you can take that to the bank.I better start packing just in case..LOL..



[size="2"]"T.M."

[Midnight Rambler]

Is Bill Clinton runnibg for office? It seems unfair to try and smear Hillary for something Bill might or might not have done.

If you want to talk about dodging the draft, Clinton couldn't hold a candle to Bush Jr. The drunken, drug addled idiot that couldn't be bothered to finish his enlistment. What about Mr. Deferment himself Dick(and I do mean dick) Cheney?

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

If you want to talk about dodging the draft, Clinton couldn't hold a candle to Bush Jr. The drunken, drug addled idiot that couldn't be bothered to finish his enlistment. What about Mr. Deferment himself Dick(and I do mean dick) Cheney?

What? Clinton dodged service all together. W actaully served as a reserve! How does that make him worse than Bill!?!?! Too funny!



Bill was only in it for personal egoism and self satisfaction. He did not push much of Hillary's or Gore's agenda. Was too afraid people would turn against him and not like him. That is very important to Bill.

However, Hillary has a clear and strong socialist agenda. Remember her govermnet controlled healthcare plan while Bill was President. I agree 100%. She should not be judges by anything her husband did. She can be judged by her reactions to what her husband did though. Regardless, I believe she would push many socialist type programs into this country that I personally do not feel would be healthy for our country and families.



She most likely will win the Dem nomination. But she has a huge probelm in getting the roughly 50% of the population that does not like her, to vote for her. She has an opportunity to turn that aroud in the debates and, unless she's and idiot (I don't believe that) she will practice and practice and practice to keep her temper down and appear likeable.



I take exception to Hellfighter suggesting Obama could beat a Rep. I can't see Obama having enough credibility and experience to beat a Guliani, Thompson, or any of the top Rep. The only reason he is where he is, is because he is a media darling. I don't think that will carry into the polls however.



Because of these reasons the Democratic nominee (Clinton or Obama) would normally be an underdog in the race for Pres. But the war in Iraq has leveled th field. If the war starts to turn around, like it appears to be, then the both Hillary or Obama are holding the short end of the stick again.

This assumes that the Rep nominee can appear somewhat different than W.



Hillary has done a great job straddling the fence and appearing somewhat tough on the war on terror and yet calling Gen. Petreais a flat out liar to his face satisfy her liberal base. I believe she will be somewhat tough on defense issues. She needs to appear strong to get the male/moderate/conservative vote. She would be better than Bill on defense who abhorred it. The funny thing is that she will get many votes because people will think she will pull out of Iraq, I hate to break it to them but whe will stay in Iraq with controled pull-out just like Bush is doing.


So I see the race at this point being about the war. If the surge continues to work as it appears to be, then Democrats need to find another club to carry.




This post has been edited by Cpt. Snot Rocket: 10/02/07 2:53pm

[Hellfighter]

I take exception to Hellfighter suggesting Obama could beat a Rep. I can't see Obama having enough credibility and experience to beat a Guliani, Thompson, or any of the top Rep. The only reason he is where he is, is because he is a media darling. I don't think that will carry into the polls however.

Hey there- I'm back in for a bit.....
It was no mere speculation on my part about Obama beating a repub opponent as opposed to Shrillary.
The polls in the USA indicate that as a fact. I'm not a fan of Obama -even though he shows he talks the talk, I doubt he can make a good decision when its crunch time.... this after his famous 'let me scratch that [remark]' he made after he first suggested a direct attack into Pakistan would be an option on the table if a certain opportunity arose.
Search the facts out yourself regarding my observation. It points out that the potential voters though not impressed with the dems, are even less impressed by the pool of repub candidates.

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

I take exception to Hellfighter suggesting Obama could beat a Rep. I can't see Obama having enough credibility and experience to beat a Guliani, Thompson, or any of the top Rep. The only reason he is where he is, is because he is a media darling. I don't think that will carry into the polls however.

Hey there- I'm back in for a bit.....
It was no mere speculation on my part about Obama beating a repub opponent as opposed to Shrillary.
The polls in the USA indicate that as a fact. I'm not a fan of Obama -even though he shows he talks the talk, I doubt he can make a good decision when its crunch time.... this after his famous 'let me scratch that [remark]' he made after he first suggested a direct attack into Pakistan would be an option on the table if a certain opportunity arose.
Search the facts out yourself regarding my observation. It points out that the potential voters though not impressed with the dems, are even less impressed by the pool of repub candidates.

