| Cero |
10/15/07 7:08pm
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question is not from me, its from my kid. Both of them started sunday school after church and somehow my youngest started saying God made everything. Its not a question of whether you believe that or not, i told my kid he didn't make everything. So he started arguing with me that he did. So, like the genious that i am, i said, fine, then who made you(he started singing AC/DC then,lol), he said, God, i said, no, me and mom did. Then the big question came out, HOW? i just started at him for about 30 seconds and said, you'll find out when you older, go to bed,lol. this just happend about 10 min ago, i thought it was just too funny.
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| Midnight Rambler |
10/16/07 11:20am
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If nothing can or cannot happen with out god allowing it, we have no free will and making decisions would be pointless.
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| Rush |
10/17/07 5:15pm
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If nothing can or cannot happen with out god allowing it, we have no free will and making decisions would be pointless. I agree with the basic premise here, which is why I am not a Calvinist! Calvinism holds to a predetermined election of the saints, which I don't buy. It is actually funny that at the seminary I attend the philosophy students are all Arminians who adhere to libertarian freedom, while most of the theology students hold to Calvinism and compatiblist views of will. Anyway, this is actually a reason I believe in God. Metaphysical naturalism doesn't allow for free will because our bodies, in this view, are highly complicated machines. Our "will" is simply chemical reactions that we have no control over. In fact, it also seems reasonable to me that if we are just complicated machines and our bodies are only developed for survival, then there isn't much good reason to believe that what anyone has to say about anything. We would be unable to verify truths because we can't know if our bodies are actually verifying truth, or what is helpful for survival. This post has been edited by Rush: 10/17/07 5:17pm -------------------- courtesy of harrycaray |
Cero a funny question 10/15/07 7:08pm
Hellfighter Funny and cute - not being a dad myself, I like he... 10/15/07 7:16pm
Cross of Iron I said to my son / daughter to ask their mom......... 10/15/07 7:22pm
steel He was brainwashed behind your back. Give up and ... 10/15/07 7:24pm
Wino Ph.D. How old is he Sam? Depending on his age you may or... 10/15/07 8:16pm
Cero he's only 5, i was going to say go ask your mo... 10/15/07 9:05pm
Wino Ph.D. That's a little young to try and explain the b... 10/15/07 10:00pm
Ci.Ci. Cero,
I hate to bust your bubble, But your son is... 10/15/07 10:07pm
T/A6Pak LOL Cero, now he's going to tell all the other... 10/15/07 10:33pm
*Triggahappy13* it's hard to imagine anything not being create... 10/15/07 11:21pm
Genocide Junkie I find it interesting that some of you akin Christ... 10/15/07 11:53pm
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Cpt. Snot Rocket LOL! Cero! Been down that road 3 times and... 10/16/07 7:46pm
The-Blind-Norwegian :69 10/16/07 2:35am
Cero i didn't think about that, ill have to look fo... 10/16/07 7:44am
Ci.Ci. Hellfighter, You are right on the money. :emoticon... 10/16/07 11:07am
Hellfighter Hellfighter, You are right on the money. :emotico... 10/16/07 2:24pm
Kleerance If nothing can or cannot happen with out god allo... 10/16/07 4:44pm
Genocide Junkie I think you see too much on T.V. that has you brai... 10/16/07 3:10pm
Cero ok, whether you believe in god or not or the way o... 10/16/07 5:38pm
Jesse James Cero,
That's a good one! Once when my dau... 10/16/07 8:32pm
Hellfighter My fave moment was watching a young youngster bein... 10/17/07 8:23am
Cero My fave moment was watching a young youngster bei... 10/17/07 1:02pm
Bargod When I was nine, and the "baby" of the f... 10/17/07 2:20pm
Shred and Burn I would argue that organisms are to well designed ... 10/17/07 6:10pm
Genocide Junkie I have a hard time believing that we came from som... 10/17/07 7:19pm
Cpt. Snot Rocket Agree. The statistical chance of any given number ... 10/17/07 7:49pm
Cero
What was the original post about? LoL
me not ... 10/17/07 10:32pm
Crazy Canuck So maybee we should throw evolution into the discu... 10/17/07 10:49pm
Bargod That's not where I'd go with that discussi... 10/18/07 3:58am![]() ![]() |
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