Supporting the Troops.... the lack thereof, Speaking with forked tongue Options

[Hellfighter]

This one's nauseating;
Regardless of whoever the leader is/party they represent, if they're committed to spending hundreds of billions of dollars in a 'war effort', a large chunk of that should be set aside to fully and unconditionally accomodate the needs of its frontline fighters during and after their service. Where are the neo-cons/Bush admin and their 'support the troops' rhetoric now sticking up for vets on this issue you'll read- disgusting.....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071108/ap_on_...Ys14ZD7TKBH2ocA
Can I suggest you who are able to do so, drop your Governors a line or two on this. It's not right at all.


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 11/08/07 4:51am

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

I'm all for investiogation and getting facts. Your into "wagering" what the problem might be and throwing money at it with out any sense of direction. I completely disagree with that analisys.

I appreciate your discussion about veterans of different wars but PTSD doesn't care what war you served in. Rememeber WWII and Vietnam troops were drafted, recent wars are all volunteer so which group would you expect to have more problems dealing with the war?

Since the USA spends a vast fortune on Defense and actually does something about the villians that walk the earth, why doesn't Canada, Mexico, and nearly every country in Europe and the rest of the world spend some money to take care of OUR vet's. THEY don't have to spend any money on defense because the USA protects THEM all!

"...hundreds of billions of dollars are being thrown around for a grand adventure of a war..."
Ahhh, so here it is. Your obviously using this issue just to beat the 'end the war/Saddam was nice guy' drum so I am not going to discuss this issue further.

Have a good day.

[Hellfighter]

I'm all for investiogation and getting facts. Your into "wagering" what the problem might be and throwing money at it with out any sense of direction. I completely disagree with that analisys.

I appreciate your discussion about veterans of different wars but PTSD doesn't care what war you served in. Rememeber WWII and Vietnam troops were drafted, recent wars are all volunteer so which group would you expect to have more problems dealing with the war?

Since the USA spends a vast fortune on Defense and actually does something about the villians that walk the earth, why doesn't Canada, Mexico, and nearly every country in Europe and the rest of the world spend some money to take care of OUR vet's. THEY don't have to spend any money on defense because the USA protects THEM all!

"...hundreds of billions of dollars are being thrown around for a grand adventure of a war..."
Ahhh, so here it is. Your obviously using this issue just to beat the 'end the war/Saddam was nice guy' drum so I am not going to discuss this issue further.

Have a good day.

What cost in investigation- isn't that the purpose- where is wagering a factor in an investigation- that makes no sense. If a solution or problem can be revealed by an investigation then that sounds priceless to me if it helps find out why that startling statistic of homeless vets is so. Wagering has no bearing in that concept- what is your basis for that- how much is being 'wagered' in such an investigation?

Mr.Rocket get your facts straight... Canada has an army heavily engaged and active in Afghanistan in offensive operations against a restrengthening Taliban foe. Canada's been in the Balkans, the Gulf War, the Korean War and has been in joint patrolling operations/stragies with the USA in the Arctic. Stop misguiding yourself that its just the USA policing the world.
USA knows it can't do everything alone.... look at WW2 - if the Japs didn't propel the USA into the war, Germany would've been firing nukes over the ocean at some point. The last I heard the Brits beat back the German invasion plan in 1940 while standing alone.

You claim/infer the US Force of WW2 were induced by drafts alone- I would argue that point because although isolationist fervour was solid prior to Pearl Harbour, that spun around 180 degrees after. The war effort was by and large volunteer in its comparison to zeal and fighting ability not to mention desire to go to war to beat back the menace at the doorsteps..

You're not helping yourself by basing your arguments on untruths. There are vast numbers of multinational forces operating across the globe.... there are expansive networks of intelligence agents of many nations also at work fighting these 'villains'. So lay off the 'whole world on my shoulders' song please.
The rest of the world is spending money on their own vets and active forces - show me your revealing stats showing which democratic countries are playing lackey and have no budget and no army supposedly since your envisioning nobody else has an army or vets.

What/who is the USA protecting Canada from? Please tell me this phantom message you received that I can relay it to our Prime Minister right away? And precisely how much is Canada spending on defencve- where is this explosive fact you discovered that says Canada is spending nothing on defence???

Where did I say Sadam was a 'nice guy' or even remotely imply it- what's the argument for ending the war have to do with support for Sadam. You're right 'hundreds of billions of dollars is an error - it'll be well over a trillion by the time is all said and done. btw, it's Bush and his admin spending vast amounts into the Defence - last election I heard most Americans wanted out of the war sooner than later. You may delude yourself that 'foreigners' talking anti-Bush equates with anti-American but take a deep breath and read your stats to see 70% of Americans want Bush to end/scale down drastically his grand adventure -ie, enough's enough.

And what's with the '"so there we have it" line' -lol- look back at my threads going way back - I always said why I first was for the war and then made my own assessment on the foolery of 'the grand adventure'- no surprise at all on my basis for the opinions I express.

ps. I'm having a great day and you're flying off on tangeants [ apparently with no valid retorts left to argue correctly -which I'd gladly accept if you could prove such points]




This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 11/17/07 6:49pm