LoL. I thought I could lure you out Hellfighter!

The poles you mention are not phrased as Obama running as the Dem. nominee. HUGE difference. I'm right anyway. Even Democrats are not going to vote for OBama. Why would republicans. Watch as Hillary takes the primary. Go Hillary!!!!



The real question is who will she take for a VP. At first glance I'm thinking Bill Richardson. She already has the black vote so Obama is no help there. Edwards does not seem to bridge any gap to the right and his credibility in marginal. Richardson is a respectable guy and has a "likeability" that Hillary does not have. As her well paid adviser, I will tell her to call Richardson in the morning and work a deal.

This post has been edited by Cpt. Snot Rocket: 10/16/07 8:45pm

[Hellfighter]

I take exception to Hellfighter suggesting Obama could beat a Rep. I can't see Obama having enough credibility and experience to beat a Guliani, Thompson, or any of the top Rep. The only reason he is where he is, is because he is a media darling. I don't think that will carry into the polls however.

Hey there- I'm back in for a bit.....
It was no mere speculation on my part about Obama beating a repub opponent as opposed to Shrillary.
The polls in the USA indicate that as a fact. I'm not a fan of Obama -even though he shows he talks the talk, I doubt he can make a good decision when its crunch time.... this after his famous 'let me scratch that [remark]' he made after he first suggested a direct attack into Pakistan would be an option on the table if a certain opportunity arose.
Search the facts out yourself regarding my observation. It points out that the potential voters though not impressed with the dems, are even less impressed by the pool of repub candidates.

LoL. I thought I could lure you out Hellfighter!

The poles you mention are not phrased as Obama running as the Dem. nominee. HUGE difference. I'm right anyway. Even Democrats are not going to vote for OBama. Why would republicans. Watch as Hillary takes the primary. Go Hillary!!!!



The real question is who will she take for a VP. At first glance I'm thinking Bill Richardson. She already has the black vote so Obama is no help there. Edwards does not seem to bridge any gap to the right and his credibility in marginal. Richardson is a respectable guy and has a "likeability" that Hillary does not have. As her well paid adviser, I will tell her to call Richardson in the morning and work a deal.

But nooooo, oh crafty Cpt. Rocket.
Read my posts a bit more to see my point of view.
I said Hillary is likely to take the nomination- I always did say that.
I don't like her entirely but I'd go with her calculating scheming mastery as a general leader in the global arena compared to the other noms.
I'm not pro-Obama- I've always said that.
Here's what I'm saying;
The polls show repubs likely to get pummeled in the election...but,
Here's how things can get interesting;
Polls show if -IF- Obama got the dem. nomination he would indeed beat out repubs and Guiliani [?] by his popularity in general alone compared to the repub opponents - remember most folks in US aren't too happy with repub noms. so far -its not a 50/50 split.
HOWEVER- If Hillary who IS widely popular in the dem party gets the nom. -now looks likely- everything changes; all the repubs despise her and any who chose to shift to dems to vote would rather vote Obama to make sure Shrillary doesn't get her likely elected spot as the dem nom.
Guiliani and Romney are currently declaring Clinton as the nom because they know if she gets the nod, she's in big trouble going against them- by popularity; also she has yet to screw up majorly in her campaign- and most likely she will unless she's really on the ball- then things are not so definate for the dems.
ps.One day you'll have to explain the US fascination with generalised 'voter' categories.
ie, the black vote, the woman vote, the nascar dad vote, the soccermom vote, the cod players vo.... oops.
I see it nowhere else in the Western democracies- regarding politicians looking for blobs of voters based on such stereotyping.
It's interesting but a bit cheesy in my books how the catergorization in the US media is misrepresenting and acceptably endorsed stereotyping- there are in reality gay repubs, women-not-voting hillary voters, conservative blacks.

I hope she'd pick Joe Biden for VP- he's savvy and not phoney.... from what I know.

Well I guess I will just have to throw my Hat in the Ring, KTULU FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!! My credentials:

I was ready to get a Ktulu-Girls [ re; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekSxxlj6rGE] campaign going for you but you avoided taking a position on the Health care debate in that list- yer just like all the other politicians


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 10/17/07 8:16am